Creating a Christian Faith Army in the USA

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Do you think we should create a christian army in the usa?

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Blain

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don't worry God is already creating his army but us making one isn't going to any good
 
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Destiny favors the prepared for sure.....and as a Marine from the 80's I fully understand your post and lets just say.........................................!
 
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I don't listen to talk radio. It is trash. I am not some wacko looking for a fight or a stupid reason to kill some one. I pray I will never have to make that choice.
What I mean is simple.
IF and I repeat IF, someone like ISIA or any other terror group who want to kill ALL Christians comes to my home to rape my wife and daughter, or my neighbors wife, and KILL us, YES I will fight. and Yes I will try to kill as many as I can so their will be less of them IF they come to your house.
If you want to comdem me for that attitude, that is your choice. I pray It never happens to me or to YOU.
AMEN to that.......all I can say is....I hope they are lead proof and or can dodge flying lead that is cruising at about 3300 feet a second.........!
 
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jaybird88

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Destiny favors the prepared for sure.....and as a Marine from the 80's I fully understand your post and lets just say.........................................!
i agree with you dc. you ole marine from the 80s! i think many are misunderstanding the OP and other statements like this. i dont think this is about mankind making an army and annihilating the full forces of evil on our own without the Lords help. only our Lord can do that. but right now it is mankind that is making the world a terrible place and as servants to the Lord i think it is wrong to turn a blind eye to it. we can have faith and we can pray, which is important but there is a reason we have free will and it is up to us to make the most of that free will.
 
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Why would we need an "Army of God" if the rapture is gonna happen?

DC! no need to reply Marine,l know your view of the day of the Lord!

Others here are saying one thing over in the BDF and something else over here.

So to you rapture believers why would you need an Army? I thought you all were immune or something.
 

posthuman

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For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure?
But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God.

(1 Peter 2:20)

i just want to know how it glorifies God if someone shoots me because i was pointing a gun at them.
 
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3Scoreand10

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For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure?
But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God.

(1 Peter 2:20)

i just want to know how it glorifies God if someone shoots me because i was pointing a gun at them.
How does it glorify God if you stand by and allow an evil wicked person to rape and kill your wife or your neighbors when you could stop that person by sending him to hell with one shot?
I am an old man, but I am a MAN!
 
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3Scoreand10

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What some people can not understand is that if it were not for men who were willing to take the life of evil and wicked men, none of us would be having this discussions on CC.
We would be living under people like Nero, Hitler, Stalin, or ISIS.
Would you really prefer that?
I prefer the freedom I have to worship my Lord that was bought and paid for by the blood of many brave men who were willing to kill evil men. It is not that they enjoyed nor wanted to, but they were willing.
 
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jaybird88

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Why would we need an "Army of God" if the rapture is gonna happen?

So to you rapture believers why would you need an Army? I thought you all were immune or something.
is the rapture happening right now at the moment? so until then how r u gonna live your life? if you went outside and a small child was being raped by a Pedophile, would your only response be to walk up, tell that innocent child "its ok cause the rapture will happen someday" then walk away while she continues to be abused?

How does it glorify God if you stand by and allow an evil wicked person to rape and kill your wife or your neighbors when you could stop that person by sending him to hell with one shot?
I am an old man, but I am a MAN!
well said!
 

posthuman

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what some people don't seem to understand is that ISIL = Islamic State in Iraq & the Levant, and that they have zero interest in invading Kansas and raping all of our wives. Oklahoma ain't the Levant either.
but already we want to murder them and use that imaginary fear as an excuse.
& that desire is so strong we're willing to toss out everything Christ literally said about turning the other cheek.
but we still want to justify ourselves by slapping Christ's name on that malice?

brother, Jesus & what He taught has nothing at all to do with what you're talking about.

but ISIL in all likelihood would like to invade Israel. if you want to go involve yourself in Armageddon, to mix your blood with the rest of those whose juices are going to fill that valley, that's something else. but i feel like we ought to be honest about it -- if anyone wants to go defend the Iraqis, Lebanese, Israelis or the Syrians, good -- but don't go doing it pretending you're protecting America, or that you're doing it because Christ taught you to meddle with a fight that's not your own.

He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him,
is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.

