ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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SophieT

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You're not very good at debating points. The study has nothing to do with maiming anyone. What could you possibly be referring to now? A different claim, a different article? A different study? I did not see it presented, maybe I missed the post. Did you post something about vaccines maiming children in Africa? Can you point me to it or repost it so that I can fact check it. I have no idea who is getting maimed or where.

Oh. Is that what you call what you do? Good you told us. Otherwise we might have thought you were spinning off the page.

I can't take you seriously.
 
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Watch the Covid worshippers fumble, bumble, stumble, to explain away THIS:

ER nurse tests positive for COVID-19 eight days after receiving vaccine
https://www.10news.com/news/local-n...r-covid-19-eight-days-after-receiving-vaccine

I cannot fathom how someone can dislike or disagree with the truth. I mean just hide in your cupboard or something.
Of course even a 99% effectiveness will produce that 1% who just cannot their stuff together. He must be part of that 1%.

It's not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone was exposed," said Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist with Family Health Centers of San Diego. He serves on the clinical advisory panel for the county’s vaccine rollout.

He points out, it is possible Matthew was infected before receiving the vaccine, as the incubation period may be as much as two weeks. Dr. Ramers says if Matthew did contract it after the vaccine, it’s still in line with what we know.


In other news, this time next year should be more comprehensive.
 
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from the virus alone but the complications that arise from the virus and so your insistence that the numbers are a hoax is misinformation.
Please consult something besides CBC. The numbers have been quite exaggerated for filthy lucre if nothing else.

It is now estimated at about 40% deaths not actually caused by Covid. Your insistence otherwise, will become even sillier down the road. As one doctor put it, three gunshot wounds to the chest is not Covid related. $77,000.00 per patient once a hospital reaches a certain number.

Do dah day.
 

Ahwatukee

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Please consult something besides CBC. The numbers have been quite exaggerated for filthy lucre if nothing else.

It is now estimated at about 40% deaths not actually caused by Covid. Your insistence otherwise, will become even sillier down the road. As one doctor put it, three gunshot wounds to the chest is not Covid related. $77,000.00 per patient once a hospital reaches a certain number.

Do dah day.
I wish that everyone understood that the covid-19 numbers have been exaggerated from the very beginning and continue to be so. And the main reasons for this is the democratic agenda. And the incentive for the hospitals is a 20% bonus per each covid-19 death. Money and power are always the driving force. Check out the information below:

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More evidence the number of COVID-19 deaths is greatly exaggerated

Specifically, of the approximately 220,000 COVID-19 deaths listed so far, almost 94% were likely not caused exclusively by COVID-19, but by other chronic illnesses. While many of these other maladies, such as a variety of respiratory illnesses, probably worked closely in conjunction with the coronavirus to kill the patient, other illnesses were clearly the real cause of death. For example, the CDC says the 51,000 of today’s 218,000 COVID-19 deaths were caused by heart attacks or heart failure, not COVID-19.

If we subtract these coronary deaths, we are left with about 167,000 COVID-19 deaths. The CDC notes that of these, 88,000 were probably caused not by the coronavirus but by the flu and pneumonia. Hospitals listed them as COVID-19 deaths because the CARES act passed by Congress in the spring gives those hospitals a 20% bonus if they claim the death was COVID-19. This fact might also explain the almost complete lack of flu deaths this year, as listed by hospitals.

Based on this data, it appears that the coronavirus probably caused about 79,000 deaths, on top of the 88,000 flu and pneumonia deaths this year. These Wuhan virus deaths are probably excess deaths this year, but with an average age of 78 the deaths are still occurring almost exclusively among the aged sick, rather than the general population. For everyone else, COVID-19 remains relatively harmless, like the flu.

Interestingly, the CDC recently reported that in 2020 the total number of excess deaths is presently estimated at 300,000. Most significantly, the CDC also stated that

[As of October 3rd], the report notes only 198,081 of those deaths are directly attributed to COVID-19. So over one-third of excess deaths so far this year have not been directly associated with COVID-19.​

The Scream by Edvard Munch

These numbers reasonably match with the numbers above. They also suggest strongly that the lock downs and house arrests and mask mandates might very well be causing many other unnecessary excess deaths, such as from suicides. The lock downs have also caused many unneeded deaths because patients did not get treatment for other illnesses when they should, either because hospitals were not allowed to provide them service (because of government edict) or because the patients were afraid to go to the hospital.

All told, the data continues to suggest that the panic over COVID-19 did more harm than good, especially because the early data, in March, was consistent with what we know now. Even then the data said the virus would be dangerous only to the elderly sick, but harmless to the young and healthy, just like the flu. Had our political and academic class been interested in that data, instead of the failed models they love to bow to, they would have allowed society to largely go on with life as normal, while instituting measures specifically aimed at protecting the elderly sick.

Instead, they did the exact opposite, and the evidence now tells us that those failed policies of panic killed many more people, for absolutely no reason.

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If we subtract these coronary deaths, we are left with about 167,000 COVID-19 deaths. The CDC notes that of these, 88,000 were probably caused not by the coronavirus but by the flu and pneumonia. Hospitals listed them as COVID-19 deaths because the CARES act passed by Congress in the spring gives those hospitals a 20% bonus if they claim the death was COVID-19. This fact might also explain the almost complete lack of flu deaths this year, as listed by hospitals.
Flu deaths are actually higher in numbers for past years, but this year, we have the 'rolled into Covid' flu deaths. What a deceitful and not to be believed gang of thugs. People are in fear and while we should understand that Covid apparently is real, it is not the Doomsday device of the devil or God's Apocalypse Now scenario.

As has been said, let no good crisis go to waste. And indeed, the Faucis and WHO and CDC have used it to manipulate a large segment of the populace and where they left off, the leftist mayors took over along with the ever popular CA and NY govs among others.

Personally, I think it is going to explode. People are being damaged permanently and not by Covid.


These numbers reasonably match with the numbers above. They also suggest strongly that the lock downs and house arrests and mask mandates might very well be causing many other unnecessary excess deaths, such as from suicides. The lock downs have also caused many unneeded deaths because patients did not get treatment for other illnesses when they should, either because hospitals were not allowed to provide them service (because of government edict) or because the patients were afraid to go to the hospital.
So very under reported if at all.
 
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All told, the data continues to suggest that the panic over COVID-19 did more harm than good, especially because the early data, in March, was consistent with what we know now. Even then the data said the virus would be dangerous only to the elderly sick, but harmless to the young and healthy, just like the flu. Had our political and academic class been interested in that data, instead of the failed models they love to bow to, they would have allowed society to largely go on with life as normal, while instituting measures specifically aimed at protecting the elderly sick.

Instead, they did the exact opposite, and the evidence now tells us that those failed policies of panic killed many more people, for absolutely no reason.
Everyone should have to memorize the above and post it all around their house.
 

Ahwatukee

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Flu deaths are actually higher in numbers for past years, but this year, we have the 'rolled into Covid' flu deaths. What a deceitful and not to be believed gang of thugs. People are in fear and while we should understand that Covid apparently is real, it is not the Doomsday device of the devil or God's Apocalypse Now scenario.

As has been said, let no good crisis go to waste. And indeed, the Faucis and WHO and CDC have used it to manipulate a large segment of the populace and where they left off, the leftist mayors took over along with the ever popular CA and NY govs among others.

Personally, I think it is going to explode. People are being damaged permanently and not by Covid.
Agreed! I believe that this was all done by the democrats behind the scenes. The couldn't impeach Trump, so they used the Corona virus for fear and control. I believe that in collusion with the hospital admins and the democratic based media, the covid numbers were and continue to be greatly exaggerated. And what did they do? They used it to blame Trump!

