Beyonce Demonic Possession at Super Bowl 2013 Exposed

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Married_Richenbrachen

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Re: The petty bickering and arguments MUST STOP!

And to everyone else here who is arguing and disrespecting each other...I think all of you need to apologize to Praus, this is HIS thread.
I'm sorry, Praus. :(
 
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I believe Praus and most of what he is mocked about.People generally mock what they don't understand,or don't want to see.They want to see as they choose.Once as a rebellious fool, I lived in the darkness.I was once a good friend to my current enemy,but Thank God, I was able to turn to the true Lord and master" Jesus Christ".
 
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Thank you Praus for your op. I found it interesting and thought provoking.
 

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i saw this in Youtube and thought it was an interesting watch, the video could have been edited but the husband of this dude JAYz is an open grave swallowing all that support him and die supporting him into hades.

so maybe and which is very likely, "can two walk together unless they agreed?" that they are both in it on the same acts..

now what puzzles me is that, are those posting against this in this thread uhmm against demon possession or posting this shows defamation of Beyonces character?

and if the first, you need to read your bible

if the second, the word of GOD does say to Speak the truth, and to rebuke the works of darkness.

Now the scripture does say that the flesh wars against the Spirit, and we know the fruit of the Spirit.

judge amongst yourself who is walking in the Spirit and who is walking in the flesh, i mean if these two war against each other then there must be two opposite mindsets(one of the spirit and the other of the flesh) battling it out for supremacy..!!..

Rebuke unbelievers, we show kindness, and gentleness with all tenderheartedness towards our brothers who we LOVE!!.

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 
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All he has is Internet gossip and you know what the Bible says about gossip.

I sure hope the guy in this video (and the rest of you who made accusations based on her looks) has proof of his accusations. He calls her a child murderer and a child molester? And so much more. If he is making assumptions, he is guilty of terrible slander. Defaming someone's character is no joke.
 
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i saw this in Youtube and thought it was an interesting watch, the video could have been edited but the husband of this dude JAYz is an open grave swallowing all that support him and die supporting him into hades.
Jay-Z is at the middle of many strange things.

Jay-Z Addresses the Illuminati Rumors (Again) – Flavorwire

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Analysts at AllHiphop.com have zeroed in on a facsimile of lyrics Hov has written for a track on his upcoming album, Magna Carta Holy Grail, to neither confirm nor rebuke the allegation that Shawn Corey Carter is a member of the Illuminati.

“Conspiracy theorist screaming Illuminati,” he raps on the track “Heaven,” “They can’t believe this much skill is in the human body."
 
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Re: The petty bickering and arguments MUST STOP!

If you're going to call yourself a Christian, THEN ACT LIKE IT!
Exactly my point.
And the best part of your reaction, like every other "christian" I have seen who is held accountable for their accusations on this earth..
You either learn to behave down here and repent of your rudeness or you can kiss off salvation permanently.
Really? I'm not going to make it into heaven because you felt I was rude? I suppose Jesus calling the Pharisees a ''brood of vipers'' was probably rude, oh and look He actually sits on the throne with the name above all names.
You go to the same pocket defense card as every other ''christian'', questioning the accusers salvation. Text book response from those who do not wish to actually give account for their accusations and slander.

You want the ''petty bickering and arguments to stop'' sure, we can stop, right around the time you produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
Otherwise you will continue to be called out for unsubstantiated slander.
 
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Listen, it is an easy thing to see the super bowl halftime shows and olympic ceremonies as what they are - total manifestations of worship to the god of this world.
If you can't see that, you can't see the difference between the Spirit of Christ and the spirit of this world.
 
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Listen, it is an easy thing to see the super bowl halftime shows and olympic ceremonies as what they are - total manifestations of worship to the god of this world.
If you can't see that, you can't see the difference between the Spirit of Christ and the spirit of this world.
There is a mile sized difference between what you are saying and claiming demon possession.
 
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I believe Praus and most of what he is mocked about.People generally mock what they don't understand,or don't want to see.They want to see as they choose.Once as a rebellious fool, I lived in the darkness.I was once a good friend to my current enemy,but Thank God, I was able to turn to the true Lord and master" Jesus Christ".
I completely disagree with Praus and its not do to a lack of understanding or wanting to see. I've been involved with people who Have been Genuinely possessed. So i know it, and i don't deny it.
Actually, to accuse everyone who is disagreeing with him as 'don't understand' or 'don't want to see' is you accusing people of things you don't know are true. Its a somewhat slanderous statement since you have no evidence or way to verify the accusation you're leveling against people. Much like calling Beyonce a baby killer and child molester when there is no evidence of that either.
 