(Proverbs 26:17)
 
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jaybird88

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what some people don't seem to understand is that ISIL = Islamic State in Iraq & the Levant, and that they have zero interest in invading Kansas and raping all of our wives. Oklahoma ain't the Levant either.
but already we want to murder them and use that imaginary fear as an excuse.
& that desire is so strong we're willing to toss out everything Christ literally said about turning the other cheek.
but we still want to justify ourselves by slapping Christ's name on that malice?

brother, Jesus & what He taught has nothing at all to do with what you're talking about.

but ISIL in all likelihood would like to invade Israel. if you want to go involve yourself in Armageddon, to mix your blood with the rest of those whose juices are going to fill that valley, that's something else. but i feel like we ought to be honest about it -- if anyone wants to go defend the Iraqis, Lebanese, Israelis or the Syrians, good -- but don't go doing it pretending you're protecting America, or that you're doing it because Christ taught you to meddle with a fight that's not your own.

He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him,
is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.

(Proverbs 26:17)
i have nothing against Muslims, not one has ever threatened me nor anyone i know. i do have something against those that declare war knowing that they themselves will never have to put their lives on the line . in Iraq 1 million Iraqis have been killed and of those 700 thousand civilians and of those 500 thousand children. the ones deciding to bomb targets full of women and children are the ones i have a problem with. these people will never lose a nights sleep over their actions, the deaths of innocent children mean nothing to them. its hard to believe they are even human.
 
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How does it glorify God if you stand by and allow an evil wicked person to rape and kill your wife or your neighbors when you could stop that person by sending him to hell with one shot?
I am an old man, but I am a MAN!
This is just fear mongering, something Baptists specialize and live in constantly, because their love for the world is waxing cold and always have.

We hear the same tired tactics down here in rural OK. The Baptists love talking smack and fear.

Forget what Jesus says, better to protect your rights and your guns.
 
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is the rapture happening right now at the moment? so until then how r u gonna live your life? if you went outside and a small child was being raped by a Pedophile, would your only response be to walk up, tell that innocent child "its ok cause the rapture will happen someday" then walk away while she continues to be abused?
fear mongering as well. Jesus said you were not part of this world , so why are you letting the world make your decisions.
Stand on the Word or don't, your choice.
 
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jaybird88

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fear mongering as well. Jesus said you were not part of this world , so why are you letting the world make your decisions.
Stand on the Word or don't, your choice.
but you ignored what i asked. ok you dont have to answer but think, why are we here? why do we have free will? do you have kids? do they raise themselves or do you teach them?
 
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but you ignored what i asked. ok you dont have to answer but think, why are we here? why do we have free will? do you have kids? do they raise themselves or do you teach them?
Yes I have a child and she was raised to stand on the promises of God's Word and not be moved or shaken by things of this world. We taught her how to discern things spiritually and naturally. She was taught in practical areas of self defense, situational awareness and to be ever vigilant of others around her.

Evil exists in the world and our family does not pretend it is not around us, nor do we ignore it. Jesus said let our hearts not be troubled.

I have watched God completely turn around pedophiles. He is that big!
 
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3Scoreand10

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This is just fear mongering, something Baptists specialize and live in constantly, because their love for the world is waxing cold and always have.

We hear the same tired tactics down here in rural OK. The Baptists love talking smack and fear.

Forget what Jesus says, better to protect your rights and your guns.
So does your wife know you will not protect her if some one comes to rape or kill her.
Tell her to call one of us evil Baptist. We will be glad to do what you are not man enough to do.
 
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3Scoreand10

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So does your wife know you will not protect her if some one comes to rape or kill her.
Tell her to call one of us evil Baptist. We will be glad to do what you are not man enough to do.
To Joshua and all others that have read this post, I am sorry for such a foolish statement. It was uncalled for.
It seems I have been unclear in my post about protecting one's family.
I will post a more clear statement when I have time.
Again I am sorry.
 
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So does your wife know you will not protect her if some one comes to rape or kill her.
Tell her to call one of us evil Baptist. We will be glad to do what you are not man enough to do.
My wife can empty a .380 9 round mag through any kind of purse, shoulder or carry. I taught her to fire through her purse.

It takes less time to fire through the purse and kill the guy/s intent on raping or killing her, than it does for her to try to find the weapon, remove it out of her purse, aim, fire and attempt to kill the guy/s intent on raping or killing her.

She has the name of Jesus Christ, the power and anointing of the Holy Ghost and for the rest of the stupid and evil...Sig Sauer

A real man does not protect his wife, he teaches her to protect herself, because he will likely not be there when evil comes knocking on her door. 98% of all attacks on females come when there is no man around them.

My wife is also an Italian from Sicily. nuff said :cool: