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sanlovesGod

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Im have a boyfriend , we have special Feelings Towards each other . and his heart desires to be A pastor . He has Calling . Then He surrendered me To God :( im kinda sad . i felt like he dosnt love me anymore . but then he told me everything . he said that he wants me To Come to God whenever i have Problems . he wants to be a pastor , He wants to use his teenage life To serve God , and not to enjoy. i use to Tell him all my Problems . i even Forget to Come to The Lord . Then i Feel Relieved when he told me that . we dont see each other anymore . only when sundays . We dont Call or text . sometimes We chat but im sad that it wasnt like Before. there's a question that i keep on asking many times . he told me that , he surrendered me because we cant serve 2 people . Because im his Gf ( its like , he must serve me , as my Boyfriend ) But God keeps on Calling him , and asking that , if he really love God . He must surrender all . Here's my Question , Why Do we need to Surrender ? Are we sure that in the Future that , the person that we surrendered is God's will for us ? And Help me to Answer all my Questions :) THANKS AND GODBLESS !
 
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He is quite foolish to give u up to become a pastor,perhaps u should tell him that Captain William says he should think a lot about this and make the right decision,but u must also support him no matter what,otherwise he doesnt deserve u.Good luck and i hope u 2 live long and happy together.:cool:
 
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Agravesx

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He is quite foolish to give u up to become a pastor,perhaps u should tell him that Captain William says he should think a lot about this and make the right decision,but u must also support him no matter what,otherwise he doesnt deserve u.Good luck and i hope u 2 live long and happy together.:cool:
William, I couldn't disagree more. You see when you serve God you MUST be prepared to give up EVERYTHING for him. All material things, all relationships, and even your life. He is making a smart choice, because Paul does write in 1 Corinthians 7:32-35 that it is better to stay single to focus on pleasing God rather than a wife. So it is better to live without a girlfriend/wife however some do need the wife to help prevent fornication.

However, the only part that bothers me from what he said is that he doesn't want to listen to your problems and that you should just tell your problems to God. Sure, that is important to get comfort from God, but as a pastor you are to comfort the people when they have a problem, no matter who it is. Sometimes they need a good Christian person to talk with for strength. So that part I believe is not a good thing, however his ultimate decision to really stop the relationship with you is a smart one. However I am sure for you it is hard. Just keep your eyes on Jesus, and he will heal any emotional wounds you may have.
 

Snackersmom

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Hey, San....sorry you're hurting right now :(.

You boyfriend probably felt like you were coming to him too much.....he's right that it's best to go to Jesus first with our problems. We are still supposed to encourage one another, but you can definitely over-do it.

Surrendering really is important, even though it's hard. Your bf felt like he needed to give you up to God, so that God can determine what direction your relationship will take.

It's entirely possible that you two will get back together at some point, if so then it will hopefully be after you have learned to rely first on God. Then, you will be spiritually strong enough to help him fulfill his calling, rather than take him away from it. A marriage that is ordained by God is a beautiful thing, and a great blessing to all parties involved :)

But, for now, just focus on your relationship with Jesus, God will take care of everything else. :)
 
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William, I couldn't disagree more. You see when you serve God you MUST be prepared to give up EVERYTHING for him. All material things, all relationships, and even your life. He is making a smart choice, because Paul does write in 1 Corinthians 7:32-35 that it is better to stay single to focus on pleasing God rather than a wife. So it is better to live without a girlfriend/wife however some do need the wife to help prevent fornication.

However, the only part that bothers me from what he said is that he doesn't want to listen to your problems and that you should just tell your problems to God. Sure, that is important to get comfort from God, but as a pastor you are to comfort the people when they have a problem, no matter who it is. Sometimes they need a good Christian person to talk with for strength. So that part I believe is not a good thing, however his ultimate decision to really stop the relationship with you is a smart one. However I am sure for you it is hard. Just keep your eyes on Jesus, and he will heal any emotional wounds you may have.
Every1 deserves to be happy.Some people go through life all alone.Like me,but i dont complain,i just live for jesus,god is his father,I dont like fathers.:cool:
 

