ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Hevosmies

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Also, there are three vaccines proven 90 percent effective in 3 phase testing and about to be submitted for approval, and more coming after them. Two are mRNA vaccines but the other is more like the traditional technology and uses the method of growing virus cultures. The mind altering theory cannot be about all of them. My guess is that it is an attempt to discredit mRNA.

If I had the choice to take the traditional vaccine method or the mRNA method I would have a hard time deciding. I like what I read about mRNA but the fact that it is new technology makes me hesitate. My natural reaction is to wait for a few years. If the mRNA is available to me first and the traditional vaccine is not out yet I will take the mRNA because I want to get protection ASAP.

I see the risk of becoming severely ill with COVID as much greater statistically right now. I am a realist.
Bro

The people who have been vaccinated, and the people who make the vaccines always put up the SIDE EFFECTS. Even regular flu shots have those. YOu can go up and read the side effects.

I DID

Id rather get covid than the vaccine. THE COVID is way safer than the vaccine, the vaccine is a BIG UNKNOWN, we dont know what its gonna do in the future as its only been whipped up in a few months now. For covid we already have people since february who had it and are just a-okay now. I personally know 6 people who had it, ALL ARE OK. The survival rate for Covid-19 is 99% so you dont really need to get that protection bro, just get the covid and odds are, you will be just fine

THE MEDIA loves showing you the people at the ER on tubes, usually they show you some fit athletic guy in his prime to make people shook. YEAH that does happen, but odds are so slim that I wouldnt be too shook.
 

SoulWeaver

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If a post is a lie, you can usually figure that out without a fact checking site. It is so easy that I usually assume that the person behind passing it on Wants it to be true and is ignoring that it is a lie and does not want to hear anything contrary.
Right... hence there is no need for fact checkers we are all adult people and can research for ourselves. And the person who doesn't want to research will just swallow anything they want to hear anyway. So, fact checkers are pointless.
 

Hevosmies

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I used to think "Truthers" were wackadoodles, but I have come to believe that there's more Truth to Truthers, than there is from the Government.
Same!

Look, you dont gotta do much research to figure out, we are being governed by some EVIL EVIL people. People you CANNOT TRUST. Way worse than your average criminal in jail.

One quick example: George Bush, he was part of the SKULL N BONES secret society. Now, if you look up the initiations and rites of this crew, its CLEAR that this is utterly demonic and sick, and for anyone who is easily frazzled, i wouldnt recommend you check it out even, take my word for it, its demonic and evil to the core.

There are many of these societies, all secretive and all with influental members, it is scary to think that these are the people who make the decisions and pull the strings, JUST THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, why would people like this be for the common good?

Then you think about the CENSORSHIP FB/twitter and all these social media platforms use, WHY are they censoring conservative news outlets?
 

SoulWeaver

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Fainting (Syncope) after Vaccination
Questions and Concerns
Fainting, also called syncope, is a temporary loss of consciousness caused by a decreased blood flow to the brain. Although fainting has a variety of possible causes, it is usually triggered by pain or anxiety. Sometimes people faint after vaccination. People who faint might fall and injure themselves if they are not sitting or lying down at the time that they lose consciousness. Sometimes when people faint, their muscles twitch and their bodies make jerking movements; this can sometimes be confused with seizures but are not actual seizures.
Fainting can happen after many types of vaccinations.
Fainting can be triggered by many types of medical procedures. In fact, CDC has received reports of people fainting after nearly all vaccines. Fainting after getting a vaccine is most commonly reported after three vaccines given to adolescents: HPV, MCV4, and Tdap. Because the ingredients of these three vaccines are different, yet fainting is seen with all of them, scientists think that fainting is due to the vaccination process and not to the vaccines themselves. However, there is not yet a definite answer about whether an ingredient of the vaccines is responsible for the fainting or if adolescents are simply more likely than children or adults to experience fainting.
About 3% of men and 3.5% of women report fainting at least once during their lifetimes, but it is not known just how often fainting happens after vaccination. Because fainting usually has no lasting effects, it is hard to study using medical records-based systems. However, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), receives many reports of syncope each year, and many more are likely to go unreported.
Fainting can be common among adolescents after vaccination.
Reports from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) shows that fainting after vaccinations is common in adolescents. One study of VAERS reports found that 62% of syncope reports were among adolescents 11 to 18 years old. However, because syncope may not always be reported, VAERS data cannot be used to determine how often fainting happens after vaccination.
Falls after fainting can cause injuries.
Fainting itself is generally not serious, but harm from related falls or other accidents can cause injury. The main concern is head injury. In a study of syncope-related VAERS reports, 7% of the fainting reports were coded as serious; 12% of these involved head injuries. Although fainting itself might or might not be preventable, it is important to prevent injuries when people do faint.
Fainting and related injuries after immunization can be prevented.
Giving patients a beverage, a snack, or some reassurance about the procedure has been shown to prevent some fainting. Studies are being done to look more into these strategies. However, many falls due to fainting can be prevented by having the patient sit or lie down. For this reason, experts recommend having patients sit in a chair or lay down when they receive a vaccination. In addition, patients should be observed for 15 minutes after vaccination.
If a patient does faint after a vaccination, she or he should be observed by medical personnel until she or he regains consciousness so that further treatment needs can be determined. If fainting happens outside the medical setting and the patient does not recover immediately, contact local emergency medical services. Patients who faint after vaccination generally recover within a few minutes.
Never in my life have I heard of people fainting after vaccination, nor did I ever witness anyone fainting. I have vasovagal syncope myself, since I was very young. Never fainted after a vaccine.
 

