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Link to Article there very own words :

The Pope’s great Evangelical gamble | CatholicHerald.co.uk

Somewhere in Pope Francis’s office is a document that could alter the course of Christian history. It declares an end to hostilities between Catholics and Evangelicals and says the two traditions are now “united in mission because we are declaring the same Gospel”. The Holy Father is thinking of signing the text in 2017, the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, alongside Evangelical leaders representing roughly one in four Christians in the world today.


My thoughts out aloud:


Thee Holy Scripture very clear on such things : Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Let us examine all things with The Word Of God

Let us all test the spirit for not all are from God...

Here is the main dish , the issue , all belivers will have to deal with from this point forward. Stand for truth or be partakers with this fallen world.

- Radical Christianity is not Build on The Rock -

For those that have eyes to see , let us examine these things more carefully . Thee majority will not inherit the Kingdom of God. For they have decided in there heart to befriend the world standards. Instead of holding on firm to The Light that shineth in darkness , The Truth & Faith in Christ Jesus.

Thee adversary is very crafty , and he is aware that if it seems plesant to the eyes & hears sweet to the ears. Thee snare will fulfill it's purpose, and those that are caught will not escape.

Thee deception is much deeper than just diffrent fractions calling themselfs christian. This Ecumenical Movement is not only from the enemy , but will test our walk in Christ. To examine if we have The Armor Of God placed upon us, or we have built our faith on sand , all this while claiming to be Christ like and will not endure when the storm comes.

There is a clash coming , that many will not be able to withstand. Only those that have anchor themselves , with The Truth in Christ Jesus will stand firm & overcome.

This is a call to examine ourselfs , & follow the teaching of Christ The Apostles & Prophets of God. Let us all study God Word to ask for wisdom to gain understanding , along with discernment in these times we are in. So that we may continue on thee narrow path. In Truth & In Spirit and behold Him that saved us from our sin .

Thee calling is assured , for those who will endure to the end , contend for the Faith and establish yourself on The Rock. Moving Forward with a sincere heart towards God .

Many individuals may not like what was posted but the truth is the truth ...

Shalom
 

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I always remember that Christ said: to deceive if possible even the elect..


That is pretty telling..

So many religions come under Christianity.. and while some will befriend there will be Faithful Believers that just don’t buy in to the lies..

Kept by the power of GOD.. for He is our Strength and Refuge covered by His Wings.
 

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Thee Ecumenical Movement continues :

Copeland says Protestant Reformation was a demon

[video=youtube_share;qL7jTTFSL0U]http://youtu.be/qL7jTTFSL0U[/video]

This is something to pay very close attention, towards in the future of america. Copeland is a religious advisor of thee current president and stated late last year " just google it " , If God gave him a message he has no doubt that he could plea with the president and it will be fulfilled.

Copeland along with many others apostate Churches , celebrating a event name karios 2017 proclaiming the Protest is over.

They are pushing a unity that is a counterfeit of faith. For those that know Jesus Christ and hear his voice are convince by His Word , that they cannot join themself with a harlot.

Shalom
 
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In these times establish yourself on The Rock , not Peter , not mary , not your friends , pastors or love ones , but God.

Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Shalom
 

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Mr Copeland says a lot of things.. I won’t repeat the saying that sticks out in my mind.. they speak for themselves because the Children of GOD will hold fast by GOD’s Strength.

thank you for sharing Vic.

GOD Bless you.
 

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Mr Copeland says a lot of things.. I won’t repeat the saying that sticks out in my mind.. they speak for themselves because the Children of GOD will hold fast by GOD’s Strength.

thank you for sharing Vic.

GOD Bless you.
There much more to share stay tune , this is not about Catholic people " but the RCC DOCTRINE " because many will come out of her . A impressive and very crafty intelligent chess move that thee adversary has , to unite everyone to The Mother of Harlots & Abominations of The Earth.

Shalom
 
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More on Ecumenical Movement :

- Heathendom is not Abiding in the vine -


A user upload this pic on CC



The Apostle Paul warn TRUE belivers :

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


Now for a man that praise his good friend " Rick Warren " that pushes another gospel Christlam , how would anyone defend such a individual ? A man that clearly stated the King of Vatican City is our Pope ??? What type of fruit is being produce in these churches , a counterfeit of the real Gospel.

We can assume Ravi is lacking discerment , but this is not applicable to a individual that co-written / revised a book upon cluts name "The Kingdom of The Cults "

Interesting thing to note in that book , he did not include The Roman Catholic Church (Doctrine) and it's history of persecuting The Saints of God.

Ravi also has attendant many of these ecumenical movment , that are preaching a doctrine of counterfeit unity. Other that the one that the Apostle taught us to hold on too.

The end result is a confusing & contradicting embrace of hypocrisy in the name of unity.

A true disciple of Christ , tends to the souls that are being lead astray . With this truth being presented it is evident that these men that participate in such events for a unity crafted in deception , do not share the same attributes of The Apostle Paul or Disciples of Jesus Christ.

They themselves are preaching a diffrent Jesus to others.

- They have given the people the wine of Babylon -
 
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-Heathendom is not Abiding in the vine-


These men hearts are not in it for lost souls , but for mammon. They put up a show to blind the eyes of many with there personality , there credentials , there many books & finally there false ungodly unity. That cannot save them on The Day of the Lord.

-They have given the people the wine of Babylon-

Shalom
 

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If the reformers understood and lived through the dark ages , Let us be wise and carefully examine the world they live in.

[video=youtube_share;nARtwEOQndk]http://youtu.be/nARtwEOQndk[/video]

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not;and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Red: Thee History of Rome Cesars , Emperor Justilian 538 AD giving his seat/authority to the Popes that Persecuted The Saints of God

Blue: 1798 General Berthier capture pope , ends Justilian code , and napolean ushers in Napoleonic Code

Green: Lateran treaty of 1929 to our present time 2017, Pope is regaining power from nations and churches , deadly head wound heal. Persecution of The Saints

Shalom
 
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The Ecumenical movement continues​

In recent events Karios 2017 , seems to be kicking of it's seed of deception into america. The spear head for vatican in the united states , Copeland gave a sermon while pope francis watch live via video and his representatives present at the event.

-Copeland in a sermon given at karios 2017 stated the following-​


[video=youtube_share;2ROXkPFXA7U]http://youtu.be/2ROXkPFXA7U[/video]

Now when your dealing with what happen five hundred years ago , that split go into the hands of wicked spirits in heavenly places. For five hundred years , what were we called , protestors , what is a protest strife. We haven't been know for the way we love one another , we been know for our church fights. But that was the big one & the longer it went , the more strength that devil gain, these are wicked spirits in heaven . Because it got into goverment hey this this thing is huge i mean huge ,and im sorry to say most of the church don't know it's over , but they better find out . I tell you what... One of my favorite days of my life is with pope francis what a man he is one of my heroes and this is what he is all about. 2018 is the year of the holyghost and fire.

My views: The Lord Word advise us ahead of time upon the falling away , always examine His words . Before proceeding with such friendship with individuals teachers , pastors , co workers that have another spirit.
 
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Kenneth copeland quote : I tell you what... One of my favorite days of my life is with pope francis what a man he is one of my heroes and this is what he is all about , this whole thing. 2018 is the year of the holyghost and fire.

Liberty was fought for with a price , religious liberty from tyrants as thee kings of europe , spain , france and Vatican city.
 
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As long as a man accepts being called "Holy Father", I have little in common with him.
 

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We all have to be reminded that the current president has 34 catholic advisors

Evangelical Advisor to Trump Calls for Solidarity with the Vatican




Political tensions have maligned relationships between the evangelical and Catholic communities. Now evangelical leaders are pushing for unity with the Vatican.

Johnnie Moore, evangelical advisor to President Donald Trump, has penned a letter to Pope Francis calling for a resolution of this conflict. Moore is an active advocate for the persecuted Church and hopes to resolve tensions so that the two Church sects can work harmoniously.

An excerpt from Moore's letter to the Pope reads: "As you know more than most, all of this has also come at a time of historic Christian persecution in more places than perhaps at any time in Christian history. Together, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestant, and evangelical Christians throughout the entire world have shared - as you've said – 'an ecumenism of blood.'"

Pope Francis and President Trump have had conflicting agendas, specifically regarding immigration and refugee treatment. But according to Moore, some disagreements may be unprecedented. In efforts to mend the wounds of the evangelical-Catholic relationship, Moore has requested a meeting with the pope in which he hopes to include other religious leaders with global influence.

Link: Evangelical Advisor to Trump Calls for Solidarity with the Vatican | CBN News
 

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Vatican arrows have infritraded the white house . Religious cathoic advisor Rick Santorum , needs to revise what jfk speech meant & also read upon James Madison & Thomas Jefferson writings on SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE.

If this is how he felt in 2012 , imagine how he feels now , that the present president vows "google it" to close the gap between church & state.

[video=youtube_share;gf7R6KSgvhM]http://youtu.be/gf7R6KSgvhM[/video]

History Lesson of the past , they understood the persecution of the kings & vatican :

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries." - James Madison

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Trump quote : Think of the power we have over the Democrates over the Republicans , the power is incredible .

[video=youtube_share;rOoCBwNcXak]http://youtu.be/rOoCBwNcXak[/video]

The law that protest the papacy & her dirty deeds

First Amendment to the United States Constitution

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First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prevents Congress from making any law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, or abridging the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the right to peaceably assemble, or to petition for a governmental redress of grievances.
 

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Many of her daughters have return to her , expect much more church leaders , teachers , to unite with her. The goverments of this world also have pledge to uphold his Ladato si Encyclical Letter.

You can google it and read the fine prints yourself. Towards " mandatory rest " worship on the day the king of rome promotes . This is going to be a battle upon worshipping as God commanded or following a man that is lifting himself up thinking he is a god.

[video=youtube_share;lsn2H2tRjrE]http://youtu.be/lsn2H2tRjrE[/video]

This is something to keep and eye one , because History is repeating itself once again. The deadly Head would is healed.
 
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Catholic and Protestant leaders unite to mark start of Reformation

The archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, presented a text by the Anglican communion affirming a joint declaration by the Roman Catholic church and global Protestant bodies, described as “a sign of healingafter 500 years of division”.

Link : http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...art-reformation-archbishop-canterbury-service

So now this is consider conspiracy theories ??? It seems there no need to continue to update this thread on cc .

 

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-Here is some old stuff from a thread i belive is worthy to note upon William Tyndale-​

William Tyndale english translation brought " The Light " to the people to read 1520's , in there native language , before the king gave permission to published the translation in 1538 two years after his martyr.

Let us examine the world of William tyndale . In His very own words , how was it to live in such a era , controlled by the tyrant kings along with the Papacy.


Quote from above: Finally in this they be all agreed, to drive you from the knowledge of the scripture, and that ye shall not have the text thereof in the mother tongue, and to keep the world still in darkness, to the intent they might sit in the consciences of the people, through vain superstition and false doctrine, to satisfy their filthy lusts, their proud ambition, and unsatiable covetousness, and to exalt their own honor above King and Emperor, yea, and above God himself.

Quote from above: Under what manner therefore should I now submit this book to be corrected and amended of them, which can suffer nothing to be well? Or what protestation should I make in such a matter unto our prelates,those stubborn Nimrods which so mightily fight against God and resist his holy spirit, enforcing with all craft and subtlety to quench the light of the everlasting testament, promises, and appointment made between God and us? And heaping the fierce wrath of God upon all princes and rulers, mocking them with false feigned names of hypocrisy, and serving their lusts at all points, and dispensing with them even of the very laws of God, of which Christ himself testifieth (Matthew 5) that not so much as one tittle thereof may perish or be broken. And of which the prophet sayeth (Psalm 118): Thou hast commanded thy laws to be kept "meod", that is in Hebrew "exceedingly," with all diligence, might, and power, and have made them so mad with their juggling charms and crafty persuasions that they think it full satisfaction for all their wicked living, to torment such as tell them truth, and to burn the word of their soul's health, and slay whosoever believe thereon.


An answer unto sir Thomas More's dialogue (1531).​



  • Take heed, therefore, wicked prelates, blind leaders of the blind; indurate and obstinate hypocrites, take heed …. Ye will be the chiefest in Christ's flock, and yet will not keep one jot of the right way of his doctrine …ye keep thereof almost naught at all, but whatsoever soundeth to make of your bellies, to maintain your honour, whether in the Scripture, or in your own traditions, or in the pope's law, that ye compel the lay-people to observe; violently threatening them with your excommunications and curses, that they shall be damned, body and soul, if they keep them not. And if that help you not, then ye murder them mercilessly with the sword of the temporal powers, whom ye have made so blind that they be ready to slay whom ye command, and will not hear his cause examined, nor give him room to answer for himself.
 
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-More old stuff that is buried in the forums on William Tyndale-

Preface to The Practice of Prelates (1531)

I call God to record against the day we shall appear before our Lord Jesus, that I never altered one syllable of God's Word against my conscience, nor would do this day, if all that is in earth, whether it be honor, pleasure, or riches, might be given me.


[video=youtube_share;1xtaA-3FrRw]http://youtu.be/1xtaA-3FrRw[/video]
 

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-More old stuff that is buried in the forums to remind us-

Thee anti reformation is growing by the day , let us examine ourselfs while there is still daylight , let us be prepared to Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.


[video=youtube_share;5rwb3jPbedU]http://youtu.be/5rwb3jPbedU[/video]

False teachers & Leaders have infiltrated the churches , even speaking lies stating that the reformers & the scholar were wrong. For standing up against the Roman Catholic Church ,& her lies. Brethren stand strong for Thee Truth In Christ.

Because soon in our life , we will have to stand for The Faith , as they did of long ago. Hold on to what other's were willing to die for , the truth in Jesus Christ .

If any member on cc wishes to continue to update this thread , go for it , and may truth in Christ continue to shine , God bless​
 
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