lil_christian

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Im have a boyfriend , we have special Feelings Towards each other . and his heart desires to be A pastor . He has Calling . Then He surrendered me To God :( im kinda sad . i felt like he dosnt love me anymore . but then he told me everything . he said that he wants me To Come to God whenever i have Problems . he wants to be a pastor , He wants to use his teenage life To serve God , and not to enjoy. i use to Tell him all my Problems . i even Forget to Come to The Lord . Then i Feel Relieved when he told me that . we dont see each other anymore . only when sundays . We dont Call or text . sometimes We chat but im sad that it wasnt like Before. there's a question that i keep on asking many times . he told me that , he surrendered me because we cant serve 2 people . Because im his Gf ( its like , he must serve me , as my Boyfriend ) But God keeps on Calling him , and asking that , if he really love God . He must surrender all . Here's my Question , Why Do we need to Surrender ? Are we sure that in the Future that , the person that we surrendered is God's will for us ? And Help me to Answer all my Questions :) THANKS AND GODBLESS !
Because Jesus saved us so we could live life and live it abundantly. Can't do that without having a relationship with Him and that does include surrendering stuff we don't wanna surrender. That includes boyfriends or girlfriends (whichever gender you are).

He was right on to surrender you to God. It means that he cares. It means he cares about His relationship with God over you and it means that he cares about you in general so that he won't fall into temptation with you or whatever. It means he's willing to live for God and not for others. Which is something you really need to consider in a guy.

God honors those who fully surrender their lives over to Him.

Either God's Lord of all or not Lord at all. It's a hard truth, but it's the truth. When we ask God into our hearts, we don't ask Him to just be our Savior. We ask Him to be our LORD. And that means giving our life fully to God.

I really hope and pray that you're praying about your relationship.
 
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gardin

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He is quite foolish to give u up to become a pastor,perhaps u should tell him that Captain William says he should think a lot about this and make the right decision,but u must also support him no matter what,otherwise he doesnt deserve u.Good luck and i hope u 2 live long and happy together.:cool:

so you're saying that having a girlfriend is more important than obeying God?

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Agravesx

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Every1 deserves to be happy.Some people go through life all alone.Like me,but i dont complain,i just live for jesus,god is his father,I dont like fathers.:cool:
Yes, they do, and that is what this young man is seeking after, because you will never be truly happy unless you have Christ, and when you follow Christ you must be prepared to give up all the things of this world. When you follow him, you will never have to go through life alone. You will ALWAYS have him there, always with you.
 
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Ugly

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Every1 deserves to be happy.Some people go through life all alone.Like me,but i dont complain,i just live for jesus,god is his father,I dont like fathers.:cool:
The bible does encourage staying single so that you can better serve God. Its no requirement, but it a man cannon serve God fully if he is married and tied down to the concerns of this world with wife and family. Its obvious this man, desiring to be a pastor, knows this scripture, and follows it to heart. I don't think there is wisdom in encouraging people to go against scriptural suggestion and to surrender their lives to God just to pacify a girlfriend or live to some worldly standard of 'happiness'.
 
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oracle2world

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I think he is just breaking off the relationship.
 
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To surrender to God means,to repent and seek His mercy! That is His will first and formost, then follow His son Jesus Christ on the narrow path.

You must make sure you have a saving faith, and tha your young friend, knows the truth, as most churches do not teach anymore, and he must be willing to count the cost to preach it!

Hope this helps, on what a true follower of Christ looks like!


Have you REALLY Come to Christ?
By: Mike DeSario

2Cor13:5 "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Prove yourselves. Do you know that Jesus Christ is in you? Unless indeed you are disqualified."
Many suppose themselves to be 'saved' because they have claimed a few select portions of scripture that contain the word 'believe' and have followed a simple three or four step plan outlined on a Bible Tract. They rest their faith on sound doctrinal truth about the Lord Jesus Christ, proclaim His Deity, Resurrection and Ascension. But their lives are devoid of any evidence of Soul Saving Faith.
Many mistake Self Confidence for Spiritual assurance. It is common among professing Christians to continue in outward rebellion to the Lord Jesus Christ and still claim Him as Savior. The delusion is reinforced by false teachers peddling a Gospel that soothes the conscience but NEVER Purifies the heart.
The Lord Himself confirmed the frightening truth that SOME would possess faith enough to 'Preach', Cast out demons and Perform Miracles, but NOT Faith that SAVES the Soul! Matt7:21-23
This Warning must have been ringing in the ears of the great Apostle when he Challenged us to 'PROVE' our Faith. Who could understand better the Pure Godly Dynamics of Soul Saving Faith, than Paul? He told us time and again throughout the New Testament that the true EVIDENCE of genuine Salvation is a NEW HEART! 2Cor5:17
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW Creation. Old things have passed away, behold ALL things become new." This is NOT an optional feature of the gospel.
The New Birth Transforms the heart and sets you on the path of Righteousness. Eph4:24 Your heart is Purified by Obedience to the Truth! 1Pet1:22 You Walk in Newness of Life by Faith. Rom6:4 Dead to Sin & Self, Alive to God & Truth! Rom6:16-18
By Definitions Faith is Both Substance & Evidence. Heb11:1Therefore when you Believe & Confess, Rom10:9-10 You Follow & Obey. Matt7:13-14
What is the Evidence of Soul Saving Faith?
How then can you KNOW you are in Christ and not Disqualified from as those described in Matt7? It would behoove you to EXAMINE the facts.
If indeed we have escaped the pollutions that are in the world through Lust. 2Pet2:20 And have been Renewed in the knowledge of Christ. Col3:9 And the Flesh has been 'crucified'! Gal5:24
Ought not your CONDUCT be Transformed!?
Thus you have the Dynamic of Soul Saving Faith: Repentance, Self Denial & Faithful Obedience to Christ. Short of that, you have Nothing.
The First Sure Sign of Genuine Salvation is a Genuine Hatred for Sin. Psa97:10, Prv8:13. God has Put in a New Heart & taken away the old. Ezk36:26 The true believer despises Sin in himself and in others, because it dishonors God. Spiritual Warfare is now taking place inside the soul. Gal5:16-17 Without it, NO Salvation has taken place.
Next the Genuine Convert will have a deep desire for the Word of God. 1Thess2:13, 2Tim3:16-17
Nothing satisfies a Christ Centered Life like the Words of Life. His Word is our Armor against the fiery darts of the wicked one. Eph6:16-17 And our Sword to cast down every argument & high thing that tries to exalt itself against the Knowledge of God. 1Cor10:5
The Genuine Believer will set his mind on the Things above. Phil4:8 And Purify his Soul through obedience to the Truth. 1Pet1:22-23
The professing Christian who has no Desire to Study the Word of God has believed in vain.
Third the man who claims to be Born Again will have a New found LOVE for Jesus Christ. 1John4:19 It is a contradiction in terms to say we are Born of God and NOT Keep His Commandants. Love is obedience!
"By this we know that we know Him, If we KEEP His commandants. He who says, I know Him, and keeps NOT His Commandants is a lair and the truth is not in him. 1John2:3-4
Fourth you should expect to have a new found Love for other True Christians. 1John4:20 Your Spirit will bare witness with others Born of God and testify you all belong in the same family. Rom8:16 You will notice a built in sensibility to the people of God and His Love will overflow in your heart. Gal6:10
"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God & Keep His Commandants."1Jh5:3

As Love & Obedience are inseparable Evidence of the New Birth, so Purity of Heart is imparted to every true believer in Christ. "Since you have Purified your souls in OBEYING the truth through the Spirit." 1Pet1:22 This Purity is therefore EVIDENT in your conduct. First your 'Conscience' is cleansed from self-will & self seeking. Next the will is purified from all that is evil and last the understanding is enlightened by the Divine Light, thereby cleansing it from error.
Soul Saving Faith is Always Evident by a Humble Heart that exalts Christ as Supreme Lord, Despises Sin and walks in faithful obedience to the Truth. Faith empties a man of self-conceit, self-confidence and self-righteousness. Christ is all in all. Eph1:23 The Greatest Faith is ALWAYS accompanied by the greatest humility.
Saving faith is rooted in the heart, grows & spreads in all branches of obedience, and is filled with the fruits of righteousness. Phil1:11 Otherwise it's NOT Faith.
Another sure sign of Genuine Salvation is the fervent desire to Pray. Rom5:1, Heb4:16
The young convert has instant access to the throne of Grace and uses it to commune with God. A non-praying Christian is a contradiction in terms. If you are a New Creation in Christ, 2Cor5:17, we will Walk with Him in prayer.
Saving Faith is always accompanied by Spiritual growth. The life of a genuine Christian is not static. As an infant does not remain in infancy forever, so a new convert grows in grace quickly. 1Pet:2:2-3, 2Pet3:18
Growth assures us we belong to Him and keeps us from being blown by every wind of doctrine or the tricky of men who seek to pervert the grace of God into license to sin. Eph4:14-15, 2Pet2:19, Jude4 The young convert must beware least he fall away from Christ into the error of the wicked. 2Pet3:17
Since the REAL possibility exists of 'departing' from the faith, 1Tim1:5-6, the true believer in Christ MUST guard himself from temptation and especially 'sexual immorality!' 1Tim6:11,20-21, 1Cor6:18
Paul warned the 'believers' time and again about the danger of trifling with sin. He told them, "Let no one deceive you with empty words! Those who practice such things will not inheritthe Kingdom of God!"Eph5:5-6
What are the 'things' he said would keep you OUT of the Kingdom? Read them:
"Fornication, uncleanness, covetous, idolatry, filthiness, foolish talking coarse jesting, drunkenness, homosexuality, sorcery, hatred, selfish ambition, murder & heresies."
Eph5:3-6, Gal5:20-21

