Casting Out Sickness | Sickness and Demons

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hislastwalk

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So me and my aunt were sitting here in her living room, talking about Andrew Wommack's "Speak to the Problem" sermon, and God like literally spoke to me, and I just wanted to share what He told me.

God said, "The same way you would talk, and command a demon to leave, is the same exact way you should command sickness to leave."

See, the same exact power that rose CHRIST from the dead, lives inside of us!!! That's AMAZING, although many Christians don't really understand what it means... I found that when many of us pray, we ask God to heal, and we beg him. Why ask for something that's already been paid for? Recently, I have been doing some street ministry, and God's been leading me into healing. I've seen God heal my dog from worms, completely.

I knew she had worms, and we've been giving her medicine, but it just never, ever healed her... she kept getting her worms. I got tired of it, and last night I held her, and lay my hands on her stomach. I commanded the worms to die, and disappear. INSTANTLY I felt her stomach shrinking, it was amazing.

Today my aunt told me she had something wrong with her arm, I commanded it to leave in Jesus name, and it left.

You will know them by the fruits they bear.

I just find it odd that so many Christians beg for healing, when God says he gave us authority and power through Christ Jesus.

Think about it..

-Kyle
 
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Ugly

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2 Corinthians 12

I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
 
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hislastwalk

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Ugly said:
2 Corinthians 12

I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
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and? How can you use this verse if you don't even know what his thorn was?

and for the record, God gave him grace.. and grace is undeserved favor.. so we know that it couldn't have had anything to do with sickness.
 
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hislastwalk

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Wait, let me backtrack here...

Paul asked the Lord to remove persecution from him, not sickness, and the Lord told him His grace was sufficient. The only thing we are not redeemed from is persecution.
 
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hislastwalk

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I wonder how anyone can say it's sickness when it says a MESSENGER of Satan.
 
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Crossfire

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hislastwalk said:
I wonder how anyone can say it's sickness when it says a MESSENGER of Satan.
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It is a shared belief among Cessationists that Paul had some sort of eye disease. Unfortunately for them there is absolutely no biblical or historical evidence to support such a claim.

Anyways, I absolutely believe in healing. We see it happen all the time at my church. And yes, you can rebuke sickness in the name of the Lord just as you would a demon. However, to operate in the gift of healing requires real faith and not pseudo-faith (mere mental ascent) that is being taught in many churches today.

If by chance you're looking for literature on the subject, I suggest 'Christ the Healer' by F.F. Bosworth and anything from John G. Lake. Both men had incredible healing ministries in the early 20th century.
 
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hislastwalk

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Crossfire said:
It is a shared belief among Cessationists that Paul had some sort of eye disease. Unfortunately for them there is absolutely no biblical or historical evidence to support such a claim.

Anyways, I absolutely believe in healing. We see it happen all the time at my church. And yes, you can rebuke sickness in the name of the Lord just as you would a demon. However, to operate in the gift of healing requires real faith and not pseudo-faith (mere mental ascent) that is being taught in many churches today.

If by chance you're looking for literature on the subject, I suggest 'Christ the Healer' by F.F. Bosworth and anything from John G. Lake. Both men had incredible healing ministries in the early 20th century.
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I agree, and well it's also up to the persons faith you're attempting to heal in Jesus name.
 
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kayem77

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The Lord can indeed heal a person if he wants to, however be careful not to own the healing, the Lord is the one who does it. I'm not saying you think the power comes from you, rather I'm saying that sometimes God decides not to heal, I've heard of testimonies of people gettin blessed through a sickness or people gettin saved AFTER being sick :). When people focus too much on physical healing instead of spiritual healing, there's a problem. People become too worried to the point where they think their sins are the ones causing the illness, thus distorting the message of the gospel changing it to one who promises a ''heavenly-earthly'' life.

We will all eventully die from some illness, because one does not simply die of being old, the fact is that we die of some illness as we get old...so be careful with believing that Jesus came to heal us physically, because the point of the cross was to wash us from our sins. That being said, I don't doubt the Lord can heal people, so praise the Lord when he indeed does it :).
 
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hislastwalk

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God never decides to not heal. Just bc something bad is caused, doesn't mean it is God's will.

If God causes/allows sickness but Jesus is the healer then that puts the trinity at work against each other.

& the only reason I can heal people is because the same power that raised Christ from the dead lives inside of me.
 
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hislastwalk

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For the record.
I'm not gonna die from sickness. God's already told me that. :)
 
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hislastwalk

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People don't like it when you put the responsability to go heal the sick on us rather than on God because it takes away all the excuses. We got to realize, he's done his part. He COMMANDED us to go heal the sick..
 
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hislastwalk

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kayem77 said:
I've heard of testimonies of people gettin blessed through a sickness or people gettin saved AFTER being sick :). .
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Sorry, I was typing the other stuff on my phone, and I'm on my laptop now..

