Employers requiring a vaccination

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Kireina

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I told my employer that i wont take the vaccine and the good thing is they are ok with it...but in the near future I don't know what will going to happen...if I'm going to decide to fly back to my country and vice versa...because i heard that the airlines and my host country would probably require us(not confirmed yet) to get the vaccine to travel and enter my host country


If it is no fly-no vaccine then I'll wait till i go back home to retire in my country Or get the vaccine 😀
 
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TheIndianGirl

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I told my employer that i wont take the vaccine and the good thing is they are ok with it...but in the near future I don't know what will going to happen...if I'm going to decide to fly back to my country and vice versa...because i heard that the airlines and my host country would probably require us(not confirmed yet) to get the vaccine to travel and enter my host country


If it is no fly-no vaccine then I'll wait till i go back home to retire in my country Or get the vaccine 😀
You will at least need a negative COVID test for the flight, and maybe another test at arrival. Plus, maybe quarantine requirements.
 

Gideon300

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Some employers are mandating that all current and future employees receive a vaccine for covid-19. What this demonstrates is a gross misunderstanding of what a vaccine is. A vaccine is not a cure, doesn't create 100% immunity, and doesn't prevent the spread of viruses. All it does is boost immunity to a virus by tricking the body into creating anti-bodies.

People who have caught covid-19 naturally will have anti-bodies. Therefore, requiring a vaccine is an invalid opinion made by employers with no knowledge of how vaccines work.

Furthermore, if you've already caught a strain of covid-19 then a vaccine would be redundant. Yet they won't accept positive blood test for anti-bodies as sufficient to prove immunity.

So what motivates them? Politics and propaganda. People are pushing for vaccines because that's what their information overlords are saying. They don't think about it; they just repeat what they heard and defend it rigorously.

There really isn't any reasoning with them other than full compliance with their narrative. Therefore, I take the stance of resisting the vaccine at all costs because of the sinister push to force a vaccine, but most of all due to how unethical it is.

Modern vaccines are created from the research and development of testing viruses on the stem cells of murdered babies. I don't want that blood on my hands. Nor will I compromise what's right for money.

Matthew 6:24
24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Whatever your opinion, the facts are that millions of people are alive now because of vaccines. Millions more have not suffered the effects of terrible diseases because of vaccines.

Dispeling myths associated with Covid vaccine development.

Compiled by Jean Covillo, DNAP(C), CRNA


"I have encountered a lot of folks who have expressed concern related to receiving these vaccines due to misinformation they have read regarding vaccine development and the erroneous belief that embryonic stem cells are used to make the vaccine. I want to assure you that both the Moderna and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine do not utilize embryonic material in their vaccines and neither company used these materials to create their vaccine. Here is the reality. Scientists have gained a lot of knowledge over the years from embryonic stem cell research that has led to groundbreaking discoveries on how to reprogram our own cells to “act” exactly like embryonic cells without using or relying on embryonic cells or tissue in the process. That’s right-I repeat-the cellular components and/or cells being used in this vaccine development comes from both synthetic material (man-made) or our very own cells found in our own adult bodies that have simply been reprogrammed! They did not come from embryos or fetal tissue.


Most of us don’t read articles like this and vaccine development is complicated. This information is only intended as educational and in no way represents my opinion as it relates to embryonic stem cell research. I simply want to offer information on the subject matter so that you can be armed with the facts before making a decision. I have numbered the sources and shown them in blue. Each of these blue labeled numbers are links to the original source. I hope after reading this and doing a little of your own research you decide to get vaccinated."
 

Nehemiah6

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You will at least need a negative COVID test for the flight, and maybe another test at arrival. Plus, maybe quarantine requirements.
Those tests (if they are PCR) mean absolutely nothing. 99.9% are false positives since the tests are not being used as required (which means a CT value of 24 or less). And quarantines are for sick people, not healthy individuals. Do you see the scam?
 

Kireina

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You will at least need a negative COVID test for the flight, and maybe another test at arrival. Plus, maybe quarantine requirements.
Yes,so far that's how it is in the Philippines a swab test and you should be quarantined upon arrival...but i only get 2 weeks to one month vacation a year...😂 imagine...14 days quarantine(in the philippines) and another 14 days (host country) 😅
 

Nehemiah6

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Whatever your opinion, the facts are that millions of people are alive now because of vaccines.
They just happened to be lucky. Which does not mean that bad things cannot happen down the road. Previously, if 25 people died from a vaccine, there was a halt to further vaccinations. Now that about 15,000 have died between the USA and Europe (2020-2021), how come no one is calling for a halt? Do you think it is the billions of dollars which are at stake? These vaccinations are not about health at all. They are all about cash -- big bucks. And absolutely no liability or accountability.
 