I can see what is going to happen: If Biden takes over as president, the democrats will put the word out to the hospital admins to stop the exaggeration of the covid cases and deaths and also cutting off their bonuses, which will make it appear as though Biden and his team got the pandemic under control, making him the hero. What a sham! These people have no scruples, no sense of fair play. They are liars and deceivers, completely corrupt, all in the name of politics. They remind me of what Jesus said about Satan, that when He lies, he is speaking in his native language. The reason that the fear and control works, is because the other part of the population who have fallen for all of this.

For the vast majority, Covid-19 is the equivalent to a mild flu, but the Dem's in collusion with the media and hospitals, turned it into the bubonic plague! The result being the loss of many businesses and jobs for many. They wouldn't have taken all of these steps for the flu, so why treat covid any different? They remind me of 'the woman who rides the beast' except that the democrats rode covid, i.e. they used it and continue to use it for their purposes.

Oye Vey! Lord come quickly to get your church!
 

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I don't know what to cook for dinner. Anyone have any ideas for a combination of meat and vegetables...?
Chili! I love chili, it might the healthiest dish ever. Maybe not, but maybe top 10. So good!
 
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I wish that everyone understood that the covid-19 numbers have been exaggerated from the very beginning and continue to be so. And the main reasons for this is the democratic agenda. And the incentive for the hospitals is a 20% bonus per each covid-19 death. Money and power are always the driving force. Check out the information below:

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More evidence the number of COVID-19 deaths is greatly exaggerated

Specifically, of the approximately 220,000 COVID-19 deaths listed so far, almost 94% were likely not caused exclusively by COVID-19, but by other chronic illnesses. While many of these other maladies, such as a variety of respiratory illnesses, probably worked closely in conjunction with the coronavirus to kill the patient, other illnesses were clearly the real cause of death. For example, the CDC says the 51,000 of today’s 218,000 COVID-19 deaths were caused by heart attacks or heart failure, not COVID-19.

If we subtract these coronary deaths, we are left with about 167,000 COVID-19 deaths. The CDC notes that of these, 88,000 were probably caused not by the coronavirus but by the flu and pneumonia. Hospitals listed them as COVID-19 deaths because the CARES act passed by Congress in the spring gives those hospitals a 20% bonus if they claim the death was COVID-19. This fact might also explain the almost complete lack of flu deaths this year, as listed by hospitals.

Based on this data, it appears that the coronavirus probably caused about 79,000 deaths, on top of the 88,000 flu and pneumonia deaths this year. These Wuhan virus deaths are probably excess deaths this year, but with an average age of 78 the deaths are still occurring almost exclusively among the aged sick, rather than the general population. For everyone else, COVID-19 remains relatively harmless, like the flu.

Interestingly, the CDC recently reported that in 2020 the total number of excess deaths is presently estimated at 300,000. Most significantly, the CDC also stated that

[As of October 3rd], the report notes only 198,081 of those deaths are directly attributed to COVID-19. So over one-third of excess deaths so far this year have not been directly associated with COVID-19.​

The Scream by Edvard Munch

These numbers reasonably match with the numbers above. They also suggest strongly that the lock downs and house arrests and mask mandates might very well be causing many other unnecessary excess deaths, such as from suicides. The lock downs have also caused many unneeded deaths because patients did not get treatment for other illnesses when they should, either because hospitals were not allowed to provide them service (because of government edict) or because the patients were afraid to go to the hospital.

All told, the data continues to suggest that the panic over COVID-19 did more harm than good, especially because the early data, in March, was consistent with what we know now. Even then the data said the virus would be dangerous only to the elderly sick, but harmless to the young and healthy, just like the flu. Had our political and academic class been interested in that data, instead of the failed models they love to bow to, they would have allowed society to largely go on with life as normal, while instituting measures specifically aimed at protecting the elderly sick.

Instead, they did the exact opposite, and the evidence now tells us that those failed policies of panic killed many more people, for absolutely no reason.

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This entire post is filled with so much misinformation it not possible to really tackle it all

while instituting measures specifically aimed at protecting the elderly sick.
This is impossible.