Hevosmies

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ARE THOSE THINGS REAL? Are those actual real humans? OR is that from some scifi movie they plugged in there? WOW. Please answer this and fast cause I gotta know right now im going crazy over this.
 

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My cousin's family is suffering it's second round of covid19. His mother-in-law and three of his wife's siblings have tested positive, and two are now in the hospital. His mother-in-law had the covid19 early in the summer. She was very ill for almost three weeks. She had three negative tests, stayed in isolation for 14 days, and returned to work. Last weekend, she was admitted to the hospital with severe respiratory problems. Later in the day she tested positive for the covid19. She is still in serious condition, and still in the hospital.

His brother-in-law is in the hospital with respiratory problems. This is also his second bout with the covid19.

As of this morning my cousin still tests negative. His wife and children are still awaiting results.

The entire family thought masks were a waste of time. It took this bout to convince them otherwise.

I also have a question for those who claim that using masks cause you to breathe in CO2. I have tried to do it, but I always get fresh air every time I breathe through my mask. Please explain how you breathe in CO2?
 

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Never in my life have I heard of people fainting after vaccination, nor did I ever witness anyone fainting. I have vasovagal syncope myself, since I was very young. Never fainted after a vaccine.
I have. Several times.
 

SoulWeaver

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I have. Several times.
I'm just saying it's not suddenly that common/usual like people rush to present it because if it was of all the vaccines I'd have seen it at least once. I'm certain it's possible and can happen.
 

Genipher

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Fainting (Syncope) after Vaccination
Questions and Concerns
Fainting, also called syncope, is a temporary loss of consciousness caused by a decreased blood flow to the brain. Although fainting has a variety of possible causes, it is usually triggered by pain or anxiety. Sometimes people faint after vaccination. People who faint might fall and injure themselves if they are not sitting or lying down at the time that they lose consciousness. Sometimes when people faint, their muscles twitch and their bodies make jerking movements; this can sometimes be confused with seizures but are not actual seizures.
Fainting can happen after many types of vaccinations.
Fainting can be triggered by many types of medical procedures. In fact, CDC has received reports of people fainting after nearly all vaccines. Fainting after getting a vaccine is most commonly reported after three vaccines given to adolescents: HPV, MCV4, and Tdap. Because the ingredients of these three vaccines are different, yet fainting is seen with all of them, scientists think that fainting is due to the vaccination process and not to the vaccines themselves. However, there is not yet a definite answer about whether an ingredient of the vaccines is responsible for the fainting or if adolescents are simply more likely than children or adults to experience fainting.
About 3% of men and 3.5% of women report fainting at least once during their lifetimes, but it is not known just how often fainting happens after vaccination. Because fainting usually has no lasting effects, it is hard to study using medical records-based systems. However, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), receives many reports of syncope each year, and many more are likely to go unreported.
Fainting can be common among adolescents after vaccination.
Reports from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) shows that fainting after vaccinations is common in adolescents. One study of VAERS reports found that 62% of syncope reports were among adolescents 11 to 18 years old. However, because syncope may not always be reported, VAERS data cannot be used to determine how often fainting happens after vaccination.
Falls after fainting can cause injuries.
Fainting itself is generally not serious, but harm from related falls or other accidents can cause injury. The main concern is head injury. In a study of syncope-related VAERS reports, 7% of the fainting reports were coded as serious; 12% of these involved head injuries. Although fainting itself might or might not be preventable, it is important to prevent injuries when people do faint.
Fainting and related injuries after immunization can be prevented.
Giving patients a beverage, a snack, or some reassurance about the procedure has been shown to prevent some fainting. Studies are being done to look more into these strategies. However, many falls due to fainting can be prevented by having the patient sit or lie down. For this reason, experts recommend having patients sit in a chair or lay down when they receive a vaccination. In addition, patients should be observed for 15 minutes after vaccination.
If a patient does faint after a vaccination, she or he should be observed by medical personnel until she or he regains consciousness so that further treatment needs can be determined. If fainting happens outside the medical setting and the patient does not recover immediately, contact local emergency medical services. Patients who faint after vaccination generally recover within a few minutes.
"However, there is not yet a definite answer about whether an ingredient of the vaccines is responsible for the fainting or if adolescents are simply more likely than children or adults to experience fainting."

So it very well could be the vaccine that causes the fainting reaction.
 
