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You know what? This statement here PROVES you love the world MORE than you love JESUS. You keep spouting off about how unhappy you are that He's doing nothing for you. Why should he?!! You say you'd rather have money than grace, and you turn Jesus in for $2 million. YOU ARE A JUDAS!! God helps those, WHO HELP THEMSELVES to help Him. All you do is pass and moan and beech at how miserable you are. You definitely are NOT a christian. No REAL christian would turn Jesus in for millions of dollars. You don't have a job? Get off your butt and go look for one. As immature as you act here, you DON'T need a girlfriend. Sraighten out your attitude, get this huge ego chip off your shoulder, and start living for God. Maybe then, he WILL help you. But you have to be proactive in bettering your life, God ain't gonna do it ALL for you.. smh
And this is exactly why you're very likely to burn in hell for eternity. Money doesn't buy you love. It doesn't buy you happiness. Once it's gone, you're left with nothing. NOTHING. Jesus CAN give you everlasting love and happiness. Even if you have nothing, Jesus' love is ALWAYS there..think about that, grow up and change your attitude before it's too late..
If only you knew that it was His grace and love behind the accumulation of wealth, for the purpose of blessing others and spreading His Kingdom purposes. Give and you shall receive, behind that giving is His love for man and through us we are honored to be those vessels that are the avenue of His providence. How can a person be opposed to His grace and love when that is at the core of His providence? This is like saying you wish to breath without air, if you want godly wealth it will include His grace and love.
There are many stories of rich men committing suicide because they felt empty. Why? For the very reason that they did not have God's grace and love. That was the void in their soul. They didn't have Jesus. You could have all the money in the world and yet feel empty, it is not the true source of your joy. You see, there were men who were to get a billion dollars and before it happened the Lord asked them, "What need would you have of me?" They were silent and couldn't answer. Can you answer that question? Here is a hint, relationship. I can have all the riches in the world and it wouldn't alienate me from God. Why? It is because I know the Source of my wealth and riches and I honor Him in that area.
Funrider, your mindset needs to expand. Your current idea of wealth is at odds with your relationship with God. If you would forsake Him for money, then you have not realized who He is. He is your provider, and He is the source of wealth and riches. Remember Ecclesiastes 5:19? It is a gift of God. A gift? Sounds like grace and love to me. Your perception of God should evolve into a place that praises Him for His providence, He is the source. How hard a man will strive for riches when he could easily rest in God's providence. Trust is key.
There are many stories of rich men committing suicide because they felt empty. Why? For the very reason that they did not have God's grace and love. That was the void in their soul. They didn't have Jesus. You could have all the money in the world and yet feel empty, it is not the true source of your joy. You see, there were men who were to get a billion dollars and before it happened the Lord asked them, "What need would you have of me?" They were silent and couldn't answer. Can you answer that question? Here is a hint, relationship. I can have all the riches in the world and it wouldn't alienate me from God. Why? It is because I know the Source of my wealth and riches and I honor Him in that area.
Funrider, your mindset needs to expand. Your current idea of wealth is at odds with your relationship with God. If you would forsake Him for money, then you have not realized who He is. He is your provider, and He is the source of wealth and riches. Remember Ecclesiastes 5:19? It is a gift of God. A gift? Sounds like grace and love to me. Your perception of God should evolve into a place that praises Him for His providence, He is the source. How hard a man will strive for riches when he could easily rest in God's providence. Trust is key.
Time is of the essence. Start today. With every moment longer you take one day, years from now, you'll think of how many years you wasted in self-sufficiency instead of trusting in His providence, if you continue on this path. We have spoken of the tithe in the past, my suggestion to you is to make it automatic and systematic. Ask the Lord where He would have you give and start doing it, consistently. There was a man recently who said that he wasted thirty years of his life in seeking riches to no avail and if he had known the secret of the tithe, he wouldn't have had to go through all the struggle. Now he is tithing, now he has an understanding of the principle of the tithe. Right now is his turning point, when will yours be?
P
None of us walks the walk perfectly.
The law reveals this,as does the HS,as do the epistles,and of course any of the word revealed against this flesh.
We as believers are REQUIRED to divorce this world. Die. Dead folks act different than alive ones.
Resurrected life is a basic,norm for ANY believer.
Problem is ,that dynamic REQUIRES A DEATH.
The template typically presented is a wimpy"dual life",where we can have our life here,and a dash of Christianity thrown in for a REALLY GOOD LIFE.
We are ignorant of the true commitment Jesus required of us from the beginning.
This derailment of heavens plan produces what we now have...
THE MAN CENTERED GOSPEL
.ME,ME,ME,ME,MINE,MINE,MINE I,I,I,........
WE,are the last days luke warm puke.
The law reveals this,as does the HS,as do the epistles,and of course any of the word revealed against this flesh.
We as believers are REQUIRED to divorce this world. Die. Dead folks act different than alive ones.
Resurrected life is a basic,norm for ANY believer.
Problem is ,that dynamic REQUIRES A DEATH.
The template typically presented is a wimpy"dual life",where we can have our life here,and a dash of Christianity thrown in for a REALLY GOOD LIFE.