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There is a mile sized difference between what you are saying and claiming demon possession.
No there isn't.
Not an iota of difference in the spirit realm,......unless you are judging by degrees.
Was Pilate demon possessed? What? He washed his hands.
How about Judas Iscariot? What? He repented and cast the 30 pieces of silver back at the synagogue rulers?
(What did Jesus say?) - And what did Judas shortly later?

You say....."well, some serve Lucifer to lesser degrees".
Do you see how that argument eats itself like the Ouroboros?(Snake eating it's own tail)
- Degrees of serving satan.
- - "Oh,......but she is not possessed by the dragon, she only reenacts spiritual rituals for him before what; - 2 billion?".
- - - Well neither was Judas then.
 
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I didn't watch the video, and I think that Christians need to look at demon possession seriously, but not from a secular perspective, or even for "ain't it AWWWFFFUUL" perspective. Christ tells us about it, so we need to watch our world for it.

We are going into the last days, and there will be tribulation in the last days. Demon possession is on the increase, Christians need to learn facts about this that is probably part of the tribulation we will experience.

Many authors are writing about demon possession now but only in a way to sell more books or for thrill seekers. I found two authors who write to inform: M Scott Peck and Malachi Martin. They have lots of interesting things to say about it, but I thought the most interesting was that people become obsessed by willingly accepting sin in their lives. Sometimes it is a one time decision, such as saying that they want wealth so much that they give over their lives to achieve it. It can also happen little by little, accepting sin as part of their living one sin at a time until they are overwhelmed.

These authors both feel that our churches are contributing to the increase of possession in our world by the acceptance of sin and not setting clear boundaries. The church has always been the leader in showing Godly living. It is what draws the sinners to Christ. When we say love means acceptance of sin, we lose on all counts.
 
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No there isn't.
Not an iota of difference in the spirit realm,......unless you are judging by degrees.
Was Pilate demon possessed? What? He washed his hands.
How about Judas Iscariot? What? He repented and cast the 30 pieces of silver back at the synagogue rulers?
(What did Jesus say?) - And what did Judas shortly later?

You say....."well, some serve Lucifer to lesser degrees".
Do you see how that argument eats itself like the Ouroboros?(Snake eating it's own tail)
- Degrees of serving satan.
- - "Oh,......but she is not possessed by the dragon, she only reenacts spiritual rituals for him before what; - 2 billion?".
- - - Well neither was Judas then.
According to the men who work with demon possession, there are degrees of possession. They say they can work with people who listen to the demons who live with them, but still make some decisions about listening to them or not. We can listen to demons around us that are only trying to sway us but not part us. If a person gives up all of themselves to how the demons guide them, they are beyond hope. They feel these demons are real spirits that are without bodies, their work is in fighting against God. They must use the body and voice of the people they possess. Scripture does not explain demons in this way, but it isn't against what bible says about them.
 
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I agree..there are cases of mental illness that aren't physical ailment
That is the problem with working with demon possession. It takes someone able to discern the difference between possession and illness. There were some terrible things done in the name of possession before that was understood. Now it is very difficult for possessed people to get help. So often people say all possession is mental illness.

I personally think that it is more complicated than that. I think possession leads to mental illness at times. We know how the body responds to certain deficiencies, and also that those deficiencies respond to the thoughts and moods of the patient.
 
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No there isn't.
Not an iota of difference in the spirit realm,......unless you are judging by degrees.
Was Pilate demon possessed? What? He washed his hands.
How about Judas Iscariot? What? He repented and cast the 30 pieces of silver back at the synagogue rulers?
(What did Jesus say?) - And what did Judas shortly later?

You say....."well, some serve Lucifer to lesser degrees".
Do you see how that argument eats itself like the Ouroboros?(Snake eating it's own tail)
- Degrees of serving satan.
- - "Oh,......but she is not possessed by the dragon, she only reenacts spiritual rituals for him before what; - 2 billion?".
- - - Well neither was Judas then.
That is as ridiculous as saying that everyone is just saved because God happens to exist. God exists therefore he MUST be inhabiting all of mankind. To quote you ...
Do you see how that argument eats itself like the Ouroboros?(Snake eating it's own tail)
Oh and
Not an iota of difference in the spirit realm,......unless you are judging by degrees.
Actually huge iota....significant to the point of being black and white. THERE IS and THERE IS NOT.

It's not degrees it IS or it IS'NT.

Not every single person on the face of the planet who is not saved is inhabited by a demon.

Also
John 19

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Jesus answered,
You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.12 From then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but the Jewish leaders kept shouting, “If you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.”
13 When Pilate heard this, he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge’s seat at a place known as the Stone Pavement (which in Aramaic is Gabbatha). 14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.
15 But they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!”
“Shall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked.
“We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.
16 Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified.
Do you see the above!?! Pilate wanted to FREE Jesus but the Jews DEMANDED he be crucified.

Also Judas did not repent, he felt remorse which is not the same as the bible clearly states...also..also
2 Corinthians 7:10

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10 Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.