Those Born Again will have an unshakable Love of the truth. Jn8:32,14:17
In sin we loved darkness and hated light, believed a lie and hated TRUTH. The New Birth is a Total Reversal of this process. Those in Christ reject false doctrine and cast-down all arguments & high things that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing EVERY thought into captivity to the Obedience of Christ! 2Cor10:4-5
If you are still resisting the Truth of Scripture you have NOT been Born Again, you are under conviction for sin.
Saving Faith Works by Love. Gal5:6. It is dynamic not passive. Faith is the principle of life by which the True Christian lives unto God, Stays on the Narrow Pathway, on the highway of holiness and has Victory over the World, the flesh and the devil. True Faith is always rooted in Loving Obedience to Christ and bares the Fruit of righteousness. Rom6:22
You DO NOT possess saving Faith if you are indifferent to the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. If you refuse the Yoke of Obedience, you reject Christ as Lord. And He cannot be Savior if He is NOT first made LORD.Matt11:28
Another sure sign of Saving Faith is your 'worldview' will be transformed. You will no longer judge matters based solely on your understanding of right & wrong. Your reasoning will be based on God's Truth as revealed in His Word. 2Cor5:17 You will begin to compare 'Spiritual' things with 'Spiritual' things, because you are 'Taught' by the Spirit of God. 1Cor2:12-15 Your moral view of the world will have a brand new perspective and the 'hidden' things will come to light in your heart. 1Cor4:5
"He who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by on one." 1Cor2:15

In your heart will be the Joyous song of Salvation. Without Joy, WHERE is freedom from sin!? Gal5:22 The new convert will Praise God for deliverance from the corrupting influence of sin. 2Pet1:4 His heart will have a deep felt appreciation for being released from bondage. "Where the Spirit of Lord is there is Liberty!" 2Cor3:17
To the true believer that Liberty is NEVER License! Rom6:15
The Condition of this saving faith remains. GOD IS NOT MOCKED! Those who sow to please the Spirit, will of the Spirit reap life everlasting. But those who sow to please the flesh will of the flesh reap corruption. Gal6:7-8
So DO NOT grow weary in well doing for the Lord, for in due season you shall reap IF you do not give up! Gal6:9
His Grace is sufficient for you "If indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast and are NOT moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I Paul, became a minister." Col1:23
Another Great Joys the New Believer will experience is anxiously expecting the Return of the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom8:23-25, 2Tim4:8 What more glorious expectation does the Child of God have then to SEE Jesus Face to Face! 1Cor13:9-12
So keep your lamp burning at all times and watch. Be prepared for His return! Don't be caught unaware like the five foolish virgins who allowed their lamps to run out of oil. Matt25 You have the 'lamp' of His love burning inside you. But you must Abide in his Truth to keep it burning until the end.

The Real possibility of 'falling away' made the Apostle Peter proclaim,
"MAKE YOUR CALLING & ELECTION SURE!" 2Pet1:10 "For IF you do these things, you will NEVER stumble and fall down!"
How well he knew what it meant to 'deny' his Lord. Matt27:69-75 And how fatally serious that denial was to his soul, unless he repented. Matt10:32-33
"So Examine Yourself and Prove you are in the Faith!" Said Paul 2Cor13:5
"For you have become Partakers of Christ IF you hold the beginning of your confidence steadfast to the end!" Heb3:14

Have you indeed COME to Christ?
What Evidence can you show forth that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Does your daily life show NO respect for His Godly example? Do you Love His Truth, Seek His Word, Hate your sin and long for His Purity? Is the Divine Nature of God at work in your soul delivering you from the corruption that is in the world through lust? If none of these are present within your heart you either 'Believed' in Vain', or 'Departed' from the faith.