We are ignorant of the true commitment Jesus required of us from the beginning.
This derailment of heavens plan produces what we now have...
THE MAN CENTERED GOSPEL
.ME,ME,ME,ME,MINE,MINE,MINE I,I,I,........
WE,are the last days luke warm puke.
Grace is being given something because someone feels generous towards you. You may not realise it by having lots of money is a gift of grace. As easily as it falls into your hands it can be ripped out again.
Love is about people caring for you and you caring for others. No society exists without love, without care parents for children, husbands for wives, brothers for sisters etc. There is love in the quality of work you do, love in warnings and health prevention advice, medicine, safety devices in cars when you crash etc. It is difficult to look at any achievement in society of value that has not incorporated love.
So money and grace and love are all interwoven. Now as a parasite who wishes to steal the money and deny its source is something that needs to be stopped because rather than build up it brings down.
So you want the reward but not to submit to the rules. So you will end up with neither. That is why your aspirations are so wrong and ill advised.
Love is about people caring for you and you caring for others. No society exists without love, without care parents for children, husbands for wives, brothers for sisters etc. There is love in the quality of work you do, love in warnings and health prevention advice, medicine, safety devices in cars when you crash etc. It is difficult to look at any achievement in society of value that has not incorporated love.
So money and grace and love are all interwoven. Now as a parasite who wishes to steal the money and deny its source is something that needs to be stopped because rather than build up it brings down.
So you want the reward but not to submit to the rules. So you will end up with neither. That is why your aspirations are so wrong and ill advised.
By the way you sound very much like a troll.
I say this because even a humanist would not take your position. You seem also incapable of taking advice or acknowledging the basics of human life. You claim leadership skills, which I doubt.
You say you have failed to get work, which is not a supprise if you are failing to follow anyone and acknowledge any reasonable structure of work or people. No that is below you and your gifting, people are too blinded to recognise this. But as you have not left home, formed a social group and actually applied yourself in the real world it is all pipe dreams with no practical application.
I say this because even a humanist would not take your position. You seem also incapable of taking advice or acknowledging the basics of human life. You claim leadership skills, which I doubt.
You say you have failed to get work, which is not a supprise if you are failing to follow anyone and acknowledge any reasonable structure of work or people. No that is below you and your gifting, people are too blinded to recognise this. But as you have not left home, formed a social group and actually applied yourself in the real world it is all pipe dreams with no practical application.
1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. 6They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
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So, let's keep it simple here. I dont want to waste time arguing with any of you. I want to find points of relateability and UNIFICATION with you under the name of Christ. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'm not complacent like most of you. I have strong ambitions and goals, and I will call out God if I find it necessary...but if I find a means to secure a future through him, I would not have a need to hold God accountable on the lack of forward progression in my life.
All I want to know is...why have secular professionals helped me 100x more than praying to the LORD ever has? Dont tell me the LORD sent me to these people through wisdom...to me, that's a cop-out on God's part. I will not give credit to the LORD if he himself is not the source of the blessing. Does the LORD arrange for certain blessings to be a part of people's lives, or is luck genuinely a factor?
I have a hard time...allowing my heart to trust that God is a caring God who takes care of his followers. I cannot see God as a provider. I see him as an obstacle, an opponent, an enemy, a tyrant, a limiting factor in personal achievement, a bully, an oppressor, a denier of blessing. I look at God, and I see HIM as a troll (PeterJens).
Can I expect the LORD to give to me and my family if I give to him first, or is he forever going to run me in circles, and throw more crap into my life. If he's there to help me, I give him 100% of all I have. If he's trolling me and leading me on a goose chase, what does that say about the faith?
All I want to know is...why have secular professionals helped me 100x more than praying to the LORD ever has? Dont tell me the LORD sent me to these people through wisdom...to me, that's a cop-out on God's part. I will not give credit to the LORD if he himself is not the source of the blessing. Does the LORD arrange for certain blessings to be a part of people's lives, or is luck genuinely a factor?
I have a hard time...allowing my heart to trust that God is a caring God who takes care of his followers. I cannot see God as a provider. I see him as an obstacle, an opponent, an enemy, a tyrant, a limiting factor in personal achievement, a bully, an oppressor, a denier of blessing. I look at God, and I see HIM as a troll (PeterJens).
Can I expect the LORD to give to me and my family if I give to him first, or is he forever going to run me in circles, and throw more crap into my life. If he's there to help me, I give him 100% of all I have. If he's trolling me and leading me on a goose chase, what does that say about the faith?
There is no such thing as luck. If you want a better life, get off your ascot and go get a job, find an apartment, etc. You expect God to hand you everything you want in life on a silver platter. Newsflash: he doesn't do that. It's up to YOU to be proactive in bettering your circumstances, then and ONLY then will God help you. But, seeing as how you blame him for your crappy life, WHY SHOULD he help you at all?? God doesn't troll us, but YOU are trolling HIM. Acting righteous one minute, saying you wouldn't trade him for anything, then in the same breath, saying the exact opposite, that you'd trade him in for millions of dollars. Why should God help a traitor like you? Simple answer: because he loves you!! Now stop being so greedy and lazy, get out there and make your life better with God's help. And stop whining about how crappy your life is.
Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.
Psalm 46:10
Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!
Job 40:2
Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
Do you have an arm like God’s, and can your voice thunder like his?
Job 8-9
Read Job and then come and take your stand. You wish to judge God and not acknowledge His ways.
If you think God is unjust and evil, I would like you to any why?
You want answers and remedies but refuse to accept the ones He provides you with.
What different would it make if He spoke from heaven? To you nothing, because you are convinced at your own rights and certainty. You declare yourself an enemy of God and want Him to be answerable to you.
You will receive a stone wall and judgement. Why do you think the bible was given to answer the very questions you are raising but you refuse to take the advice and then complain you have no answer and say you have more help from unbelievers. The truth is you cannot go because you are driven only to mock and jeer. The spirit within you is not of the Lord.
Psalm 46:10
Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!
Job 40:2
Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
Do you have an arm like God’s, and can your voice thunder like his?
Job 8-9
Read Job and then come and take your stand. You wish to judge God and not acknowledge His ways.
If you think God is unjust and evil, I would like you to any why?
You want answers and remedies but refuse to accept the ones He provides you with.
What different would it make if He spoke from heaven? To you nothing, because you are convinced at your own rights and certainty. You declare yourself an enemy of God and want Him to be answerable to you.
You will receive a stone wall and judgement. Why do you think the bible was given to answer the very questions you are raising but you refuse to take the advice and then complain you have no answer and say you have more help from unbelievers. The truth is you cannot go because you are driven only to mock and jeer. The spirit within you is not of the Lord.
Is God the dictator of the universe? Yes.
Are the problems we face part of His creation? Yes.
Is he commited to sorting us out if we search after Him? Yes.
Is the path almost impossible? Yes
Who is guilty of sin? We are. Who knows grace love and purity yet walks in evil every day? We do.
So who is the cause of our failure? We are.
What is the remedy? To seek the Lord and righteousness.
The poster here has denied his guilt and sin, poured scorn on grace and love, so has nothing left than being a jumped up rebellious sinner claiming innocense. Never have I met such a person who aspires so high and yet fails so obviously to grasp life and its beauty.
Are the problems we face part of His creation? Yes.
Is he commited to sorting us out if we search after Him? Yes.
Is the path almost impossible? Yes
Who is guilty of sin? We are. Who knows grace love and purity yet walks in evil every day? We do.
So who is the cause of our failure? We are.
What is the remedy? To seek the Lord and righteousness.
The poster here has denied his guilt and sin, poured scorn on grace and love, so has nothing left than being a jumped up rebellious sinner claiming innocense. Never have I met such a person who aspires so high and yet fails so obviously to grasp life and its beauty.
Funrider, you saying that secular professionals helped you 100x more than a prayer to God ever has. Then please tell me who ever did for you that what Jesus did for you? Who ever carried for you the pain and dishonor of beeing cruzified?
Even he had the power to avoid this suffering. He did not, because this was the only way for to bring you into an relationship with god the father. To give you eternal Life! He did that because he loves you!
And you blame him, because he gives you not that what you want! Maby you should ask yourself why. Children can ask their father for everything, but sometimes it is not good for the children to get what they ask for.
In no single word which you wrote in this threat i could read that you are thankful to Him. You call some of us complacent, but maby we are thankful for that what he provide us. Maby we see that he loves us and carry us through our problems which we have. Ore do you think you are the only person who is suffering. Look into this world how many christians are persecutet for tho follow Jesus. They suffer more than you, but they hold to Jesus.
Even he had the power to avoid this suffering. He did not, because this was the only way for to bring you into an relationship with god the father. To give you eternal Life! He did that because he loves you!
And you blame him, because he gives you not that what you want! Maby you should ask yourself why. Children can ask their father for everything, but sometimes it is not good for the children to get what they ask for.
In no single word which you wrote in this threat i could read that you are thankful to Him. You call some of us complacent, but maby we are thankful for that what he provide us. Maby we see that he loves us and carry us through our problems which we have. Ore do you think you are the only person who is suffering. Look into this world how many christians are persecutet for tho follow Jesus. They suffer more than you, but they hold to Jesus.
B
When going through hard times.
10. Job 1:20-22 Job stood up, tore his robe in grief, and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground and worshiped. He said, “Naked I came from my mother, and naked I will return. The Lord has given, and the Lord has taken away! May the name of the Lord be praised.” Through all this Job did not sin or blame God for doing anything wrong.
11. James 1:12 Blessed are those who endure when they are tested. When they pass the test, they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
12. James 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
10. Job 1:20-22 Job stood up, tore his robe in grief, and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground and worshiped. He said, “Naked I came from my mother, and naked I will return. The Lord has given, and the Lord has taken away! May the name of the Lord be praised.” Through all this Job did not sin or blame God for doing anything wrong.
11. James 1:12 Blessed are those who endure when they are tested. When they pass the test, they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
12. James 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.