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-More old stuff that is buried in the forums to remind us-

The Dragon- All Kingdoms that make up the golden statue in Book of Daniel / Rome Cesars until Justilian gave his seat and authority to the bishop of the RCC.

The Beast out of the sea 1st beast - The King of Rome / thee Roman Catholic Church along with her allies tyrant kings that persecuted the saints .

Deadly Head wound upon one of its heads - The Reformers began this wound up until 1798 General Berthier capture pope , ends Justilian code , and napolean ushers in Napoleonic Code , This beast head lost it's power upon governance along with trying to dictate the churches.

Head would healed all the world wonders - Lateran Treaty of 1929 to present as her daughters (apostate churches) are returning to her. This beast head is regaining her power not only in church but in goverments.

Thee Deadly head wound , did not destroy the RCC , but it put a stop to her persecutions of The Saints.

The Beast Out of the Earth 2 Beast - America & thee Apostate Churches , a image to the first beast.

[video=youtube_share;JfDiSQuwXKk]http://youtu.be/JfDiSQuwXKk[/video]

Revelation 13:11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.


If any member on cc wishes to continue to update this thread , go for it , and may truth in Christ continue to shine , God bless​
 
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Reminder Vatican is not only a nation but a church , the only church that is represented in the United Nations.​



("Sacros[ancta] Lateran[ensis] eccles[ia] omnium urbis et orbis ecclesiarum mater et caput") Inscription on the façade of the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran (Rome).

-Meaning in English-

"Most Holy Lateran Church, of all the churches in the city and the world, the mother and head"

The woman upon the Beast in Revelation
 
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UPDATE : THE MAJORITY VS THOSE THAT HOLD TO THE FAITH
World Communion of Reformed Churches joins Catholic-Lutheran agreement on justification

The World Communion of Reformed Churches (WCRC) has signed the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification (JDDJ).


(THE MAJORITY )

Now the doctrinal agreement is supported by the Roman Catholic Church, the Lutheran World Federation (LWF), the World Methodist Council (WMC), and the WCRC.

The Catholic representative believes that this oingoing process “allowed the signing of the Joint Declaration on Justification in 1999 along with the LWF; then, in 2006, the Methodist Church associated itself with this doctrine. And now all the Communion of the Reformed Churches does the same.”

Catholics and most of the historical Protestant Churches now agree on the essence of justification, so we have a much stronger basis on which to build our spiritual and ecclesial relationship”, Farrell said.

“SPIRIT OF ECUMENICAL OPENNESS” - YES A DIFFRENT SPIRIT THEY ARE GATHERING TOGETHER


The WCRC and the LWF also signed the “Wittenberg Witness”, a common statement affirming their common call to continued renewal and cooperation on the occasion of the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation.

“We approach the Reformation anniversary from the perspective of the unity of the body of Christ, which is a gift of God. This means we approach it with a spirit of ecumenical openness and accountability. The Wittenberg Witness is a testimony to this”, said LWF General Secretary Junge.


THE WCRC

The World Communion of Reformed Churches (WCRC) is the largest association of Reformed Churches in the worldand the fifth largest Christian communion in the world, after the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Anglican Communion and the Methodist Council World.



It represents some 80 million Christians in Congregational, Presbyterian, Reformed, United, Uniting and Waldensian churches in 108 countries.



This Christian ecumenical body was formed in June 2010 by the union of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC) and the Reformed Ecumenical Council (REC).


Link: World Communion of Reformed Churches joins Catholic-Lutheran agreement on justification

 

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Joint Statement by the Lutheran World Federation

and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity on the conclusion of the year of the common commemoration of the Reformation,

31st October 2017
On 31st of October 2017, the final day of the year of the common ecumenical Commemoration of the Reformation, we are very thankful for the spiritual and theological gifts received through the Reformation, a commemoration that we have shared together and with our ecumenical partners globally. Likewise, we begged forgiveness for our failures and for the ways in which Christians have wounded the Body of the Lord and offended each other during the five hundred years since the beginning of the Reformation until today.

We, Lutherans and Catholics, are profoundly grateful for the ecumenical journey that we have travelled together during the last fifty years. This pilgrimage, sustained by our common prayer, worship and ecumenical dialogue, has resulted in the removal of prejudices, the increase of mutual understanding and the identification of decisive theological agreements. In the face of so many blessings along the way, we raise our hearts in praise of the Triune God for the mercy we receive.

