Flat earth debunked.

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RaceRunner

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A “Standing Order” exists in the English Houses of Parliament that, in the cutting of canals, &c., the datum line employed shall be a “horizontal line, which shall be the same throughout the whole length of the work.” Now, if the Earth were a globe, this “Order” could not be carried out: but, it is carried out: therefore, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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It is a well-known and indisputable fact that there is a far greater accumulation of ice south of the equator than is to be found at an equal latitude north: and it is said that at Kerguelen, 50 degrees south, 18 kinds of plants exist, whilst, in Iceland, 15 degrees nearer the northern centre, there are 870 species; and, indeed, all the facts in the case show that the Sun’s power is less intense at places in the southern region than it is in corresponding latitudes north. Now, on the Newtonian hypothesis, all this is inexplicable, whilst it is strictly in accordance with the facts brought to light by the carrying out of the principles involved in the Zetetic Philosophy of “Parallax.” This is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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Every year the Sun is as long south of the equator as he is north; and if the Earth were not “stretched out” as it is, in fact, but turned under, as the Newtonian theory suggests, it would certainly get as intensive a share of the Sun’s rays south as north; but the Southern region being, in consequence of the fact stated, far more extensive than the region North, the Sun, having to complete his journey round every twenty-four hours, travels quicker as he goes further south, from September to December, and his influence has less time in which to accumulate at any given point. Since, then, the facts could not be as they are if the Earth were a globe, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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The aeronaut is able to start in his balloon and remain for hours in the air, at an elevation of several miles, and come down again in the same county or parish from which he ascended. Now, unless the Earth drag the balloon along with it in its nineteen-miles-a-second motion, it must be left far behind, in space: but, since balloons have never been known thus to be left, it is a proof that the Earth, does not move, and, therefore, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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The Newtonian theory of astronomy requires that the Moon “borrow” her light from the Sun. Now, since the Sun’s rays are hot and the Moon’s light sends with it no heat at all, it follows that the Sun and Moon are “two great lights,” as we somewhere read; that the Newtonian theory is a mistake; and that, therefore, we have a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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The Sun and Moon may often be seen high in the heavens at the same time—the Sun rising in the east and the Moon setting in the west—the Sun’s light positively putting the Moon’s light out by sheer contrast! If the accepted Newtonian theory were correct, and the Moon had her light from the Sun, she ought to be getting more of it when face to face with that luminary—if it were possible for a sphere to act as a reflector all over its face! But as the Moon’s light pales before the rising Sun, it is a proof that the theory fails; and this gives us a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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The Newtonian hypothesis involves the necessity of the Sun, in the case of a lunar eclipse, being on the opposite side of a globular earth, to cast its shadow on the Moon: but, since eclipses of the Moon have taken place with both the Sun and the Moon above the horizon, it follows that it cannot be the shadow of the Earth that eclipses the Moon; that the theory is a blunder; and that it is nothing less than a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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Astronomers have never agreed amongst themselves about a rotating Moon revolving round a rotating and revolving Earth—this Earth, Moon, planets and their satellites all, at the same time dashing through space, around the rotating and revolving Sun, towards the constellation Hercules, at the rate of four millions of miles a day! And they never will: agreement is impossible! With the Earth a plane and without motion, the whole thing is clear. And if a straw will show which way the wind blows, this may be taken as a pretty strong proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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Mr. Proctor says: “The Sun is so far off that even moving from one side of the Earth to the other does not cause him to be seen in a different direction—at least the difference is too small to be measured.” Now, since we know that north of the equator, say 45 degrees, we see the Sun at mid-day to the south, and that at the same distance south of the equator we see the Sun at mid-day to the north, our very shadows on the ground cry aloud against the delusion of the day and give us a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

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There is no problem more important to the astronomer than that of the Sun’s distance from the Earth. Every change in the estimate changes everything. Now, since modern astronomers, in their estimates of this distance, have gone all the way along the line of figures from three millions of miles to a hundred and four millions—to-day, the distance being something over 91,000,000; it matters not how much: for, not many years ago, Mr. Hind gave the distance, “accurately,” as 95,370,000!—it follows that they don’t know, and that it is foolish for anyone to expect that they ever will know, the Sun’s [18]distance! And since all this speculation and absurdity is caused by the primary assumption that Earth is a wandering, heavenly body, and is all swept away by a knowledge of the fact that Earth is a plane, it is a clear proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

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If it was glass, it should have been well and truly shattered by now. Hundreds of people would have died by crashing into the glass. Not a lot of logic in what you believe. I'll stick to empirical observations from people who have been up there.
We are entitled to believe what we want, but here are a few examples that support a glass sky.

Moon dogs, sun dogs, rainbows, sprites, and etc. You can say there is no logic, but it makes sense to me.