The New Birth is a Miracle of God's Grace that Transforms the heart and brings YOU into compliance with His commandants. It does not happen by repeating a few words or following a formula outlined in a tract. That's why Jesus said the WAY is NARROW and FEW there be that find it. SO STRIVE to enter, for many will try and not be able. Matt7:13-14, Luke13:24
I know this goes against the modern grain. But Truth usually does. Salvation is Total transformation of the human soul and will effect 100% of your life. If it doesn't WHO are you trying to kid? The scripture says you can be 'self deceived', James 1:22
The Way of God's Salvation is almost entirely unknown among today's evangelists. The true nature of Soul Saving Faith has been misrepresented and therefore misunderstood by multitudes of 'church' goers. The Gospel that is now being proclaimed far and wide across our great land is sadly deficient of the Divine Power to Save the Soul! It is a gospel that teaches men & women they can SIN their way into the Kingdom. NOTHING could be further from the truth.
People are told they posses the imputed righteousness of Christ when they have not ONE Shred of Obedience apparent in their lives!. The delusion is sealed by pundits of OSAS and thousands are hastening to hell as fast as time will take them convinced they are right!
I beseech you therefore to turn from your 'idols', forsake your sin and surrender your life to Christ. Seek Him until you find REAL assurance in His Soul Saving faith.
"He is the Author of Eternal Salvation to all those who OBEY Him." Heb5:9
"IF you LOVE ME, KEEP My Commandants!" John14:15
"His Name shall be called JESUS and He will Save His people FROM their sins." Matt1:21 Not IN them!
 
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sanlovesGod

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GUYS , I dont think he's breaking off the relationship . as what i saw after we break up . he has many opportunities that God has given to him . and me too . He Became a Youth Leader in their Christian Organization . while i have my own Cellgroup and im now Part Of our Worship team as Backup singer . Im so happy that God has Given us these Opportunities . yeah i miss him . but everyday . when i have my Daily Devotion . i pray to God that Someday i want him to be my Future . but i still Depend on God's Will For me.
 
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sanlovesGod

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To surrender to God means,to repent and seek His mercy! That is His will first and formost, then follow His son Jesus Christ on the narrow path.

You must make sure you have a saving faith, and tha your young friend, knows the truth, as most churches do not teach anymore, and he must be willing to count the cost to preach it!

Hope this helps, on what a true follower of Christ looks like!