On this day we look back on a year of remarkable ecumenical events, beginning on 31st October 2016 with the joint Lutheran-Catholic common prayer in Lund, Sweden, in the presence of our ecumenical partners. While leading that service, Pope Francis and Bishop Munib A. Younan, then President of the Lutheran World Federation, signed a joint statement with the commitment to continue the ecumenical journey together towards the unity that Christ prayed for (cf. Jn 17:21). On the same day, our joint service to those in need of our help and solidarity has also been strengthened by a letter of intent between Caritas Internationalis and the Lutheran World Federation World Service.

Pope Francis and President Younan stated together: “Many members of our communities yearn to receive the Eucharist at one table, as the concrete expression of full unity. We experience the pain of those who share their whole lives, but cannot share God’s redeeming presence at the Eucharistic table. We acknowledge our joint pastoral responsibility to respond to the spiritual thirst and hunger of our people to be one in Christ. We long for this wound in the Body of Christ to be healed. This is the goal of our ecumenical endeavours, which we wish to advance, also by renewing our commitment to theological dialogue”.

Among the blessings of this year of Commemoration is the fact that for the first time Lutherans and Catholics have seen the Reformation from an ecumenical perspective. This has allowed new insight into the events of the sixteenth century which led to our separation. We recognize that while the past cannot be changed, its influence upon us today can be transformed to become a stimulus for growing communion, and a sign of hope for the world to overcome division and fragmentation. Again, it has become clear that what we have in common is far more than that which still divides us.

We rejoice that the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification, solemnly signed by the Lutheran World Federation and the Roman Catholic Church in 1999, has also been signed by the World Methodist Council in 2006 and, during this Commemoration Year of the Reformation, by the World Communion of Reformed Churches. On this very day it is being welcomed and received by the Anglican Communion at a solemn ceremony in Westminster Abbey. On this basis ourChristian communions can build an ever closer bond of spiritual consensus and common witness in the service of the Gospel.

We acknowledge with appreciation the many events of common prayer and worship that Lutherans and Catholics have held together with their ecumenical partners in different parts of the world, as well as the theological encounters and the significant publications that have given substance to this year of Commemoration.

Looking forward, we commit ourselves to continue our journey together, guided by God’s Spirit, towards the greater unity according to the will of our Lord Jesus Christ. With God’s help we intend to discern in a prayerful manner our understanding on Church, Eucharist and Ministry, seeking a substantial consensus so as to overcome remaining differences between us. With deep joy and gratitude we trust “that He who has begun a good work in [us] will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ” (Ph 1:6).

Link : Joint Statement by the Lutheran World Federation and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity on the conclusion of the year of the common commemoration of the Reformation, 31st October 2017


This is one of thee deception of thee adversary , that will bring about a persecution , to those that do not submit to there gathering together as one , keep that in mind.

This movement as they have stated , is push by a diffrent Spirit , they themselfs have openly address as the following :

“SPIRIT OF ECUMENICAL OPENNESS”

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-These are things to be adressed for those that are having a hard time discern the times-

The central pillar of Protestantism is justification by faith alone. (JBF)

The appearance of consensus ( on the issue of justification) created by the JDDJ " The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification " is due to a play on semantics. ( A play on words )

The JDDJ amounts to an abandonment od the reformation's concept of JBF (Justification by Faith Alone)

There is much more to this very small portion that has been adressed.

Setting aside truth will ultimately lead The Truth in Jesus Christ outside the movement

Hope this was simple to understand shalom :)
 

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i thought he resigned as a Pope
Link to Article there very own words :

The Pope’s great Evangelical gamble | CatholicHerald.co.uk

Somewhere in Pope Francis’s office is a document that could alter the course of Christian history. It declares an end to hostilities between Catholics and Evangelicals and says the two traditions are now “united in mission because we are declaring the same Gospel”. The Holy Father is thinking of signing the text in 2017, the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, alongside Evangelical leaders representing roughly one in four Christians in the world today.


My thoughts out aloud:


Thee Holy Scripture very clear on such things : Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Let us examine all things with The Word Of God

Let us all test the spirit for not all are from God...

Here is the main dish , the issue , all belivers will have to deal with from this point forward. Stand for truth or be partakers with this fallen world.

- Radical Christianity is not Build on The Rock -

For those that have eyes to see , let us examine these things more carefully . Thee majority will not inherit the Kingdom of God. For they have decided in there heart to befriend the world standards. Instead of holding on firm to The Light that shineth in darkness , The Truth & Faith in Christ Jesus.

Thee adversary is very crafty , and he is aware that if it seems plesant to the eyes & hears sweet to the ears. Thee snare will fulfill it's purpose, and those that are caught will not escape.

