A prayer for racist people

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This is me giving them the benefit of the doubt, because the alternative is that they just hate all Jews. Anti-semitism is bad, Mm-kay?
You can't just be like "yeah, all these Jews are the problem" without looking like a genocide-mongering lunatic. Your normal average person isn't EVER going to listen to that and think "you know what? These guys might not be so bad".

I have given ethno-nationalists WAY more BoD than most people. I understand what happened at Charlottesville was mostly not their fault. The other group didn't have a permit, end of story, to me. I have watched all the Red Ice TV and as much ethnonationalist "propaganda" I could find, to really get an understanding of them- and on some points I agree with them, others... not so much. But I understand the desire to have their own nation, and not to be controlled by outside forces. They aren't doing them selves any favors by making enemies with civic nationalists, though. Ethnonationalists are never going to win anything or improve their situation alone.

Pure ethno-nations if they ever existed at all, existed during the patriarchal period, but even then you have instances of people defecting from one to the other. It's impractical to try and form an ethnostate, and it's probably not even sustainable. All these guys are accomplishing is the destabilization of society, justifying the left going nuts, and paving the way for power to be handed over to an Anti-Christ.


No, there's no irony, because what I said is a defining characteristic of racism. "racists" aren't a race, so much as people with prejudice.
Ethnonationalism I can at least understand, but ethno-supremacy is straight up evil. there's no grayness about it, and they will lose every time.

These guys' rhetoric is as TOTALLY NUTS as the left. Nobody is ever going to give them the time of day, or think "well, these guys are just different"- it's not going to happen. They are just making themselves enemies. And, yeah, they do need prayer. I want the Lord to open their eyes so they can see themselves how everyone else does- because that has to happen before anyone will see them the way they see themselves.
Hey SD,

Good response. I happen to disagree with you, but your post is intelligent and about 1000 times better put together than @TimothyGodIsLove could ever do. So here's my response to you.

1. You say there's no way the ethnonationalists will ever win. That's just your opinion. My opinion is that it's inevitable. I think the US is going to split up on ethnic lines because there's really nothing holding it together other than governmental force. The best reason to think that it wouldn't happen is just normalcy bias. Remember DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=WAR.

2. Good job on actually listening to some alternatives. It's harder and harder to get any alternative views out there. Everyone remotely sympathetic to the dissident right is getting banned, doxxed, demonetized, imprisoned, etc. I've even had my spotify lists curbed by left wing censorship. Anytime someone has to use the force of law or mob rule in order to curb speech and thought, then you can pretty much tell that those doing the censoring are wrong. Here's a pop quiz for you: Name the website that was shut down by Cloudflare....completely illegally...and no one in any authority had the guts to stop it from happening. That failure by supposedly "conservative" leadership is why pretty much everyone on the right has been silenced now.

3. You keep using this term "all jews". What you're doing is setting up a straw man in your own mind in order to knock it down and satisfy yourself that the Red Ice types are wrong. I can tell by the way you're writing that you know they're right. You know how I know this? It's because you're not talking about how they're wrong. Instead you're talking about how they appear or whether they can succeed. You're not really talking about why they're wrong...because you know they're right...about a lot of stuff. I would encourage you to follow the truth no matter where it might lead.

4. You statement was ironic because stupidity has nothing to do with racism. I know a couple dumb "racists". I know more really smart "racists". In fact I would bet that racism and intelligence are positively correlated. Smart people recognize patterns. Stupid people can't. That's why stupid people think race is just about skin color. The only people that would say that are the ignorant or the willfully duped...or the truly evil ones trying to deceive you.
 
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In terms of ethnic war, I think only a portion of each race will be at war (about 5 to maybe 30 percent). The rest will not be at war.
 

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And what exactly is a "practicing neo-Nazi"?
The ones who show up at Rally's with swastikas,
They go on internet spreading racist propaganda
And occasionally even physically assault people
 

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The ones who show up at Rally's with swastikas,
They go on internet spreading racist propaganda
And occasionally even physically assault people
Since all three of those things are crimes it should be easy to find these people and convict them of crimes.
 

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Since all three of those things are crimes it should be easy to find these people and convict them of crimes.
Yes and they should be prosecuted under hate crime statutes because intent matters. Same reason you get more time for premeditated murder
 
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The ones who show up at Rally's with swastikas,
They go on internet spreading racist propaganda
And occasionally even physically assault people
I think @ZNP already addressed this earlier. It's about 20:1 odds that those people are called "FBI agents" rather than "racists".
 

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I think @ZNP already addressed this earlier. It's about 20:1 odds that those people are called "FBI agents" rather than "racists".
Okay I don't want the straw man you here so are you arguing that neo-nazis marching in the streets with swastika flags are FBI agents?
 

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Okay I don't want the straw man you here so are you arguing that neo-nazis marching in the streets with swastika flags are FBI agents?
What we are arguing is that FBI agents dress up as neo-nazis to have better optics at making people think the rally is horrible.

