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Wrong again. A black hole is an area of space that has such intense gravity that nothing can escape it, including light, electromagnetic energy etc
Im starting to understand you a little more I think. Ok..

Is it plausable to scientifically assume demons come from black holes? Of course not. We cant assume anything.
But I dont think everyone is jumping to the 'everything science is evil' conclusion.
I mean the bible verses talking about a circumstance describes this better than anything else anyone can imagine. I mean what else is a bottomless pit? With the symbols theres reason for concern.
So I think the fear is based off prophecy, not just discrimination for science.
And personally I dont think black holes are harmless and innocent at any size.
 
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Oh.. you're a flat earther I see now why this conversation is going to go nowhere
lol Im not saying the earth is flat. A black hole isnt flat. Earth is a vacuum of light and air with massive gravity and so on like described. I meant that can describe anything. Like you dont know whats on another planet by knowing its color.
 

Dude653

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lol Im not saying the earth is flat. A black hole isnt flat. Earth is a vacuum of light and air with massive gravity and so on like described. I meant that can describe anything. Like you dont know whats on another planet by knowing its color.
I think it was Galileo who said why would God give us intellect and expect us not to use it
He was excommunicated from the Catholic church for figuring out that the Earth revolves around the Sun and not the other way around
Bottom line is, people fear what they don't understand and we need to stop demonizing science
 

cv5

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And I think their point is we dont know what they are. Honestly the opinion that demons would come out is as scientifically valid as any other theory at this point. We have no clue what a black hole is.
Sure we do. Mass with no magnitude. Recently, astronomers have made images of the M87 black hole using polarizing filters .
And what do we observe? The selfsame irreducible conjugate torus/hyperboloid geometry as we do in a typical "magnetic field".

This universal conjugate geometry scales from the infinitesimal to infinity.

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Eli1

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Higgs Bosom has died, the one who coined "The God Particle" but all science has done is to reveal God more and more with each discovery.

"It seemed that all the scientific discoveries made from 1500-1900 seemed to go against God and religion. It seemed to people that the universe could be explained more and more without God. And so, if the universe could be explained without God, people thought, well, he probably doesn't exist. And in the 1900s, basically all intellectuals and philosophers were atheists," Bolloré said. "But from the beginning of the 20th century, a great many discoveries came to challenge the idea that the universe could explain itself."

There's never been so much evidence for the existence of God | Diocese of Raleigh
 

SomeDisciple

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I personally don't think spirits consist of "matter" or "energy" with respect to our universe. Of course they can affect matter and energy; or even manifest as matter and energy in some cases; but I don't think that our ideas of physics really applies to angelic or demonic beings. I guess if somebody has some kind of revelation on the matter, good for them; but it seems above my pay-grade... or at least out of my area of responsibility (since I don't get paid). While the physics (or whatever) of heaven and hell might be a pretty cool subject, I'm not sure it's any of our (or at least "my") business, or how mankind would even use such information.