ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Here is some common sense.

Do you know what a bell shaped curve is? Without explaining it, (you can google "explain bell shaped curve on Covid stats" ) This graph for the US will start to finally go down about May - June or soon after. In May of 2021 you will see the graph below with a down side on the right that has not happened yet.

Why do I think it will start to decline between May - June 2021? THE VACCINES.

Common sense will prevail.

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The orange line will take a dip down on the right side as fewer infections occur due to vaccines this will be gradual and then rapid decline, and then level off and eventually end with herd immunity over time, if 70% get vaccinated. (this is the theory) The graphic will look like a bell. Currently you see one half of the bell in the graph above. We want to see the other half.

So far it just keeps going up. Just waiting for everyone to get sick and get over it may never occur, the graph might never start to decline. The vaccines will cause the decline to start around May-June. I predict rapid drop free fall around Aug.

I am not an expert. This is just common sense. I might be wrong, but if I am right it was not because I got inside information from the Lizard people pulling the strings behind closed doors. It is because I was using common sense. Vaccines stamp out diseases when they work. Two of these vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate.

Common Sense. :cool:(y)
Good grief .. SMH
 

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Some pastors have said the same thing: that the vaccine is conditioning people to take the Mark. Irregardless, the people pushing the vaccine are not someone who you would want to trust.

Noooo! look The President announced the program when he created it https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/vi...-vaccine-development-5152020/590463338259130/

And in the final debate just before the election he announced it would be out in just weeks before even the news knew about it
Its safe you can trust it because it did come out like he said...don't be scared
 

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Y’all really need to understand how mRNA “vaccines” are designed and executed: You’re not going to like it
Posted on DECEMBER 7, 2020
But first, can we agree on the definition of “vaccine?” Assume that we are talking about a totally legit traditional vaccine, one that has been around for years and is safe and effective. Fundamentally, what is it? Can we agree that a vaccine is a substance made from a weakened or dead version of the pathogen which is introduced into the bloodstream to induce an immune response?
Okay.
So now understand this: mRNA “vaccines” are not vaccines… No. What we are dealing with here is bio-technology and bio-engineering. In short, it is genetic modification. Imagine the exuberance of the Luciferian Gates-funded pharmas, not to mention Gates himself, in their pursuit of being God.
So how does it work? When cells divide, the strands of DNA are replicated, and the Messenger RNA (mRNA) play a vital role in processes known as Transcription and Translation. Learn about this
HERE. This thing Moderna/Pfizer/Gates have come up with is a synthetic strand of mRNA, which penetrates the membrane of healthy human cells and hijacks the normal replication process. The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus, the so-called ‘spike protein.’ This molecule will be recognized as a pathogen, provoking an immune response.
The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus. You read that correctly. The following is from the first paragraph of the wiki entry on this technology:
An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a new type of vaccine that transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into human cells. Once inside the cells, the RNA functions as mRNA, reprogramming the cells to make the foreign protein that would normally be produced by the pathogen (e.g. a virus)… These protein molecules then stimulate an adaptive immune response that teaches the body to destroy any pathogen… The mRNA molecule is coated with a drug delivery vehicle, usually PEGylatedlipid nanoparticles,[2] to protect the fragile mRNA strands, and aid their absorption into the human cells.[3][4]
…little is known about the medium and longer-term side effects[8]
If you go to wiki HERE and click on View History at the top of the page, then scroll down and click Oldest, that this article was first created on 17 February 2020. How fresh. You will also note that as recently as January 2020, this technology was not even deemed experimental yet. It was deemed theoretical. Wow.
So many questions. Will the Organic Vegan Non-GMO crowd boycott this biotech, which effectively turns every human who takes it into a walking GMO? I sure hate when logic gets in the way of healthcare decisions. What happens if the warp-speed rush to polish off the biotech results in some of the mRNA sequencing being off, by just a little? I keep thinking of poor Jeff Goldblum in The Fly.
I also keep thinking of all the fruitless decades of trying to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with countless mice, cats, and kids who died in the trials. You didn’t know about that? Yes, the problem is that these “vaccines” have a tendency to enhance uptake of the pathogen. This effect is called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), and I posted a long annotated explanation of this problem HERE. Bottom line, this is the reason why there has never been any sort of coronavirus vaccine. But somehow they found one in ten months?
What about pregnancy, lactation, and the long-term fertility of genetically modified mommies? Ohhh… they don’t want to go there. You want to know how mRNA biotech might interfere with a developing baby, a breastfeeding baby, or mom’s chances of ever getting pregnant again? Too bad, since they purposely avoided trialing any of that, not even in mice. No need to disappear the evidence if no evidence was produced. Then when Pfizer got the UK approval, they issued TEN PAGES of splaining, warnings, disclaimers, etc. HERE
Bill Gates is on video explaining that he wants to reduce world population by 90%, but I’m the crackpot for suggesting that a vaccine that operates via synthetic genetics might pose fertility risks. Yup.
Please start explaining this stuff to friends and family.
 

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Y’all really need to understand how mRNA “vaccines” are designed and executed: You’re not going to like it
Posted on DECEMBER 7, 2020
But first, can we agree on the definition of “vaccine?” Assume that we are talking about a totally legit traditional vaccine, one that has been around for years and is safe and effective. Fundamentally, what is it? Can we agree that a vaccine is a substance made from a weakened or dead version of the pathogen which is introduced into the bloodstream to induce an immune response?
Okay.
So now understand this: mRNA “vaccines” are not vaccines… No. What we are dealing with here is bio-technology and bio-engineering. In short, it is genetic modification. Imagine the exuberance of the Luciferian Gates-funded pharmas, not to mention Gates himself, in their pursuit of being God.
So how does it work? When cells divide, the strands of DNA are replicated, and the Messenger RNA (mRNA) play a vital role in processes known as Transcription and Translation. Learn about this
HERE. This thing Moderna/Pfizer/Gates have come up with is a synthetic strand of mRNA, which penetrates the membrane of healthy human cells and hijacks the normal replication process. The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus, the so-called ‘spike protein.’ This molecule will be recognized as a pathogen, provoking an immune response.
The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus. You read that correctly. The following is from the first paragraph of the wiki entry on this technology:
An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a new type of vaccine that transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into human cells. Once inside the cells, the RNA functions as mRNA, reprogramming the cells to make the foreign protein that would normally be produced by the pathogen (e.g. a virus)… These protein molecules then stimulate an adaptive immune response that teaches the body to destroy any pathogen… The mRNA molecule is coated with a drug delivery vehicle, usually PEGylatedlipid nanoparticles,[2] to protect the fragile mRNA strands, and aid their absorption into the human cells.[3][4]
…little is known about the medium and longer-term side effects[8]
If you go to wiki HERE and click on View History at the top of the page, then scroll down and click Oldest, that this article was first created on 17 February 2020. How fresh. You will also note that as recently as January 2020, this technology was not even deemed experimental yet. It was deemed theoretical. Wow.
So many questions. Will the Organic Vegan Non-GMO crowd boycott this biotech, which effectively turns every human who takes it into a walking GMO? I sure hate when logic gets in the way of healthcare decisions. What happens if the warp-speed rush to polish off the biotech results in some of the mRNA sequencing being off, by just a little? I keep thinking of poor Jeff Goldblum in The Fly.
I also keep thinking of all the fruitless decades of trying to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with countless mice, cats, and kids who died in the trials. You didn’t know about that? Yes, the problem is that these “vaccines” have a tendency to enhance uptake of the pathogen. This effect is called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), and I posted a long annotated explanation of this problem HERE. Bottom line, this is the reason why there has never been any sort of coronavirus vaccine. But somehow they found one in ten months?
What about pregnancy, lactation, and the long-term fertility of genetically modified mommies? Ohhh… they don’t want to go there. You want to know how mRNA biotech might interfere with a developing baby, a breastfeeding baby, or mom’s chances of ever getting pregnant again? Too bad, since they purposely avoided trialing any of that, not even in mice. No need to disappear the evidence if no evidence was produced. Then when Pfizer got the UK approval, they issued TEN PAGES of splaining, warnings, disclaimers, etc. HERE
Bill Gates is on video explaining that he wants to reduce world population by 90%, but I’m the crackpot for suggesting that a vaccine that operates via synthetic genetics might pose fertility risks. Yup.
Please start explaining this stuff to friends and family.