Have you REALLY Come to Christ?
By: Mike DeSario

2Cor13:5 "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Prove yourselves. Do you know that Jesus Christ is in you? Unless indeed you are disqualified."
Many suppose themselves to be 'saved' because they have claimed a few select portions of scripture that contain the word 'believe' and have followed a simple three or four step plan outlined on a Bible Tract. They rest their faith on sound doctrinal truth about the Lord Jesus Christ, proclaim His Deity, Resurrection and Ascension. But their lives are devoid of any evidence of Soul Saving Faith.
Many mistake Self Confidence for Spiritual assurance. It is common among professing Christians to continue in outward rebellion to the Lord Jesus Christ and still claim Him as Savior. The delusion is reinforced by false teachers peddling a Gospel that soothes the conscience but NEVER Purifies the heart.
The Lord Himself confirmed the frightening truth that SOME would possess faith enough to 'Preach', Cast out demons and Perform Miracles, but NOT Faith that SAVES the Soul! Matt7:21-23
This Warning must have been ringing in the ears of the great Apostle when he Challenged us to 'PROVE' our Faith. Who could understand better the Pure Godly Dynamics of Soul Saving Faith, than Paul? He told us time and again throughout the New Testament that the true EVIDENCE of genuine Salvation is a NEW HEART! 2Cor5:17
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW Creation. Old things have passed away, behold ALL things become new." This is NOT an optional feature of the gospel.
The New Birth Transforms the heart and sets you on the path of Righteousness. Eph4:24 Your heart is Purified by Obedience to the Truth! 1Pet1:22 You Walk in Newness of Life by Faith. Rom6:4 Dead to Sin & Self, Alive to God & Truth! Rom6:16-18
By Definitions Faith is Both Substance & Evidence. Heb11:1Therefore when you Believe & Confess, Rom10:9-10 You Follow & Obey. Matt7:13-14
What is the Evidence of Soul Saving Faith?
How then can you KNOW you are in Christ and not Disqualified from as those described in Matt7? It would behoove you to EXAMINE the facts.
If indeed we have escaped the pollutions that are in the world through Lust. 2Pet2:20 And have been Renewed in the knowledge of Christ. Col3:9 And the Flesh has been 'crucified'! Gal5:24
Ought not your CONDUCT be Transformed!?
Thus you have the Dynamic of Soul Saving Faith: Repentance, Self Denial & Faithful Obedience to Christ. Short of that, you have Nothing.
The First Sure Sign of Genuine Salvation is a Genuine Hatred for Sin. Psa97:10, Prv8:13. God has Put in a New Heart & taken away the old. Ezk36:26 The true believer despises Sin in himself and in others, because it dishonors God. Spiritual Warfare is now taking place inside the soul. Gal5:16-17 Without it, NO Salvation has taken place.
Next the Genuine Convert will have a deep desire for the Word of God. 1Thess2:13, 2Tim3:16-17
Nothing satisfies a Christ Centered Life like the Words of Life. His Word is our Armor against the fiery darts of the wicked one. Eph6:16-17 And our Sword to cast down every argument & high thing that tries to exalt itself against the Knowledge of God. 1Cor10:5
The Genuine Believer will set his mind on the Things above. Phil4:8 And Purify his Soul through obedience to the Truth. 1Pet1:22-23
The professing Christian who has no Desire to Study the Word of God has believed in vain.
Third the man who claims to be Born Again will have a New found LOVE for Jesus Christ. 1John4:19 It is a contradiction in terms to say we are Born of God and NOT Keep His Commandants. Love is obedience!
"By this we know that we know Him, If we KEEP His commandants. He who says, I know Him, and keeps NOT His Commandants is a lair and the truth is not in him. 1John2:3-4
Fourth you should expect to have a new found Love for other True Christians. 1John4:20 Your Spirit will bare witness with others Born of God and testify you all belong in the same family. Rom8:16 You will notice a built in sensibility to the people of God and His Love will overflow in your heart. Gal6:10
"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God & Keep His Commandants."1Jh5:3

As Love & Obedience are inseparable Evidence of the New Birth, so Purity of Heart is imparted to every true believer in Christ. "Since you have Purified your souls in OBEYING the truth through the Spirit." 1Pet1:22 This Purity is therefore EVIDENT in your conduct. First your 'Conscience' is cleansed from self-will & self seeking. Next the will is purified from all that is evil and last the understanding is enlightened by the Divine Light, thereby cleansing it from error.
Soul Saving Faith is Always Evident by a Humble Heart that exalts Christ as Supreme Lord, Despises Sin and walks in faithful obedience to the Truth. Faith empties a man of self-conceit, self-confidence and self-righteousness. Christ is all in all. Eph1:23 The Greatest Faith is ALWAYS accompanied by the greatest humility.
Saving faith is rooted in the heart, grows & spreads in all branches of obedience, and is filled with the fruits of righteousness. Phil1:11 Otherwise it's NOT Faith.
Another sure sign of Genuine Salvation is the fervent desire to Pray. Rom5:1, Heb4:16
The young convert has instant access to the throne of Grace and uses it to commune with God. A non-praying Christian is a contradiction in terms. If you are a New Creation in Christ, 2Cor5:17, we will Walk with Him in prayer.
Saving Faith is always accompanied by Spiritual growth. The life of a genuine Christian is not static. As an infant does not remain in infancy forever, so a new convert grows in grace quickly. 1Pet:2:2-3, 2Pet3:18
Growth assures us we belong to Him and keeps us from being blown by every wind of doctrine or the tricky of men who seek to pervert the grace of God into license to sin. Eph4:14-15, 2Pet2:19, Jude4 The young convert must beware least he fall away from Christ into the error of the wicked. 2Pet3:17
Since the REAL possibility exists of 'departing' from the faith, 1Tim1:5-6, the true believer in Christ MUST guard himself from temptation and especially 'sexual immorality!' 1Tim6:11,20-21, 1Cor6:18
Paul warned the 'believers' time and again about the danger of trifling with sin. He told them, "Let no one deceive you with empty words! Those who practice such things will not inheritthe Kingdom of God!"Eph5:5-6
What are the 'things' he said would keep you OUT of the Kingdom? Read them:
"Fornication, uncleanness, covetous, idolatry, filthiness, foolish talking coarse jesting, drunkenness, homosexuality, sorcery, hatred, selfish ambition, murder & heresies."
Eph5:3-6, Gal5:20-21

