Everyone falls away from Jesus

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DeanM

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not so... that stuff about how If you fell away, you were never saved.

example: a serial killer (I believe Gary Rideway... I've read about several) was a "born again Christian"

(and I could go on & on...)
I dont belive it either, dont kill the messenger šŸ˜
 

JesusWhereRU

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I dont belive it either, dont kill the messenger šŸ˜
i didn't say you believe it...

but glad 2 hear u don't... one of the most illogical beliefs ever invented (by the devil who of course loves dragging people into Hell via false beliefs. We humans are good @ lying to ourselves... even to the end)
 

JesusWhereRU

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#43
well let's see

I received 2 likes on my summation of what is going on with you and you got zero, zilch, nada, nothing, rien and a big goose egg likes on your op

you are just angry cause I called it



No. It is those who are saved by the blood of Christ and have faith IN Him that are saved. NOT the number of times you fall away.,

I don't count likes or not likes for comparison and usually not at all. Just thought I would make it real for you

see you or not :whistle:
people who are into Jesus do not hate others.

sorry, but you SOUND (key word)

hateful...

that's not saying u hate me, just that you SOUND like it...
 

PennEd

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Even when/if humans give up all their serious sin

they are still UNWORTHY of Jesus Christ
Iā€™m saddened by your post. I donā€™t think you understand Grace, the Gospel unto Salvation, or the SEALING of the Holy Spirit at all.

You need to hear, believe and receive the Gospel:


THE Gospel unto Salvation:
God wrapped Himself in human flesh in the form of His Son, Jesus the Messiah. Conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin. He suffered, was crucified, and died to pay OUR sin debt. He was raised to life from the grave to prove He had defeated death. If you confess Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that His Father resurrected Him to Life on the 3rd day, you WILL be saved. You will be filled, and sealed with the Holy Spirit, who will empower ALL to turn from their sins. The sin of adultery, lying, stealing, homosexuality, gossip, slander, drunkenness, covetousness, etc... And most importantly the sin of DEAD works, or a moral life in an attempt to EARN Salvation. He will also equip you to love like He did and do good works for HIS Glory.

Donā€™t add anything. Donā€™t take anything away.
 

Evmur

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#45
somewhere in the Word it says verbatim "You will be saved" [emphasis added] to those who obey or attempt to obey Jesus

Nowhere in the Word is the human-made belief of "Once saved always saved"

Those words are not there, yet people who claim to believe the Bible believe them... They are believing humans (human intepretation) rather than Christ
This is not right

The bible says categorically "who-so-ever believeth believeth in in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life," the language you use is wily.

"Once saved always saved" is wily talk.

Read it again "shall not perish" you say they may, "hath everlasting life" you say it is not everlasting.
 

Evmur

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#46
sinning over and over again is crucifying Jesus over and over..

why would you clean your bathtub and then toss mud into it and smear it all over the walls of the bathtub...

which is not a perfect analogy but in any case... If you dirtied it up like that, you wouldn't leave it like that when you decide to take a bath... You would have to scrub it all over again...

the soul is much the same... dirty it up and you have to scrub it clean again... problem is: once dirtied... you forget about Jesus, at least on certain levels of your being.

If you disagree, then you are saying my own experiences in this world RE sin (JWRU's) are of no meaning to you. Well, I am as human as anyone else. I am as Christian as anyone else (more so in some cases...)

The experiences of all humans matter..

In other words: I know what it's like to be a sinner.
I also know what it's like to have Jesus make me... less a sinner
It is a process, to be sure... (getting rid of sins AND our inclination to sin)
Such darkness

sinner, less a sinner what are you even talking about?

If we have come to Christ properly, He washes away our sins, ALL our sins, once and for all, kit and kaboodle.

We are born again, made new creatures, the old man passes away, behold the new has come. Jesus imparts His life to us, we come ALIVE spiritually.

Our old sin nature is nailed to the cross and is buried with Christ and we are raised in newness of life.

All this takes place in a jiffy, quicker'n you could say "I'm saved, I'm saved" miraculously, in a twinking of the eye God does it and we are saved forever.

All YOU gotta ask is "has this thing happened to me?"