Yes the truth is(and every Christian should be very careful..) with this because we might not be told until some years later what(or how) some of this is even created. One example is some of the vaccines we were all required to take as children(think shot records) that were developed from stem cells of aborted babies https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/abortion-opponents-protest-covid-19-vaccines-use-fetal-cells ... Others were created after this for other vaccines but this still means that we/I have been given vaccines containing this without our/my knowledge. https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/human-cell-strains-vaccine-development
 
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You do realize that Googling "How is the mRNA vaccine made" and reading the explanations would take far less time than you writing this post that is making false accusations concerning the vaccine being distributed in the UK right now and the Moderna vaccine coming soon in the USA? There are no cells of any kind, human or animal used to create an mRNA vaccine. Therefore you just made a serious false accusation. Doesn't that make you feel "evil"? What does the bible say about making false accusations? Doesn't it call it an ABOMINATION and one of the things that God HATES?

Why is it that people have such an abhorrence to the idea of a safe effective vaccine and are willing to make false accusations to scare people away from them, but they do not have an ABHORRENCE to that which the Bible has expressed it's strongest words of aborrence for. False accusations? Why is their conscience silent when they make false accusations?

These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
... A false witness that speaketh lies,...

Also, many vaccines that do use the method of growing virus cultures and using cells to create the antigens that go in a vaccine like the Flu vaccine do not use human cells, they use animal cells. And no cells are actually in the vaccine itself.

Yes in the past, there were vaccines that do use human cells in the development of the vaccines and these cells came from two aborted fetuses in the 1960s, one male and one female. Those cells have been continuously cloned and no other fetuses were used. Again, these cells are used in the development stage but they are not part of the final vaccine dose.

And of the COVID vaccines that will be coming out (not the mRNA vaccines, as they do not use any cells or virus cultures to manufacture) the vaccines that will use the classic method of growing virus cultures and using cells to create the final antigens that will be in the vaccine are using "ethically acquired cells" to resolve this issue.

You would need to read about the specific vaccine in question to find out how it is developed. If one of them (not the mRNA) uses an ethically acquired cell to manufacture the final vaccine then your objection has been resolved and you would have to come up with some other reason to call it evil. But make sure it is true first or you will need to repent of making false accusations which GOD HATES and which is an ABOMINATION to him right up there with Homosexual sins.
How do you know that it is a false accusation that aborted fetal tissue cells are one of the ingredients in the COVID-19 vaccine?

It is not a false accusation unless you can prove that I am wrong.
 

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How do you know that it is a false accusation that aborted fetal tissue cells are one of the ingredients in the COVID-19 vaccine?

It is not a false accusation unless you can prove that I am wrong.
The Pfizer BioNTech Covid vaccine being distributed in the UK starting yesterday does not use cells in the development of the vaccine. It is an mRNA vaccine. It uses genetically coded RNA. When injected in to the patient, the patient's cells will use this to create the spike protein which will then be targeted by the immune system.

You can verify this by Googling "how does the Pfizer BioNTech Covid vaccine work"

It is your turn to now concede that you were mistaken. You are not allowed to say "Yes it does.... Nanny Nanny Boo Boo..." This is not how debates work. :)
 
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The Pfizer BioNTech Covid vaccine being distributed in the UK starting yesterday does not use cells in the development of the vaccine. It is an mRNA vaccine. It uses genetically coded RNA. When injected in to the patient, the patient's cells will use this to create the spike protein which will then be targeted by the immune system.

You can verify this by Googling "how does the Pfizer BioNTech Covid vaccine work"

It is your turn to now concede that you were mistaken. You are not allowed to say "Yes it does.... Nanny Nanny Boo Boo..." This is not how debates work. :)
Hello Scribe

Again, I ask, how do you know that it is a false accusation that aborted fetal tissue cells are one of the ingredients in the COVID-19 vaccine?

What makes you so certain that it is a false accusation?

Do you work for Pfizer or any other pharmaceutical company?

Are you one of the scientists currently involved in the manufacture of the COVID-19 vaccine?
 

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The Pfizer BioNTech Covid vaccine being distributed in the UK starting yesterday does not use cells in the development of the vaccine. It is an mRNA vaccine. It uses genetically coded RNA. When injected in to the patient, the patient's cells will use this to create the spike protein which will then be targeted by the immune system.

You can verify this by Googling "how does the Pfizer BioNTech Covid vaccine work"

It is your turn to now concede that you were mistaken. You are not allowed to say "Yes it does.... Nanny Nanny Boo Boo..." This is not how debates work. :)

But then were still faced with the vaccines that I mentioned that did use them we've already been given and back to the mRNA stain PennEdd mentioned in his last post...
 