Those Born Again will have an unshakable Love of the truth. Jn8:32,14:17
In sin we loved darkness and hated light, believed a lie and hated TRUTH. The New Birth is a Total Reversal of this process. Those in Christ reject false doctrine and cast-down all arguments & high things that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing EVERY thought into captivity to the Obedience of Christ! 2Cor10:4-5
If you are still resisting the Truth of Scripture you have NOT been Born Again, you are under conviction for sin.
Saving Faith Works by Love. Gal5:6. It is dynamic not passive. Faith is the principle of life by which the True Christian lives unto God, Stays on the Narrow Pathway, on the highway of holiness and has Victory over the World, the flesh and the devil. True Faith is always rooted in Loving Obedience to Christ and bares the Fruit of righteousness. Rom6:22
You DO NOT possess saving Faith if you are indifferent to the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. If you refuse the Yoke of Obedience, you reject Christ as Lord. And He cannot be Savior if He is NOT first made LORD.Matt11:28
Another sure sign of Saving Faith is your 'worldview' will be transformed. You will no longer judge matters based solely on your understanding of right & wrong. Your reasoning will be based on God's Truth as revealed in His Word. 2Cor5:17 You will begin to compare 'Spiritual' things with 'Spiritual' things, because you are 'Taught' by the Spirit of God. 1Cor2:12-15 Your moral view of the world will have a brand new perspective and the 'hidden' things will come to light in your heart. 1Cor4:5
"He who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by on one." 1Cor2:15

In your heart will be the Joyous song of Salvation. Without Joy, WHERE is freedom from sin!? Gal5:22 The new convert will Praise God for deliverance from the corrupting influence of sin. 2Pet1:4 His heart will have a deep felt appreciation for being released from bondage. "Where the Spirit of Lord is there is Liberty!" 2Cor3:17
To the true believer that Liberty is NEVER License! Rom6:15
The Condition of this saving faith remains. GOD IS NOT MOCKED! Those who sow to please the Spirit, will of the Spirit reap life everlasting. But those who sow to please the flesh will of the flesh reap corruption. Gal6:7-8
So DO NOT grow weary in well doing for the Lord, for in due season you shall reap IF you do not give up! Gal6:9
His Grace is sufficient for you "If indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast and are NOT moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I Paul, became a minister." Col1:23
Another Great Joys the New Believer will experience is anxiously expecting the Return of the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom8:23-25, 2Tim4:8 What more glorious expectation does the Child of God have then to SEE Jesus Face to Face! 1Cor13:9-12
So keep your lamp burning at all times and watch. Be prepared for His return! Don't be caught unaware like the five foolish virgins who allowed their lamps to run out of oil. Matt25 You have the 'lamp' of His love burning inside you. But you must Abide in his Truth to keep it burning until the end.

The Real possibility of 'falling away' made the Apostle Peter proclaim,
"MAKE YOUR CALLING & ELECTION SURE!" 2Pet1:10 "For IF you do these things, you will NEVER stumble and fall down!"
How well he knew what it meant to 'deny' his Lord. Matt27:69-75 And how fatally serious that denial was to his soul, unless he repented. Matt10:32-33
"So Examine Yourself and Prove you are in the Faith!" Said Paul 2Cor13:5
"For you have become Partakers of Christ IF you hold the beginning of your confidence steadfast to the end!" Heb3:14

Have you indeed COME to Christ?
What Evidence can you show forth that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Does your daily life show NO respect for His Godly example? Do you Love His Truth, Seek His Word, Hate your sin and long for His Purity? Is the Divine Nature of God at work in your soul delivering you from the corruption that is in the world through lust? If none of these are present within your heart you either 'Believed' in Vain', or 'Departed' from the faith.

