Christianity vs Science.(Creation)

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McFluffin

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This is a good posting. One must also think, If God does not exist then objective moral values do not exist. Where would they come from if there wasn't a God? Also, for apes to evolve into humans would take so much fine tuning, if you will, and mutating that the odds of that even happening would be so large that to call the number astronomical would be a huge understatement. Also, if it were to happen the sun would burn up and cease to exist before it was ever finished. All that in itself to even happen would take a MIRACLE. Thus giving proof that there is indeed a GOD!! One final thing to add to all that is if you look at the fine tuning of all the universe you can see that there's no way possible for everything to be and stay the way that it is without some kind of greater being/mind to make it that way. There are many other things that point towards the existence of God but we can just leave it at that. I think if you truly seek God with an open heart and open mind you'll find HIM!
 
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YoungServant

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i think we are focusing here to much on science if you're a christian the bible should be first and then science, we don't support what the bible say with science, we support what science say with the bible, if science say something that contradicts the bible then we should dismiss it as being true if we do accept it then we cannot say we believe in God if we don't believe in the bible
such is the case with evolution. the bible does not support evolution, it did not say that the earth was created with a big bang, it said GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH and explained how God created heavens and the earth by simply the word of his mouth and there's nowhere in the bible where God said ' let there be a big bang and let life be created from that big bang' no he said let there be and there was
i even question the existence of dinosaurs because where in the bible does the age of dinosaurs fit?
 
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jimmydiggs

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YoungServant said:
i even question the existence of dinosaurs because where in the bible does the age of dinosaurs fit?
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This might be a good start.

Job 40 said:
15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. 24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
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YoungServant

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well if it did exist in what point of time was it there, before the world was created or after, if it was created before then well God did not create the world after all if it was after wouldn't such an animal be extremely dangerous, and there's also the whole story of how they became extinct.......
 
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jimmydiggs

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YoungServant said:
well if it did exist in what point of time was it there, before the world was created or after,
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After.

if it was created before then well God did not create the world after all if it was after wouldn't such an animal be extremely dangerous, and there's also the whole story of how they became extinct.......
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Yes, the were dangerous. I suspect extinction came by way of flood, climate change, or natural means.
 
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kev360

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PinkyIsMe said:
I hate how christians argue against evolution, and yet they don't even bother reading up on the subject. Now please before i begin, understand i am not here to offend anyone. Nor do i wish to disprove god. However, i just want to set the record straight.

1: The belief is not that we evolved FROM apes. Its that we have a common ancestor, from which both our species evolved.
2: If evolution is true, then its a process that took bilions and billions of years from the time the earth was formed to now, for us to to have evolved. In the next 1000 years, we may see minor changes in apes, but unless something forces a certain genetic structure to become more dominant in their species, then chances are no great changers will happen. Even if apes are undergoing an evolutionary change right now, it takes generations for this to happen.
3: macro evolution and micro evolution are simply parts of the same mechanism. One is simply over a longer period of time. Humans are due for another evolutionary change in about 50 000 years, although this may be hampered by the development of modern society.

As i said, im just pointing out some errors in how you perceive an evolutionist viewpoint.
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^^this. haha at least the first two points, beyond argument. honestly, all these misconceptions are getting embarrassing.
 
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YoungServant

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jimmydiggs said:
After.


Yes, the were dangerous. I suspect extinction came by way of flood, climate change, or natural means.
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well if that's how it became extinct, wouldn't the human race be annihilated as well?
 
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YoungServant

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haha

i'll check it out
 
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