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Hello Scribe

Again, I ask, how do you know that it is a false accusation that aborted fetal tissue cells are one of the ingredients in the COVID-19 vaccine?

What makes you so certain that it is a false accusation?

Do you work for Pfizer or any other pharmaceutical company?

Are you one of the scientists currently involved in the manufacture of the COVID-19 vaccine?

These five do be careful which one you take https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/abortion-opponents-protest-covid-19-vaccines-use-fetal-cells
 
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Thanks for this. Good information.

And the solution is to not take any of those five as a protest to creating vaccines by using the aborted fetus cells from the two babies in the 1960s that have been continuously cloned for this use.

For any vaccine that uses cells in the development process (none inject them into the patient) do not use vaccines that use the two infants that were aborted from the 60s instead look for those that were developed with "ethically derived cells" This has been the solution for a while now.

The First COVID vaccines coming soon to the USA are mRNA vaccines. They don't use cells at all. It is new technology.
Read about the vaccine in question before getting it, then you can know.
 
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Y’all really need to understand how mRNA “vaccines” are designed and executed: You’re not going to like it
Posted on DECEMBER 7, 2020
But first, can we agree on the definition of “vaccine?” Assume that we are talking about a totally legit traditional vaccine, one that has been around for years and is safe and effective. Fundamentally, what is it? Can we agree that a vaccine is a substance made from a weakened or dead version of the pathogen which is introduced into the bloodstream to induce an immune response?
Okay.
So now understand this: mRNA “vaccines” are not vaccines… No. What we are dealing with here is bio-technology and bio-engineering. In short, it is genetic modification. Imagine the exuberance of the Luciferian Gates-funded pharmas, not to mention Gates himself, in their pursuit of being God.
So how does it work? When cells divide, the strands of DNA are replicated, and the Messenger RNA (mRNA) play a vital role in processes known as Transcription and Translation. Learn about this
HERE. This thing Moderna/Pfizer/Gates have come up with is a synthetic strand of mRNA, which penetrates the membrane of healthy human cells and hijacks the normal replication process. The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus, the so-called ‘spike protein.’ This molecule will be recognized as a pathogen, provoking an immune response.
The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus. You read that correctly. The following is from the first paragraph of the wiki entry on this technology:
An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a new type of vaccine that transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into human cells. Once inside the cells, the RNA functions as mRNA, reprogramming the cells to make the foreign protein that would normally be produced by the pathogen (e.g. a virus)… These protein molecules then stimulate an adaptive immune response that teaches the body to destroy any pathogen… The mRNA molecule is coated with a drug delivery vehicle, usually PEGylatedlipid nanoparticles,[2] to protect the fragile mRNA strands, and aid their absorption into the human cells.[3][4]
…little is known about the medium and longer-term side effects[8]
If you go to wiki HERE and click on View History at the top of the page, then scroll down and click Oldest, that this article was first created on 17 February 2020. How fresh. You will also note that as recently as January 2020, this technology was not even deemed experimental yet. It was deemed theoretical. Wow.
So many questions. Will the Organic Vegan Non-GMO crowd boycott this biotech, which effectively turns every human who takes it into a walking GMO? I sure hate when logic gets in the way of healthcare decisions. What happens if the warp-speed rush to polish off the biotech results in some of the mRNA sequencing being off, by just a little? I keep thinking of poor Jeff Goldblum in The Fly.
I also keep thinking of all the fruitless decades of trying to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with countless mice, cats, and kids who died in the trials. You didn’t know about that? Yes, the problem is that these “vaccines” have a tendency to enhance uptake of the pathogen. This effect is called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), and I posted a long annotated explanation of this problem HERE. Bottom line, this is the reason why there has never been any sort of coronavirus vaccine. But somehow they found one in ten months?
What about pregnancy, lactation, and the long-term fertility of genetically modified mommies? Ohhh… they don’t want to go there. You want to know how mRNA biotech might interfere with a developing baby, a breastfeeding baby, or mom’s chances of ever getting pregnant again? Too bad, since they purposely avoided trialing any of that, not even in mice. No need to disappear the evidence if no evidence was produced. Then when Pfizer got the UK approval, they issued TEN PAGES of splaining, warnings, disclaimers, etc. HERE
Bill Gates is on video explaining that he wants to reduce world population by 90%, but I’m the crackpot for suggesting that a vaccine that operates via synthetic genetics might pose fertility risks. Yup.
Please start explaining this stuff to friends and family.
:ROFL: Jeff Goldblum in the Fly!!!
 