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Can someone spam post a bunch of Eric Dubay quotes please? lol Oh wait, nevermind.
 

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If anything, this one shows that there is a dome above (curved the same way) and not a glass ball in the sky.
Possibly, or it could be one of the those inverted mirages, which is known to happen. I know you really wanted that one, but you have your view, and I have mine. Yes, I know you flat earthers and concave hollow earthers like me, believe in the glass sky, but yours is a dome, mine is a sphere. Multi-sphere if I'm going with the majority view of cavemen.

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Flat earthers and concave hollow earthers can gang up on the moon landing though. lol
 

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Flat earthers and concave hollow earthers can gang up on the moon landing though. lol
Even Ball Earth folks can get in on that one - whatever the shape of the earth - we did not go to the moon. ;)

And, it is easily proven to anyone who is willing to look at the real evidence.
 

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Even Ball Earth folks can get in on that one - whatever the shape of the earth - we did not go to the moon. ;)

And, it is easily proven to anyone who is willing to look at the real evidence.
What's easy for you, may not be so easy to someone else, but I get your point.

I think Mythbusters and NASA did a stand up job on answering moon landing skeptics, but the answers were far more believable to people who believe in the moon landing, than to those who doubt the moon landing....If that makes sense.

I think NASA and the mainstream media just try to present a view that is plausible, but not a 100% air tight story line. Most people are to busy watching pro sports, getting drunk, and etc to really look at things critically. Life is miserable enough, get back to the Superbowl already! lol

People want to get distracted from their miserable life, so thinking of things that make them more miserable, isn't the logical step. I guess being a Christian sort of sets you on a course of being miserable, but if you keep the faith, this miserable life turns into your testimony. What am I saying right now?!?! lol

Moon landings....
 

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We are entitled to believe what we want, but here are a few examples that support a glass sky.

Moon dogs, sun dogs, rainbows, sprites, and etc. You can say there is no logic, but it makes sense to me.

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Can someone spam post a bunch of Eric Dubay quotes please? lol Oh wait, nevermind.
A “Standing Order” exists in the English Houses of Parliament that, in the cutting of canals, &c., the datum line employed shall be a “horizontal line, which shall be the same throughout the whole length of the work.” Now, if the Earth were a globe, this “Order” could not be carried out: but, it is carried out: therefore, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
The circumference of the earth is about 25,000 miles. The longest canal in the UK is 137 miles. Even you should be able to see that it is the tiniest portion of a massive circle. Th curvature at that scale is so slight that it would be unnoticeable. However, that does not means that it is not there.
 

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We are entitled to believe what we want, but here are a few examples that support a glass sky.

Moon dogs, sun dogs, rainbows, sprites, and etc. You can say there is no logic, but it makes sense to me.

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Can someone spam post a bunch of Eric Dubay quotes please? lol Oh wait, nevermind.
You can believe in Santa, the tooth fairy or Peter Pan for that matter. They are as plausible as the flat earth and glass sky theories. Believe what you like, but don't pretend that you have a real basis for your beliefs.
 

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Like those rocketeers that took their arc’s out for a scoot on the moon in the 60’s. Very credible. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Several born again Christians testified that they went to the moon and some walked on its surface. I'd be careful about calling them liars. You will give an account to God for your words.
 

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You can believe in Santa, the tooth fairy or Peter Pan for that matter. They are as plausible as the flat earth and glass sky theories. Believe what you like, but don't pretend that you have a real basis for your beliefs.
I don't believe in flat earth, but the examples I gave for the glass sky are valid in my mind. Comparing Moon dogs, sun dogs, rainbows, and sprites to santa, tooth fairy, or Peter Pan is totally illogical. To me this shows blind faith in the Heliocentric model, which is equal to believing in flat earth.

I told you this would end up in a shouting match, because there is no way for both of us to go up 60 miles in altitude, but for the sake of argument, can you explain how moon dogs, sun dogs, rainbows, and sprites are explained without a glass sky?

Here is a moon dog and a flashlight beam, notice how the flashlight beam is very similar to a moon dog? Guess what a flashlight has?



Look up you will see a piece of glass, or piece of plastic in front of it. And remember you said, a glass sky isn't logical.



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It is plain that a theory of measurements without a measuring-rod is like a ship without a rudder; that a measure that is not fixed, not likely to be fixed, and never has been fixed, forms no measuring-rod at all; and that as modern theoretical astronomy depends upon the Sun’s distance from the Earth as its measuring-rod, and the distance is not known, it is a system of measurements without a measuring-rod—a ship without a rudder. Now, since it is not difficult to foresee the dashing of this thing upon the rock on which Zetetic astronomy is founded, it is a proof that Earth is not a globe.