Firstly, it implies near-perfect risk stratification for individuals which cannot be done.

Secondly, it implies more of a binary category versus a gradient (in epidemiology speak, a categorical variable versus a continuous one).

Thirdly, it absolutely necessarily involves total separation of those 'compartments' of the population.

So tell me how does one accomplish this?
 

kinda

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I cannot fathom how someone can dislike or disagree with the truth. I mean just hide in your cupboard or something.
Of course even a 99% effectiveness will produce that 1% who just cannot their stuff together. He must be part of that 1%.

It's not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone was exposed," said Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist with Family Health Centers of San Diego. He serves on the clinical advisory panel for the county’s vaccine rollout.

He points out, it is possible Matthew was infected before receiving the vaccine, as the incubation period may be as much as two weeks. Dr. Ramers says if Matthew did contract it after the vaccine, it’s still in line with what we know.

In other news, this time next year should be more comprehensive.

That nurse that got palsy, after reportedly taking Covid Vaccine, broke my heart. I know God hears this and wonder HIS thoughts on the matter.

Revelation 12:4

He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”
 

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Chili! I love chili, it might the healthiest dish ever. Maybe not, but maybe top 10. So good!
You both suggested Mexican then. I didn't have all the ingredients I wanted but ended up being inspired in that direction and cooked beef. With onion and mushrooms and basil and garlic, I'd have added jalapeno too but we had them in a dish last night. I'm planning chili sometime this week.
 

kinda

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You both suggested Mexican then. I didn't have all the ingredients I wanted but ended up being inspired in that direction and cooked beef. With onion and mushrooms and basil and garlic, I'd have added jalapeno too but we had them in a dish last night. I'm planning chili sometime this week.

Your missing out, eating chili for dinner right now.

How did it turn out?
 

SoulWeaver

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Your missing out, eating chili for dinner right now.

How did it turn out?
It turned out good, I just resented not having tortillas. I cooked rice instead. We prefer to wrap it in tortillas with a bit of sour cream.
 

kinda

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It turned out good, I just resented not having tortillas. I cooked rice instead. We prefer to wrap it in tortillas with a bit of sour cream.
You sound like a good cook. Let me know how the chili comes out. I love chili, so good.

What's your favorite dish to make?
 

SoulWeaver

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You sound like a good cook. Let me know how the chili comes out. I love chili, so good.

What's your favorite dish to make?
I don't know, I'm a simple cook really... as soon as I start tripping out that I'm some Jamie Oliver, I start making stupid mistakes, like I will burn the food it's like instant karma, so I learned to be humble :LOL:
Most of the time I cook meat, vegetables, and some carb like rice or beans. So I rotate and make different combinations spicing it. I also like Instant Pot cooking and crisp it up with the lid in the end, it works really well with chicken it stays juicy but gets crisp... I prefer all-in-1 dishes (a stew, or risotto, etc.) but husband likes variety - so mostly I cook all as separate dishes now (meat, vegs...) and that's kind of fun too. I mostly sauté everything I cook because I like a bit of caramelization, but I also like low and slow cooking in pot or oven.
 

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I don't know, I'm a simple cook really... as soon as I start tripping out that I'm some Jamie Oliver, I start making stupid mistakes, like I will burn the food it's like instant karma, so I learned to be humble :LOL:
Most of the time I cook meat, vegetables, and some carb like rice or beans. So I rotate and make different combinations spicing it. I also like Instant Pot cooking and crisp it up with the lid in the end, it works really well with chicken it stays juicy but gets crisp... I prefer all-in-1 dishes (a stew, or risotto, etc.) but husband likes variety - so mostly I cook all as separate dishes now (meat, vegs...) and that's kind of fun too. I mostly sauté everything I cook because I like a bit of caramelization, but I also like low and slow cooking in pot or oven.
thank you for prepping and cooking diner.... this dishwasher is certainly comming in -
more than handy😊
 
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