It is impossible to cover every single rally ever, but if we focus on the January 6th riot in the Capital they refused for months to let us see the video inside for bogus reasons and when we finally did it became a complete joke their lie about this being the greatest threat to democracy. It was a bunch of grandmas taking selfies while being careful to stay in designated area for tourists.

You probably get confused during Halloween, but all those kids wearing Donald Trump masks were not actually Donald Trump.
 

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What we are arguing is that FBI agents dress up as neo-nazis to have better optics at making people think the rally is horrible.

It is impossible to cover every single rally ever, but if we focus on the January 6th riot in the Capital they refused for months to let us see the video inside for bogus reasons and when we finally did it became a complete joke their lie about this being the greatest threat to democracy. It was a bunch of grandmas taking selfies while being careful to stay in designated area for tourists.

You probably get confused during Halloween, but all those kids wearing Donald Trump masks were not actually Donald Trump.
You're all over the place here .I was talking about neo Nazis like the one who murdered that lady at the Charlotte rally a few years ago
Some of them even be a black man with a steel pipe, busted his head
So if you're arguing that FBI agents are pretending to be neo-nazis then you should probably be a yoga instructor because that's really a good stretch
 
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There really is only two nations one of good and one of evil.The saints go deeper knowing that the root of all evil is sin.Because we be family system would almost be unimportant.,,,Laws kings Queens ect,.A family in love with each other.
 

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You're all over the place here .I was talking about neo Nazis like the one who murdered that lady at the Charlotte rally a few years ago
Some of them even be a black man with a steel pipe, busted his head
So if you're arguing that FBI agents are pretending to be neo-nazis then you should probably be a yoga instructor because that's really a good stretch
I'm not all over anyplace. No one is denying there are such things as neo nazis. What we are saying is that false flag events like Jan 6th is where you see FBI agents pretending to be Neo Nazis or pro slavery or some other idiotic thing.

Hitler was allied with the elites. The "german miracle" was funded by the elites because they were afraid of communism. Hitler stopped the battle of Britain and attacked Russia because that is where the puppet masters really wanted him to attack.

The elites today are the party of Davos, they are globalists. the multinational corporations are not allied with any nation and they seek to hold power over the entire world. Once that is done you will have a ruling class and everyone else will be a serf.

The FBI agents are clearly working with the Deep State and the globalists. All you have to do is look at the two impeachments of Trump to prove that. FISA warrants are also evidence.
 
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I'm not all over anyplace. No one is denying there are such things as neo nazis. What we are saying is that false flag events like Jan 6th is where you see FBI agents pretending to be Neo Nazis or pro slavery or some other idiotic thing.
ZNP and Dude653 It's a lie no FBI in case both of you don't know.Those are lies of the devil.
 
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Okay I don't want the straw man you here so are you arguing that neo-nazis marching in the streets with swastika flags are FBI agents?
Ya for the most part. Nothing is at it seems, dude. Everything is a lie. There are agendas to be pushed. And there are palms to be greased. There's good money to be made in victimhood. Gotta keep those "bad guys" at the forefront of the minds of the sheep.

And you also gotta keep in mind that the number 1 goal of any organization is to grow itself. Cancer research institutes would die if they actually eradicated cancer. FBI needs more "hate crime" to justify bigger budgets, etc. Always ask yourself "who benefits from this action?"

Another thing that would help would be to try to consciously stretch your time horizons. Keep in mind that our enemy thinks in terms of decades, centuries and millenia. We have to think a little long term if we want to have any hope at all understanding current events.
 

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Okay first I'm not convinced that the deep state is even a thing and second what motivation would the FBI have to pretend to be neo nazis?
 
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Okay first I'm not convinced that the deep state is even a thing and second what motivation would the FBI have to pretend to be neo nazis?
None. No reason at all because the FBI is totally politically neutral. They don't have any agendas at all. And their actions and motivations have always been as pure as the wind driven snow. The fact that they didn't go after any ANTIFA's or BLM is because those were all peaceful protests. But the Jan 6 rally was a terrorist event that resulted in the complete destruction of the capital building.
 

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None. No reason at all because the FBI is totally politically neutral. They don't have any agendas at all. And their actions and motivations have always been as pure as the wind driven snow. The fact that they didn't go after any ANTIFA's or BLM is because those were all peaceful protests. But the Jan 6 rally was a terrorist event that resulted in the complete destruction of the capital building.
The capital thing is being investigated and prosecutions are underway
What they did was set what's called a digital fence which pings off the cell phone towers.
So if you entered the Capitol building with the cell phone in your pocket you will be getting a visit from the FBI
 
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The capital thing is being investigated and prosecutions are underway
What they did was set what's called a digital fence which pings off the cell phone towers.
So if you entered the Capitol building with the cell phone in your pocket you will be getting a visit from the FBI
Dude, I know you like to play dumb. But I can see from the pattern of your posts that you are not. I would suggest elevating your game.