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Whatever your opinion, the facts are that millions of people are alive now because of vaccines. Millions more have not suffered the effects of terrible diseases because of vaccines.

Dispeling myths associated with Covid vaccine development.

Compiled by Jean Covillo, DNAP(C), CRNA


"I have encountered a lot of folks who have expressed concern related to receiving these vaccines due to misinformation they have read regarding vaccine development and the erroneous belief that embryonic stem cells are used to make the vaccine. I want to assure you that both the Moderna and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine do not utilize embryonic material in their vaccines and neither company used these materials to create their vaccine. Here is the reality. Scientists have gained a lot of knowledge over the years from embryonic stem cell research that has led to groundbreaking discoveries on how to reprogram our own cells to “act” exactly like embryonic cells without using or relying on embryonic cells or tissue in the process. That’s right-I repeat-the cellular components and/or cells being used in this vaccine development comes from both synthetic material (man-made) or our very own cells found in our own adult bodies that have simply been reprogrammed! They did not come from embryos or fetal tissue.


Most of us don’t read articles like this and vaccine development is complicated. This information is only intended as educational and in no way represents my opinion as it relates to embryonic stem cell research. I simply want to offer information on the subject matter so that you can be armed with the facts before making a decision. I have numbered the sources and shown them in blue. Each of these blue labeled numbers are links to the original source. I hope after reading this and doing a little of your own research you decide to get vaccinated."
Do you think modern vaccines are still immoral because of they originated from discoveries in stem cell research? How far removed from the source of stem cell research must a vaccine be in order to make it ok?

For me, it's a matter of personal conscience. Those talking points he used didn't address these questions.
 
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How did your employer respond?
My employer is/was, was/is for the vaccine, but has since seen several folk he knows that 1 has died, and 2 more very sick after the vaccine. He also knows many others that have been okay. He is not going to require anything unless it is mandated.
 

PennEd

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Whatever your opinion, the facts are that millions of people are alive now because of vaccines. Millions more have not suffered the effects of terrible diseases because of vaccines.

Dispeling myths associated with Covid vaccine development.

Compiled by Jean Covillo, DNAP(C), CRNA


"I have encountered a lot of folks who have expressed concern related to receiving these vaccines due to misinformation they have read regarding vaccine development and the erroneous belief that embryonic stem cells are used to make the vaccine. I want to assure you that both the Moderna and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine do not utilize embryonic material in their vaccines and neither company used these materials to create their vaccine. Here is the reality. Scientists have gained a lot of knowledge over the years from embryonic stem cell research that has led to groundbreaking discoveries on how to reprogram our own cells to “act” exactly like embryonic cells without using or relying on embryonic cells or tissue in the process. That’s right-I repeat-the cellular components and/or cells being used in this vaccine development comes from both synthetic material (man-made) or our very own cells found in our own adult bodies that have simply been reprogrammed! They did not come from embryos or fetal tissue.


Most of us don’t read articles like this and vaccine development is complicated. This information is only intended as educational and in no way represents my opinion as it relates to embryonic stem cell research. I simply want to offer information on the subject matter so that you can be armed with the facts before making a decision. I have numbered the sources and shown them in blue. Each of these blue labeled numbers are links to the original source. I hope after reading this and doing a little of your own research you decide to get vaccinated."
No

https://vaxpain.us/
 

DeanM

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May 4, 2021
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Some employers are mandating that all current and future employees receive a vaccine for covid-19. What this demonstrates is a gross misunderstanding of what a vaccine is. A vaccine is not a cure, doesn't create 100% immunity, and doesn't prevent the spread of viruses. All it does is boost immunity to a virus by tricking the body into creating anti-bodies.

People who have caught covid-19 naturally will have anti-bodies. Therefore, requiring a vaccine is an invalid opinion made by employers with no knowledge of how vaccines work.

Furthermore, if you've already caught a strain of covid-19 then a vaccine would be redundant. Yet they won't accept positive blood test for anti-bodies as sufficient to prove immunity.

So what motivates them? Politics and propaganda. People are pushing for vaccines because that's what their information overlords are saying. They don't think about it; they just repeat what they heard and defend it rigorously.

There really isn't any reasoning with them other than full compliance with their narrative. Therefore, I take the stance of resisting the vaccine at all costs because of the sinister push to force a vaccine, but most of all due to how unethical it is.

Modern vaccines are created from the research and development of testing viruses on the stem cells of murdered babies. I don't want that blood on my hands. Nor will I compromise what's right for money.

Matthew 6:24
24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
if not for the media people would have went about their business like any other flu season.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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So far, my employer has said anyone who doesn't want to wear masks must show proof of vaccination.