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:ROFL: Jeff Goldblum in the Fly!!!
Y’all really need to understand how mRNA “vaccines” are designed and executed: You’re not going to like it
Posted on DECEMBER 7, 2020
But first, can we agree on the definition of “vaccine?” Assume that we are talking about a totally legit traditional vaccine, one that has been around for years and is safe and effective. Fundamentally, what is it? Can we agree that a vaccine is a substance made from a weakened or dead version of the pathogen which is introduced into the bloodstream to induce an immune response?
Okay.
So now understand this: mRNA “vaccines” are not vaccines… No. What we are dealing with here is bio-technology and bio-engineering. In short, it is genetic modification. Imagine the exuberance of the Luciferian Gates-funded pharmas, not to mention Gates himself, in their pursuit of being God.
So how does it work? When cells divide, the strands of DNA are replicated, and the Messenger RNA (mRNA) play a vital role in processes known as Transcription and Translation. Learn about this
HERE. This thing Moderna/Pfizer/Gates have come up with is a synthetic strand of mRNA, which penetrates the membrane of healthy human cells and hijacks the normal replication process. The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus, the so-called ‘spike protein.’ This molecule will be recognized as a pathogen, provoking an immune response.
The previously healthy human cell will now be transformed to produce a fragment of the actual virus. You read that correctly. The following is from the first paragraph of the wiki entry on this technology:
An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a new type of vaccine that transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into human cells. Once inside the cells, the RNA functions as mRNA, reprogramming the cells to make the foreign protein that would normally be produced by the pathogen (e.g. a virus)… These protein molecules then stimulate an adaptive immune response that teaches the body to destroy any pathogen… The mRNA molecule is coated with a drug delivery vehicle, usually PEGylatedlipid nanoparticles,[2] to protect the fragile mRNA strands, and aid their absorption into the human cells.[3][4]
…little is known about the medium and longer-term side effects[8]
If you go to wiki HERE and click on View History at the top of the page, then scroll down and click Oldest, that this article was first created on 17 February 2020. How fresh. You will also note that as recently as January 2020, this technology was not even deemed experimental yet. It was deemed theoretical. Wow.
So many questions. Will the Organic Vegan Non-GMO crowd boycott this biotech, which effectively turns every human who takes it into a walking GMO? I sure hate when logic gets in the way of healthcare decisions. What happens if the warp-speed rush to polish off the biotech results in some of the mRNA sequencing being off, by just a little? I keep thinking of poor Jeff Goldblum in The Fly.
I also keep thinking of all the fruitless decades of trying to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with countless mice, cats, and kids who died in the trials. You didn’t know about that? Yes, the problem is that these “vaccines” have a tendency to enhance uptake of the pathogen. This effect is called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), and I posted a long annotated explanation of this problem HERE. Bottom line, this is the reason why there has never been any sort of coronavirus vaccine. But somehow they found one in ten months?
What about pregnancy, lactation, and the long-term fertility of genetically modified mommies? Ohhh… they don’t want to go there. You want to know how mRNA biotech might interfere with a developing baby, a breastfeeding baby, or mom’s chances of ever getting pregnant again? Too bad, since they purposely avoided trialing any of that, not even in mice. No need to disappear the evidence if no evidence was produced. Then when Pfizer got the UK approval, they issued TEN PAGES of splaining, warnings, disclaimers, etc. HERE
Bill Gates is on video explaining that he wants to reduce world population by 90%, but I’m the crackpot for suggesting that a vaccine that operates via synthetic genetics might pose fertility risks. Yup.
Please start explaining this stuff to friends and family.
It is not quite the scary stuff the antivaxxer spins it as, but it is not your fathers vaccine. It is new technology but not NEVER befrore used technology. It has cured melanoma cancer in some patients.

It is so much more advanced and so much better than the old method of vaccines. It is a whole new world and I am excited about it. The cure for cancer might very well be an mRNA vaccine custom made for an individual.
This has already happened for melanoma Cancer patients who were cured with an mRNA vaccine designed specifically for their particular melanoma cancer cells.
But you notice the author did not share a whisper of that with you did he? That's because he is intellectually dishonest as all antivaxxers are.
If mRNA does become the cure for cancers there will be conspiracy theorist and antivaxxers that will tell you to die with cancer instead.
 

iamsoandso

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Thanks for this. Good information.

And the solution is to not take any of those five as a protest to creating vaccines by using the aborted fetus cells from the two babies in the 1960s that have been continuously cloned for this use.

For any vaccine that uses cells in the development process (none inject them into the patient) do not use vaccines that use the two infants that were aborted from the 60s instead look for those that were developed with "ethically derived cells" This has been the solution for a while now.

The First COVID vaccines coming soon to the USA are mRNA vaccines. They don't use cells at all. It is new technology.
Read about the vaccine in question before getting it, then you can know.

Your welcome,,,

Do you know what the messenger RNA in the vaccine will do in long term to those who take it? Most of us are not molecular biologist and so pre-RNA, muture-RNA,transfer-RNA and such would be beyond most of our abilities to understand.
 
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Your welcome,,,

Do you know what the messenger RNA in the vaccine will do in long term to those who take it? Most of us are not molecular biologist and so pre-RNA, muture-RNA,transfer-RNA and such would be beyond most of our abilities to understand.
The mRNA breaks down and is eliminated soon after it is used by the cells.

I can only know what I read from the scientist creating the documentation to explain it to us.

40,000 tested is nice but I can understand why many might want to wait until a few million receive it first just in case a one out of a million severe adverse reaction occurs that did not show up in the 40K. Trust me the whole world will know about it if it does.

You won't have to find out about it on "conspiracies and antivaxxers are us.com"
 

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The mRNA breaks down and is eliminated soon after it is used by the cells.

I can only know what I read from the scientist creating the documentation to explain it to us.

40,000 tested is nice but I can understand why many might want to wait until a few million receive it first just in case a one out of a million severe adverse reaction occurs that did not show up in the 40K. Trust me the whole world will know about it if it does.

You won't have to find out about it on "conspiracies and antivaxxers are us.com"

Yes I agree this at first is eliminated by your body. ,Whats pre,mature, transfer ect. (a host of others) don't. This type of science is "new" https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html and their not sure their own selves at this time. It is also the same molecular type approach(transcription) that MD Anderson and others have researched to convince your immune system to recognize cancer as something it needs to combat https://www.mdanderson.org/research...for-rna-interference-and-non-coding-rnas.html ... Which if you consider the approach used in these type vaccines should cause anyone to ponder it's long term transfer of RNA.
 
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Hello Scribe

Again, I ask, how do you know that it is a false accusation that aborted fetal tissue cells are one of the ingredients in the COVID-19 vaccine?

What makes you so certain that it is a false accusation?

Do you work for Pfizer or any other pharmaceutical company?

Are you one of the scientists currently involved in the manufacture of the COVID-19 vaccine?

I can read from credible sources.

Don't you think you can find credible sources to trust about how mRNA works without having to be one of the immunologists yourself?
 
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Yes I agree this at first is eliminated by your body. ,Whats pre,mature, transfer ect. (a host of others) don't. This type of science is "new" https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html and their not sure their own selves at this time. It is also the same molecular type approach(transcription) that MD Anderson and others have researched to convince your immune system to recognize cancer as something it needs to combat https://www.mdanderson.org/research...for-rna-interference-and-non-coding-rnas.html ... Which if you consider the approach used in these type vaccines should cause anyone to ponder it's long term transfer of RNA.
To discover what risks are related to mRNA vaccines I would try researching what the FDA is analyzing with their approval reviews one would probably discover a long list of theoretical potential risks. These potential risks would be all of the possible risks that have been brought up by all of the scientist working in this field. Those risks that they think have a high or low probability would be documented, tested, and watched for.

Medical science is new if you consider we did not know what a virus was before 1892. That is almost 1900.
That mRNA is new does not scare me. I say "about time" we were due for a breakthrough. I expect many more in my own lifetime.

We just started making progress between 1920-1940 with viruses. Isn't that AMAZING? We were still working with our primitive technology and now we are having breakthroughs and improving.

Amazing cures for diseases might be just around the corner, and when they are discovered people will say "Its' new. How can we trust it?" And the answer is we keep on testing and improving and try to avoid any risks. Nothing is perfect but we keep fighting the fight to subdue the hostile forces of nature that try to kill us.
 
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