Thee deception is much deeper than just diffrent fractions calling themselfs christian. This Ecumenical Movement is not only from the enemy , but will test our walk in Christ. To examine if we have The Armor Of God placed upon us, or we have built our faith on sand , all this while claiming to be Christ like and will not endure when the storm comes.

There is a clash coming , that many will not be able to withstand. Only those that have anchor themselves , with The Truth in Christ Jesus will stand firm & overcome.

This is a call to examine ourselfs , & follow the teaching of Christ The Apostles & Prophets of God. Let us all study God Word to ask for wisdom to gain understanding , along with discernment in these times we are in. So that we may continue on thee narrow path. In Truth & In Spirit and behold Him that saved us from our sin .

Thee calling is assured , for those who will endure to the end , contend for the Faith and establish yourself on The Rock. Moving Forward with a sincere heart towards God .

Many individuals may not like what was posted but the truth is the truth ...

Shalom
 

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A clear example that vatican never changes, even if they sign a joint declaration. The churches that sign unity with RCC have to compromise The Truth for friendship with The Harlot.

Three ways to obtain an indulgence for the 100-year Fatima anniversary

Fatima, Portugal, Dec 1, 2016 / 06:32 am (CNA/EWTN News).- For the 100th anniversary of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima in Portugal, Pope Francis has decided to grant a plenary indulgence opportunity throughout the entire anniversary year, which began Nov. 27, 2016, and will end Nov. 26, 2017.

The Executive Secretary of the Rectory of the Fatima Shrine in Portugal, André Pereira, explained to CNA that the plenary indulgence can be obtained during the entire Jubilee Year. There are three ways of obtaining the indulgence, detailed in a statement on the shrine's website.

To obtain the plenary indulgence, the faithful must also fulfill the ordinary conditions: go to Confession and Communion, be interiorly detached from sin, and pray for the intentions of the Holy Father.


1. Make a pilgrimage to the shrine

The first way is for “the faithful to make a pilgrimage to the Fatima Shrine in Portugal and participate in a celebration or prayer dedicated to the Virgin.”

In addition, the faithful must pray the Our Father, recite the Creed, and invoke the Mother of God.


2. Pray before any statue of Our Lady of Fatima

The second way applies to “the pious faithful who visit with devotion a statue of Our Lady of Fatima solemnly exposed for public veneration in any church, oratory or proper place during the days of the anniversary of the apparitions, the 13th of each month from May to October (2017), and there devoutly participate in some celebration or prayer in honor of the Virgin Mary.”

Regarding this second way, the rector of the Fatima Shrine told CNA that the visit to the statue of the Virgin, “does not necessarily have to be only at Fatima or exclusively in Portugal,” but can be done anywhere in the world.
Those seeking an indulgence must also pray an Our Father, recite the Creed and invoke Our Lady of Fatima.


3. The elderly and infirm

The third way to obtain a plenary indulgence applies to people who, because of age, illness or other serious cause, are unable to get around.

These individuals can pray in front of a statue of Our Lady of Fatima and must spiritually unite themselves to the jubilee celebrations on the days of the apparitions, the 13th of each month, between May and October 2017.

They also must “offer to merciful God with confidence, through Mary, their prayers and sufferings or the sacrifices they make in their own lives.”

Link: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...nce-for-the-100-year-fatima-anniversary-78258
 

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Here is something to consider upon

[video=youtube_share;92FewVcJJaw]http://youtu.be/92FewVcJJaw?list=PLJ1pVbTWV8GUvmMivHA9WefKX988rxOp K[/video]

The JDDJ Document was not established to unite all protestant Churches , but to gather thee majority against the minority that uphold Thee Truth In Christ . Thee Harlot RCC "Roman Catholic Church" along with it's king , Thee Beast " Francis I " will suceed in it's counterfeit alliance that they call the Real Faith , due that God word speaks upon the fallen away.

These organizations that call themself churches , don't even resemble what protestant stood for , hence they have united with " Cesar " goverment in agreements upon the 501c3 codex . Let us observe this upon biblical truths , since when did tithe to The Lord become a end of the year check to be recived. This charade has been openly exposed by the Word Of God.

The lines between Protestantism and Catholicism have become blurred by ecumenism. Today, Protestants stand for very little that can be truly called Protestantism. The Counter Reformation by the Catholic Church, for the most part, has achieved its goals.

Paul went to the synagogue to Preach The Word of God , he did not own one. There were churches established in people homes. That had nothing to do with the "Ceasar" Goverments or "Harlot" RCC Romanisim decree's.

I pray that many on here , there eyes will be open to see these truths shalom.​
 

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Don't compromise !!!


Keeping running the race to the finish line , hold on to what other were willing to die for. The Truth in Jesus Christ.


