Covid19 and Russia

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Billyd

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Am I the only one who is wondering why Russia has so few cases of covid19. Could it be that they actually developed and released it? Maybe they actually have a vaccine for it.

Anyway, it's something to think about.
 

Lanolin

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I was thinking along similar lines. People seem to blame china but its clearly an attack on chinese people not made by them for who would want to poison their own people. The chinese had to suffer first.
The closest nation to China where it, could start is Russia and they are known for dabbling in nefarious chemical warfare along with germany...werent they the ones that exterminated the jews. I dont know about mongolia but the idea that the chinese deliberately did it is stupid. we're not hearing about north Korea and the Japanese, who had a were known for killing a lot of chinese people in the past but I dont think are involved..although they are quite technologically advanced.

all a virus needs is a deadly concoction in it and it will be a carrier to everyone, like a bomb going off. I dont know what the components are of it but it is some sort of poison that coats the lungs.
 

Lanolin

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the only other thing is russia is a a huge nation so not likely to hear much news from them as they are so isolated. and they have colder temperatures so I dont know if the virus is just dormant there...

just my speculation.
 
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No, the virus started in China.

There are two main thoughts on why Russia is so far is not facing a pandemic. The first theory is that Russia's policy of not having very open borders and not drinking too deeply from the koolaid of globalism and multiculturalism has prevented the virus from spreading rapidly like it did in the countries that, you know, said you are a racist and that you need to hug more asians. The other school of thought is that Russia actually is having a pandemic and they just simply are lying about it. Though I find this a bit far-fetched, I mean the CCP is far more suppressive than Russia and they couldn't even keep this quiet.
 

Lanolin

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That seems an incredibly naive sentiment.
no its true.
I notice really only americans that routinely kill their own people. assasinate their own presidents all the time. nobody from outside does it. then they go into other countries and bomb them too. agent orange, nuclear weapons, porn, drugs.

China has its own issues, theyve had revolutions etc but they are not silly enough to deliberately send a virus out and sabotage themselves and the entire world. They dont go bombing other countries are supplying them with toxic drugs and weapons.
 

Lanolin

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the virus started killing people in china but that does not mean it was startedd BY the chinese. get your facts straight.
 

Lanolin

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seems like its bat to human transmission according to scientists not some man made chemical so there goes the conspiracy theory.
I dont think the chinese would deliberately introuduce the virus thats the stupidest thing I ever heard.
not being careful about hygiene might be a factor...but CCers should stop being so paranoid that every country is out to get them and being so racist.
 

Magenta

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no its true.
I notice really only americans that routinely kill their own people. assasinate their own presidents all the time. nobody from outside does it. then they go into other countries and bomb them too. agent orange, nuclear weapons, porn, drugs.

China has its own issues, theyve had revolutions etc but they are not silly enough to deliberately send a virus out and sabotage themselves and the entire world. They dont go bombing other countries are supplying them with toxic drugs and weapons.
Do you ever stop kvetching about America and Americans? In the history of the U.S. presidency, four presidents have actually been assassinated. How old is America? If you count from when the Jamestown colony was founded, then America is 411 years old. If you count from when the Plymouth colony was founded, then America is 398 years old. If you count from when the Declaration of Independence was drafted, then America is 244 years old. China has had armed skirmishes with many of its neighbors, including the Soviet Union, Vietnam, and India, and also sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers to support the Korean war and the Vietnam war. China also invaded Tibet. Trying to whitewash Chinese governmental abuses against their own people does not help your case, either. Nor does pretending the virus could not have been accidentally released if scientifically engineered.
 

Lanolin

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the OP poster should actually go and contact someone living in Russia and ask them or watch the news in russian not hard on satellite tv or radio to find out whats going on. But you need to speak russian.
 

Lanolin

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its cos americans go on and on about themselves all the time we know how they hate on russians and everyone who isnt them its so obvious on CC all the time.
 

Lanolin

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GET OVER YOURSELVES.
God doesnt like you hating on humanity.
 

Magenta

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seems like its bat to human transmission according to scientists not some man made chemical so there goes the conspiracy theory.
I dont think the chinese would deliberately introuduce the virus thats the stupidest thing I ever heard.
not being careful about hygiene might be a factor...but CCers should stop being so paranoid that every country is out to get them and being so racist.
Your racism against Americans is evident in many of your posts.
 

Billyd

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I actually believe the Chinese government when they say that it originated (at least in China) in a wild animal meat market.

I do find the Russian numbers suspect. They are lagging far behind European and other Asian countries. I am inclined to believe that it is due to lack of testing. I would also like to know when and where Russia's first cases appeared.

Does anyone know where the first NYC cases appeared?
 
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EleventhHour

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I actually believe the Chinese government when they say that it originated (at least in China) in a wild animal meat market.

I do find the Russian numbers suspect. They are lagging far behind European and other Asian countries. I am inclined to believe that it is due to lack of testing. I would also like to know when and where Russia's first cases appeared.

Does anyone know where the first NYC cases appeared?
They did act swiftly on some things... having stated this "data" from Russia would always be suspect.
 

Magenta

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Does anyone know where the first NYC cases appeared?
I found this:

The first case of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) as a result of infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was confirmed in New York City by Governor Andrew M Cuomo, on Sunday March 1, 2020.

The patient, a woman aged 39 years, was a healthcare worker and is believed to have contracted the infection while traveling in Iran. She returned from Iran a week before diagnosis with COVID-19 and began experiencing respiratory symptoms. The patient presented to an undisclosed hospital in New York City during which she was evaluated and provided a sputum sample, which was tested in a laboratory in Albany, NY. Although this test confirmed that the patient had SARS-CoV-2, the results will be reviewed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.

Likely due to her experience as a healthcare worker, the patient took several precautions upon returning from Iran, including not using mass transit. New York City’s Health Commissioner, Oxiris Barbot, MD, reported that all “close contacts of the patient” have been identified and measures are being taken to ensure that further transmission of the virus is minimal.
 

Billyd

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I found this:

The first case of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) as a result of infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was confirmed in New York City by Governor Andrew M Cuomo, on Sunday March 1, 2020.

The patient, a woman aged 39 years, was a healthcare worker and is believed to have contracted the infection while traveling in Iran. She returned from Iran a week before diagnosis with COVID-19 and began experiencing respiratory symptoms. The patient presented to an undisclosed hospital in New York City during which she was evaluated and provided a sputum sample, which was tested in a laboratory in Albany, NY. Although this test confirmed that the patient had SARS-CoV-2, the results will be reviewed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.

Likely due to her experience as a healthcare worker, the patient took several precautions upon returning from Iran, including not using mass transit. New York City’s Health Commissioner, Oxiris Barbot, MD, reported that all “close contacts of the patient” have been identified and measures are being taken to ensure that further transmission of the virus is minimal.

Thank you.
 

breno785au

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Maybe Russia doesn't exist and they're all paid actors with amazing accents who love crashing their cars in spectacular fashion to amuse the world :unsure:
 
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EleventhHour

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Maybe Russia doesn't exist and they're all paid actors with amazing accents who love crashing their cars in spectacular fashion to amuse the world :unsure:
Are you sure?

Maybe that's why they never made it to the moon.:unsure::D