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"However, there is not yet a definite answer about whether an ingredient of the vaccines is responsible for the fainting or if adolescents are simply more likely than children or adults to experience fainting."

So it very well could be the vaccine that causes the fainting reaction.
It's a non issue to me. It will require something more than a one in 30,000 fainter to out weigh the number of adverse affects of COVID 19,
 
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Same!

Look, you dont gotta do much research to figure out, we are being governed by some EVIL EVIL people. People you CANNOT TRUST. Way worse than your average criminal in jail.

One quick example: George Bush, he was part of the SKULL N BONES secret society. Now, if you look up the initiations and rites of this crew, its CLEAR that this is utterly demonic and sick, and for anyone who is easily frazzled, i wouldnt recommend you check it out even, take my word for it, its demonic and evil to the core.

There are many of these societies, all secretive and all with influental members, it is scary to think that these are the people who make the decisions and pull the strings, JUST THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, why would people like this be for the common good?

Then you think about the CENSORSHIP FB/twitter and all these social media platforms use, WHY are they censoring conservative news outlets?
I liked the both Bush presidents and look forward to the next Bush president.
 

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It's a non issue to me. It will require something more than a one in 30,000 fainter to out weigh the number of adverse affects of COVID 19,
Fainting, allergic reactions, neurological problems, paralysis, death...Yes, I think many of us have figured out that you'll ignore all the red flags.
 
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Fainting, allergic reactions, neurological problems, paralysis, death...Yes, I think many of us have figured out that you'll ignore all the red flags.
Not ignore. Analyze and conclude. I read about every report and make conclusions based on what I read. I use sound logic and realism. Ignoring is what people do when they decide that CDC is not a credible source and refuse to read information or sources cited from the CDC site. That is ignoring.

I even read the data presented by the antivaxxers. I don't ignore them. I reject them for not winning the debate. If they present something factual I agree with it. So far nothing that an antivaxxer has presented that contradicted the CDC sources was credible to me. As a matter of fact I am getting to the point now that I am realizing that there ARE NOT two sides to this vaccine debate. Vaccines are safe, effective and do not cause harm. We figured out how to test properly decades ago.
 

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Not ignore. Analyze and conclude. I read about every report and make conclusions based on what I read. I use sound logic and realism. Ignoring is what people do when they decide that CDC is not a credible source and refuse to read information or sources cited from the CDC site. That is ignoring.

I even read the data presented by the antivaxxers. I don't ignore them. I reject them for not winning the debate. If they present something factual I agree with it. So far nothing that an antivaxxer has presented that contradicted the CDC sources was credible to me. As a matter of fact I am getting to the point now that I am realizing that there ARE NOT two sides to this vaccine debate. Vaccines are safe, effective and do not cause harm. We figured out how to test properly decades ago.
That is a pretty absolute statement. VAERS exists for a reason. Even the Supreme Court said that vaccines were "unavoidably unsafe".
Nothing can be 100% safe.
 
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Bro

The people who have been vaccinated, and the people who make the vaccines always put up the SIDE EFFECTS. Even regular flu shots have those. YOu can go up and read the side effects.

I DID

Id rather get covid than the vaccine. THE COVID is way safer than the vaccine, the vaccine is a BIG UNKNOWN, we dont know what its gonna do in the future as its only been whipped up in a few months now. For covid we already have people since february who had it and are just a-okay now. I personally know 6 people who had it, ALL ARE OK. The survival rate for Covid-19 is 99% so you dont really need to get that protection bro, just get the covid and odds are, you will be just fine

THE MEDIA loves showing you the people at the ER on tubes, usually they show you some fit athletic guy in his prime to make people shook. YEAH that does happen, but odds are so slim that I wouldn't be too shook.
That was an old post of mine. I have kept up with it since then and know what the safety tests revealed. I completely disagree with your logic. I mean you have a right to it and I understand what you said, but there is no way that the Vaccine is worse than getting sick with COVID. Your chances of having a severe reacting to COVID 19 is much greater than any severe reaction to the vaccines according to the 40K safety testing.
I agree that long term issues with mRNA sounds like a logical concern because it is new. I am not concerned based on what I have read about how it works but I concede that it is a legitimate logical concern.

I do appreciate how we can discuss this on CC without it turning into hatefulness toward one another.
 
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That is a pretty absolute statement. VAERS exists for a reason. Even the Supreme Court said that vaccines were "unavoidably unsafe".
Nothing can be 100% safe.
I understand that statement. It does not undermine the value of vaccines at all.
 

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Google is controlled information, also other search engines. I have been switching over to STARTPAGE.COM, because it seems to be free from big brother control. Try it!
The information you get from startpage.com comes from google. Only, they [say that they] prevent google from seeing who placed the search request.

They simply operate as a relay for the search request and information reply.
 

GaryA

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The information you get from startpage.com comes from google. Only, they [say that they] prevent google from seeing who placed the search request.

They simply operate as a relay for the search request and information reply.
Try duckduckgo.com - they have their own database. And, I have seen things show up on there that did/would not show up on google.
 
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