[video=youtube_share;wFO2BQtamI4]http://youtu.be/wFO2BQtamI4[/video]​
 

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Modern Day Tower of ecumenical / babal in Jerusalem

THE ELIJAH INTERFAITH INSTITUE​


I will bring them to My holy mount, and I will cause them to rejoice in My house of prayer, for My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples. (Isaiah 56:7)

The HOPE vision – a House of Prayer and Education – the first interfaith center in Jerusalem.

HOPE draws from an ancient Biblical vision, spelled out by Isaiah, a vision of harmony and unity in the divine presence: “My house shall be called a house of prayer for all people.” HOPE seeks to translate this vision into a reality of sharing prayer for peace by Muslims, Christians, Jews and others, praying in their respective spaces, under one roof. HOPE is an educational complex that seeks to set new standards in interfaith relations and sharing of wisdom. HOPE is a place of communal encounter for scholars, religious leaders, pilgrims, spiritual seekers and the community at large.

The Center of Hope will be a safe space, belonging fully to participating faiths. HOPE is a community of communities, a welcome for pilgrims, a home for all.

The House Of Prayer and Education is a means of training hearts and minds to openness to the other and to the ultimate other, a symbol and model for interfaith relations, and an invitation to jointly express in prayer the deepest aspirations of humanity and, above all, the aspiration for peace… in Jerusalem and the entire world.
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There is not a single institution in all of Jerusalem in which its religions share and come together.

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re is no interreligious center anywhere in the Holy Land that is frequented by members of the three religions and there is absolutely no sense of the possibility of sharing a site or a place of worship, as a means of seeking to express and deepen the quest for peace and harmony between Jerusalem’s religions. In fact, there is no such center anywhere in the world.

Once such a center is created, it would provide a powerful symbol of the potential that Jerusalem has to be a city of peace, rather than one of tension. It would inspire people outside Jerusalem, worldwide, to both support the collaborative spiritual vision of Jerusalem and to seek to emulate it and to extend it to their various localities. Thus, a Jerusalem-based project is actually quite international in its ultimate vision.

It also seeks to involve members of all religions, East and West, in the creation of the world’s most visible interfaith center, in a city that more than any city globally represents the coming together of different faith traditions, thereby providing a symbol for the potential of a better future. The Center of HOPE will include learning opportunities, a museum on prayer and the spiritual life, a pilgrims’ center for interreligious pilgrimage and parallel prayer spaces for all major faith traditions, modeling collaboration and the continuing quest of prayer for peace, in Jerusalem and worldwide.

Link: Center of HOPE – Elijah Interfaith
 

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[video=youtube_share;HEZNf-zGUiw]http://youtu.be/HEZNf-zGUiw[/video]

We have to be reminded that kenneth copeland , is thee current president religious advisor and working with vatican to promoting not only ecumenism. But strongly pushing for the end of protestantism.Yet this video was publish a while back , we have to discern there is a pattern that is emerging from the past. That not only the Reformers would have identified , but as well as the founding fathers of america.

He will do anything in his power to teach that roman catholicism actually is christianity and that america by default is a christian (in the catholic understanding) nation, not a protestant one... finalizing the aim of Vatican II, the ecumenical movement.
 
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absolutely 'un-believable' what he just said~~~!!! just one more 'puppet'...

this is the final post that tells us just what and who he truly has
been appointed for and who he truly is manipulated by to 'serve'...
'the REAL MONEY/POWER, and those '42' behind the scenes who truly rule
the whole world through 'pure-satanic-influence'...

'out of the heart proceeds the abundance of the heart',..

of course this does not 'include all those who belong to the 'false-church', but
they are truly deceived...our hope is in and for those who do claim to be of this
demonic cult, but don't really know what is going-on behind the deception,
but in their precious hearts, truly LOVE and serve their Holy Saviour...

rome shall 'burn once more', for she is that wicked city, but have no pity on her
you faithful saints, for she is tainted, as we all know, with Christ's martyr's BLOOD'...
 

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Something to note , Francis has been continuing using these structure of ideals to identifying his enemy " 2014-2017 ".

Pope Francis: ‘The Mental Structure Of Fundamentalists Is Violence In The Name Of God’

Francis On fundamentalism

“A fundamentalist group, although it may not kill anyone, although it may not strike anyone, is violent. The mental structure of fundamentalists is violence in the name of God.”

But what exactly does this definition mean : Google search or Dictionary


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This is new to me , a friend has shared this today , perhaps you did not see this one aswell .