So.. I don't deny that they got saved, but God did not cause/allow the sickness. God can take a bad situation and turn it into something good, but sickness is sickness, and can, and if I ever meet someone sick, it WILL be taken care of... I made that promise to God. Now, will people turn me away? Yes. Because it's according to their faith, not mine. Can God work through prayer? Yes. But Jesus very clearly commanded us to go heal the sick.

"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Mark 16:17-18

The greek word for "believe" means obey. Those who obey.. WHEREVER the apostles went, there were ALWAYS signs that followed, because the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk, but of POWER.
 
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mmlj29

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While I do believe in miraculous healings and the power of faith, I do not believe healings are guaranteed. I have seen people with seemingly all the faith in the world not be healed, and I have seen people with the bare minimum faith be healed. Though we dont know exactly what the thorn in Pauls side was, we do know that he asked for something three times and did not receive it.

Healings cannot be guaranteed, why? Because death is guaranteed in life....you cant have guarantees on both. We will all be whole in heaven, we can guarantee that.

I think its wrong to put a heavy trip on someone by making them think that the only reason they are not healed is because they dont have enough faith, or there is some sort of sin in there life. That sounds a lot like Jobs friends. Sometimes that may be the case, but surely not all the time.
 
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hislastwalk

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mmlj29 said:
While I do believe in miraculous healings and the power of faith, I do not believe healings are guaranteed. I have seen people with seemingly all the faith in the world not be healed, and I have seen people with the bare minimum faith be healed. Though we dont know exactly what the thorn in Pauls side was, we do know that he asked for something three times and did not receive it.

Healings cannot be guaranteed, why? Because death is guaranteed in life....you cant have guarantees on both. We will all be whole in heaven, we can guarantee that.

I think its wrong to put a heavy trip on someone by making them think that the only reason they are not healed is because they dont have enough faith, or there is some sort of sin in there life. That sounds a lot like Jobs friends. Sometimes that may be the case, but surely not all the time.
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but that's what it is.. faith.
I know people in wheel chairs who haven't been healed, and they're not afraid to admit they haven't been healed because they haven't had faith. I'm not saying that's a sin.. but it's what God wants, and it upsets him to know his people are getting sick. /:
 
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hislastwalk

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and we know his thorn wasn't sickness. In the verses he clearly says MESSENGER OF SATAN.. :p
 
Nattmaran

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When I am sick I go to the Doctor.

But I do pray for my friends that are sick and for my family. I do not think that God will heal them, 'caus thats not the way of life, everything earthly comes to an end, but to streangthen their souls and lift their spirits so that they themselves can overcome their sickness.

As soon people say that they have the power to heal I am sceptical... Diseases go away natural as well. But of course... if you can make a lame man walk, a dead person be ressurected then I'll truly belive that the power of christ resides inside you. For now I only think it is your delusions or ego.

Pray to Jesus to strengthen the soul for you and your loved ones.
 
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hislastwalk

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Nattmaran said:
When I am sick I go to the Doctor.

But I do pray for my friends that are sick and for my family. I do not think that God will heal them, 'caus thats not the way of life, everything earthly comes to an end, but to streangthen their souls and lift their spirits so that they themselves can overcome their sickness.

As soon people say that they have the power to heal I am sceptical... Diseases go away natural as well. But of course... if you can make a lame man walk, a dead person be ressurected then I'll truly belive that the power of christ resides inside you. For now I only think it is your delusions or ego.

Pray to Jesus to strengthen the soul for you and your loved ones.
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We don't live by what we see or feel. We live by faith, and spirit.
 
Nattmaran

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hislastwalk said:
We don't live by what we see or feel. We live by faith, and spirit.
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Yes we do... if we don't eat we die, if we get sick and don't take our medicine we might do that as well.

You do not live in faith alone.
 
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hislastwalk

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Nattmaran said:
Yes we do... if we don't eat we die, if we get sick and don't take our medicine we might do that as well.

You do not live in faith alone.
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Yes, we're suppose to.
If I get sick I have Jesus.
Would youb like the verse that mentions the same power living inside of us?
 
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lon

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James 2:18, "Show me your faith apart from your works and I by my works will show you my faith." They go hand in hand. The more we trust God, the more we do in His name. The more we do in His name, the more we trust God. Each time our faith increases we become bolder and can do more in His name. It's a beautiful cycle. Each of us is in a diffeent place with the Lord, just like when Jesus was on earth. He had disciples who were close to Him and He had other followers on the periphery and others that were somewhere in between. There were times when the disciples were able to cast out demons and sickness and there were times when they were not able to. Jesus HImself could not perform many miracles in His hometown because of unbelief. Our faith in CHrist brings us salvation and deliverance only when we believe it. It's always there, we just have to believe it. Our faith in Christ brings us healing. It's always there, we just have to believe it. However, because we don't see many miracles today and because there is so much confusion in the church, we shouldn't be surprised that people aren't getting healed regularly. If we don't have unshakeable faith in basic teachings that clearly state which things are sin and which things are holy, it's to be expected that things like healing could get lost in the mix. We all just have to keep praying for God's mercy and ask for His guidance to lead our lives.
 
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