If Judas had actually repented by Gods standards then he could have been forgiven.


Matthew 22:29

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29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
So again to quote myself.

Originally Posted by djness


There is a mile sized difference between what you are saying and claiming demon possession.


 
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djness

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Re: The petty bickering and arguments MUST STOP!

Originally Posted by PoxEclipse

And to everyone else here
who is arguing and disrespecting each other...I think all of you need to apologize to Praus, this is HIS thread.
I don't need to apologize to any man on this earth who puts his own agenda on actual scripture.

Jude 1:9

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9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”[a]


Even the angels know better then to bring false accusation and slander, but YOU oh man YOU who call someone demon possessed based off some youtube footage and a few slowed down facial expressions!?!?!

This may be HIS thread but this is Gods word you people are messing with and you either need to use it correctly or keep your mouths shut.
 
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letti

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I completely disagree with Praus and its not do to a lack of understanding or wanting to see. I've been involved with people who Have been Genuinely possessed. So i know it, and i don't deny it.
Actually, to accuse everyone who is disagreeing with him as 'don't understand' or 'don't want to see' is you accusing people of things you don't know are true. Its a somewhat slanderous statement since you have no evidence or way to verify the accusation you're leveling against people. Much like calling Beyonce a baby killer and child molester when there is no evidence of that either.
I never claimed to have evidence, it is really interesting,and strange on actual interviews from this Beyonce that she has mentioned her alter ego called Sasha fierce though.I won't argue what I have seen and heard this is for God himself to decide.But I never called her a baby killer or made those kind of allegations.
 
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Degrees then.
Perfect.
Like those lawyers and priests who accused Jesus to His face were less inhabited than the gadarene demoniac?
This is a common misunderstanding.
There are powers and principalities.
The demons that inhabited the one walking among the tombs were not the same as those inhabiting the rulers.
Did Nero shriek at the sight of Paul?
To make it easier, did Herod run from Jesus when he set Him at naught?
But all demons are rabid at the sight of holiness?
How is it satan presented himself to God in the book of Job?
Now, you will say demons are not fallen angels?
O.K. - Whatever it takes to nurse your 'Linda Blair exorcist' theology.
- Yes, of course there are lower level demons, but there are higher level ones too.
 
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djness

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Degrees then.
Perfect.
Like those lawyers and priests who accused Jesus to His face were less inhabited than the gadarene demoniac?
This is a common misunderstanding.
There are powers and principalities.
The demons that inhabited the one walking among the tombs were not the same as those inhabiting the rulers.
Did Nero shriek at the sight of Paul?
To make it easier, did Herod run from Jesus when he set Him at naught?
But all demons are rabid at the sight of holiness?
How is it satan presented himself to God in the book of Job?
Now, you will say demons are not fallen angels?
O.K. - Whatever it takes to nurse your 'Linda Blair exorcist' theology.
- Yes, of course there are lower level demons, but there are higher level ones too.
At best this is what is known as a straw man argument. Since you didn't actually respond to what I said you give me this?

It never came into question that some angels are more powerful then others. You method of retort seems more in line with a hare trying to escape the hunting dog. Not a thing you said even relates to your original statement or my responses. On top of that you suppose to say something as ludicrous as "Now, you will say demons are not fallen angels?"
Straw man argument at best...cmon....cmoooooonnnnnn!!!

Daniel 10:12-13New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Then he said, “Don’t be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day you began to pray for understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your request has been heard in heaven. I have come in answer to your prayer. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But for twenty-one days the spirit prince[SUP][a][/SUP] of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels,[SUP][b][/SUP] came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia


If it weren't for the fact that spreading false doctrines and slander bothers me so much I'd love to not even have to respond to these things. That would be just swell.
 
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At best this is what is known as a straw man argument. Since you didn't actually respond to what I said you give me this?

It never came into question that some angels are more powerful then others. You method of retort seems more in line with a hare trying to escape the hunting dog. Not a thing you said even relates to your original statement or my responses. On top of that you suppose to say something as ludicrous as "Now, you will say demons are not fallen angels?"
Straw man argument at best...cmon....cmoooooonnnnnn!!!

Daniel 10:12-13New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Then he said, “Don’t be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day you began to pray for understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your request has been heard in heaven. I have come in answer to your prayer. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But for twenty-one days the spirit prince[SUP][a][/SUP] of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels,[SUP][b][/SUP] came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia


If it weren't for the fact that spreading false doctrines and slander bothers me so much I'd love to not even have to respond to these things. That would be just swell.
That is truly sad.
No response.
I consider the argument won.
Nice reinforcing of my argument with Daniel.
The only straw man is your lack of response.
It was a semblance of big blue playing chess with Kasparov,.......... if big blue was a mid eighties 286.

- Thanks for the laugh 286.:D