No one can make this stuff up , thee architecture of vatican audience "Paul VI Audience Hall" is no other than a serpent face with fangs. With the head of RCC "Papacy" sitting on his throne in the middle of it's mouth. You can google earth this yourself for a better view upon this building.

Inside look of audience hall in vatican face of serpent





Vatican audience hall view from thee outside it architecture represents a head of a serpent



Vatican RCC loyalty is towards another god.
 
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One of Vatican tools to bring in the masses , is not only thee ecumenical movement that has been address on this thread , but also climate change. Fracis thee I , Ladato si encyclical was crafted in such a particular way , it seems at first glance as a very good suitable lecture to put into action. But in reality there hides a very diabolical plot to force to put all under it's authority . Popery want the world to uphold his day of rest. Now this should be alarming to thee churches that gather on the first day.

As of this time you are free to worship God , but if a decree is put forth not only in America but all governance that have acknowledge the Ladato si encyclical . How will you respond , will you follow a man that has title himself as holy father & appointed law's , that are in opposition to The True in Doctrine. When these laws are inforce , perhaps you will uphold the Truth that is written in thee scripture , remind yourself He is your rock.

This is coming down to a worship issue , just as in the days of Daniel the prophet Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego .


ENCYCLICAL LETTER
LAUDATO SI’

OF THE HOLY FATHER

FRANCIS
ON CARE FOR OUR COMMON HOME



237. On Sunday, our participation in the Eucharist has special importance. Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world.

Link: Laudato si' (24 May 2015) | Francis
 

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World needs ‘brain washing’ on climate change, Jerry Brown says at Vatican



Vatican City

Gov. Jerry Brown challenged the world’s religious leaders to further engage as he minimized the negative effects of President Donald Trump on meeting the climate-change challenge.

Brown, who arrived Friday for nearly two weeks of climate talks across Europe, said the path to transformational change must include the mass mobilization of the religious and theological sphere, but also the prophetic sphere. To slow the devastation of climate change, society cannot rely only on science and technology and must begin to accept the need for more transformational approaches, Brown said. He spoke for more than 40 minutes, punctuating his remarks and answers to attending scientists to reflect on his own experiences.

The power here is prophecy. The power here is faith, and that’s what this organization is supposed to be about. So, let’s be about it and combine with the technical and the scientific and the political.”

Brown’s first brush with the concept of transformation came when he entered the Jesuit seminary in the 1950s before the Second Vatican Council. He spoke Latin, meditated, underwent self-discipline, mortified himself.

 
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AAAH Saint Trump and his acolytes are reaching out to the Vatican. To be sure the end is upon us all
 

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POPE & ISRAEL to 'SIGN' Historic Agreement 2017-18 ???​

[video=youtube;hegafJOQB3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hegafJOQB3k[/video]

Mabe many have already read upon the Fundamental Agreement between Israel & 8 king of the RCC since the signing of thee lateran treaty . This agreement launch in the year 1992, but has yet to be resolve completely.

Many placement of the agreement have been fulfilled , a clear example can be read upon on post #37 " The Elijah Inter faith Insitute ". Article 11 has yet to be in full force , due to negotiation are not yet finalized by both parties.

Fundamental Agreement


Article 11


§ 2. The Holy See, while maintaining in every case the right to exercise its moral and spiritual teaching-office, deems it opportune to recall that, owing to its own character, it is solemnly committed to remaining a stranger to all merely temporal conflicts, which principle applies specifi­cally to disputed territories and unsettled borders.

Link: Fundamental Agreement between the Holy See and the State of Israel
 
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This is all upon the Ladato si encyclical , proclaiming his day of rest towards all. Interesting enough the papacy is using every method possible from family, business organizational , enviornment , schools, goverments , insitutions and so fourth . To persuade the unions & readers that his view is the correct path to peace & rest.

Scripture warn us all there was a entity that wanted to change God law & time , for many years the papacy has fulfilled all these things.

The Pope to trade unions, “Defend the environment and the work of all”

Today there is at stake not only the dignity of the employed, but also the dignity of the labour of all people, and the home of all people, our mother earth.”

The meeting, entitled “From Populorum progressio to Laudato si’.


Link: The Pope to trade unions, “Defend the environment and the work of all” - La Stampa
 
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ENCYCLICAL LETTER
LAUDATO SI’

OF THE FALSE FATHER

FRANCIS

ON CARE FOR OUR COMMON HOME




167.Thus, the Eucharist is also a source of light and motivation for our concerns for the environment, directing us to be stewards of all creation.

237. Rest opens our eyes to the larger picture and gives us renewed sensitivity to the rights of others. And so the day of rest, centred on the Eucharist ,sheds it light on the whole week, and motivates us to greater concern for nature and the poor.