The New Birth is a Miracle of God's Grace that Transforms the heart and brings YOU into compliance with His commandants. It does not happen by repeating a few words or following a formula outlined in a tract. That's why Jesus said the WAY is NARROW and FEW there be that find it. SO STRIVE to enter, for many will try and not be able. Matt7:13-14, Luke13:24
I know this goes against the modern grain. But Truth usually does. Salvation is Total transformation of the human soul and will effect 100% of your life. If it doesn't WHO are you trying to kid? The scripture says you can be 'self deceived', James 1:22
The Way of God's Salvation is almost entirely unknown among today's evangelists. The true nature of Soul Saving Faith has been misrepresented and therefore misunderstood by multitudes of 'church' goers. The Gospel that is now being proclaimed far and wide across our great land is sadly deficient of the Divine Power to Save the Soul! It is a gospel that teaches men & women they can SIN their way into the Kingdom. NOTHING could be further from the truth.
People are told they posses the imputed righteousness of Christ when they have not ONE Shred of Obedience apparent in their lives!. The delusion is sealed by pundits of OSAS and thousands are hastening to hell as fast as time will take them convinced they are right!
I beseech you therefore to turn from your 'idols', forsake your sin and surrender your life to Christ. Seek Him until you find REAL assurance in His Soul Saving faith.
"He is the Author of Eternal Salvation to all those who OBEY Him." Heb5:9
"IF you LOVE ME, KEEP My Commandants!" John14:15
"His Name shall be called JESUS and He will Save His people FROM their sins." Matt1:21 Not IN them!
Thank you so Much , It helps a Lot . Godbless you !
 
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sanlovesGod

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no , im not saying that Having a girlfriend is more important than obeying God . its just that , were only Teenager . and i didnt know about what God wants him to do . But then now i knew that we must Follow what God wants us to do , and that is To Surrender all for him and Serve him First :)
 
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Colt

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You can be a preaching dude and have a girl. Sounds like he just wanted an excuse to drift.
 
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Ugly

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You can be a preaching dude and have a girl. Sounds like he just wanted an excuse to drift.
You can do both, in fact, at least in America, its hard to be hired as a pastor if you Aren't married. But to say he just wants to 'drift' is pure speculation that has no real foundation. You don't know his true intentions or heart and its not a truly solid answer. Perhaps, as stated in other posts already, he understands the biblical encouragement to stay single to better serve God.
 
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You can do both, in fact, at least in America, its hard to be hired as a pastor if you Aren't married. But to say he just wants to 'drift' is pure speculation that has no real foundation. You don't know his true intentions or heart and its not a truly solid answer. Perhaps, as stated in other posts already, he understands the biblical encouragement to stay single to better serve God.
Yeah but you know , in our country . at the age of 16 boys go to Biblical School . School for pastors . In our Country , It is somehow required to attend and study at the Bible School . if you have calling to be a pastor. an dnow , he's studying there :)
 
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gardin

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i cant believe some of you think this guy is using this as an excuse. If you don't know how it feels like when God is telling you to sacrifice things for Him, you either must have a perfect life and you have nothing that God would want you to let go of, or He hasn't start working in you.
This is just what God does.. if there is something in your life that isn't pleasing to Him or is distracting you and getting in the way of His plan for you, He will tell you to let it go. If you do not He will start pressing you, because He doesn't want us to hold on to our sins and the things that have bad effect on us. And maybe this girl is having very bad effect on this boy, what do we know?

God told me to leave my husband (before we got married), it was one of the hardest things i've ever had to do and it took me 2 years to finally obey God. I just did not want to leave him because I didn't know if God would let us be together again. Afterward I realized that God just wanted us to break up because we were distracting each other from Him and He needed to work on us separately.
But we need to be willing to sacrifice everything for God.
 
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heirofChrist

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Well its hard to tell. As i recall Jesus came here to serve people he showed everyone the standards of true living, while serving the Father in doing his will. So im not sure if him saying not serving you is right... not in a sense of serving you like another master. But iron sharpens iron so ppl should provide counseling and if you have problems yes you should run to Christ but im not sure if he is exactly handling this right. Maybe he feels like you're too clingy to him and maybe God is pushing him away because you are worried about him more than God himself. When you an a partner get married you become one in the flesh under God. In saying that you need to ask your self are you truly seeking God? If you are truly saved and he is i dont see why Christ wouldnt allow you to be together. His ways are better so you need to be calling on God
 
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The OP hasn't logged in since September. This thread is about 6 months old.