FLAT EARTH

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I am asking this question to people who believe the earth is a globe and to people who believe the earth is flat. With an unobstructed view, what is the furthest distance we should be able to see on earth?
Depends on how tall you are !!
 

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Before NASA or the Russians (who first orbited the Earth)

https://stardate.org/astro-guide/faqs/how-was-size-earth-first-measured

Earth's circumference was first accurately measured more than 2,000 years ago by the Greek astronomer Eratosthenes,
who at the time lived in the Egyptian city of Alexandria.
He had heard that in the nearby town of Syene midday sunlight shines straight down to the bottom of deep wells on the same day
each year, indicating that the Sun was directly overhead in Syene.
In Alexandria, however, sunlight on that date never reached the bottoms of wells, but instead fell upon the sides.

Eratosthenes reasoned that the difference in the angle of incoming sunlight was due to the curvature of Earth's surface,
and so by measuring this angle, he related the distance between Alexandria and Syene to the total dimension of the globe.

On the day the Sun shone on the bottom of the wells in Syene, Eratosthenes measured the Sun's position in the sky over Alexandria.
It was seven degrees away from the zenith, meaning Syene must be seven degrees away from Alexandria as measured on the circle
that is Earth's circumference.
Because seven degrees is about one 50th of a full circle (360 degrees), Eratosthenes simply multiplied the distance from Alexandria
to Syene -- believed to have been about 515 miles (830 km) -- by 50.
He calculated Earth's circumference at 26,000 miles (42,000 km), only five percent away from the modern accepted value of 24,901
miles (40,074 km).
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also an Islamic mathematician who developed trigonometry also calculated the Earth's circumference way back in the
Mediaeval period.
 

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https://owlcation.com/stem/How-to-Determin-the-Radius-of-the-Earth-Al-Birunis-Classic-Experiment

Abū Rayḥān Al-Bīrūnī, a pioneering Muslim scientist figured out a truly remarkable and ingenious method to calculate the radius of the earth (and subsequently its circumference). This method was very simple yet accurate, requiring just four measurements in all to be taken and then applying a trigonometric equation to arrive at the solution. What Biruni figured out with unprecedented accuracy and precision in the 10th century was not known to the west until the 16th century.

Abbasid Caliph Al-Mamun thus employed a team of renowned scholars of that time and assigned them the task of calculating the size of the earth. They started by finding the distance over which the sun's angle at noon changed by 1 degree, multiply it by 360 and you arrive at the circumference from which size can be deduced. They arrived at a value which was within 4% of the actual value. The problem with this method was that it was cumbersome to measure large straight line distances between two points in the heat of the desert and perhaps they only had to count paces to measure it.

Al-Biruni's Classic Method
Al-Biruni devised a more sophisticated and reliable method to achieve this objective.
To carry out his method Biruni only needed three things.
  1. An astrolabe.
  2. A suitable mountain with a flat horizon in front of it so that angle of depression of horizon could be accurately measured.
  3. Knowledge of trigonometry.
 

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https://owlcation.com/stem/How-to-Determin-the-Radius-of-the-Earth-Al-Birunis-Classic-Experiment

Abū Rayḥān Al-Bīrūnī, a pioneering Muslim scientist figured out a truly remarkable and ingenious method to calculate the radius of the earth (and subsequently its circumference). This method was very simple yet accurate, requiring just four measurements in all to be taken and then applying a trigonometric equation to arrive at the solution. What Biruni figured out with unprecedented accuracy and precision in the 10th century was not known to the west until the 16th century.

Abbasid Caliph Al-Mamun thus employed a team of renowned scholars of that time and assigned them the task of calculating the size of the earth. They started by finding the distance over which the sun's angle at noon changed by 1 degree, multiply it by 360 and you arrive at the circumference from which size can be deduced. They arrived at a value which was within 4% of the actual value. The problem with this method was that it was cumbersome to measure large straight line distances between two points in the heat of the desert and perhaps they only had to count paces to measure it.

Al-Biruni's Classic Method
Al-Biruni devised a more sophisticated and reliable method to achieve this objective.
To carry out his method Biruni only needed three things.
  1. An astrolabe.
  2. A suitable mountain with a flat horizon in front of it so that angle of depression of horizon could be accurately measured.
  3. Knowledge of trigonometry.
What are some of the long distance records pertaining to the furthest a person can see on earth with an unobstructed view? How many miles?
 

Joseppi

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Does anybody know how many miles that is?
Not far enough to reveal the curvature of the earth.
If there’s a flat earther around, “Do you all have any pertinent math that accords with a flat earth understanding?”
 

Joseppi

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Square of {Height of Eiffel 1,063ft x 2 x (3000 mile radius of earth x 5280 ft per mile)} = distance to horizon = 35 miles
 
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Upon my personal studies Gnostic views helped with the creation of mixing false science with scriptures Paul in his epistles constantly stressed about false doctrines and all kinds of it he mentioned in 1st and 2nd Timothy. In these scriptures im going to lay out the book, chapter, verse numbers and words that stand out also the strongs numbers so you can look up the definition of the original word used in the scriptures. Make sure you use a KJV and/or literal translation version because it really matters to have the literal translation of the actual Hebrew words being used and not a paraphrase and/or removal of words to fit a new age agenda version. Please take note that as believers of God's Word we should follow what scripture says and not what man says

Romans 3:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

SHAPE OF EARTH
Isaiah 40:22


STRONGS: Circle - H2328 / H2329
Curtain - H1852
Like a Tent - H168

The words here are describing a dome over the earth and the earth being a circle

Isaiah knew the difference between circle and a sphere because in previous chapters he wrote about a ball

Isaiah 22:18 - He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.

Isaiah 29:3 - And I will camp against thee round about, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raise forts against thee.

STRONGS: H1754 / The word used here is dur in hebrew

in the KJV versions the translators used Round About but literal translation being used in an interlinear version is as a circle

THE EXPANSE

Ezekial 1:22-26 -

22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

STRONGS: H7549 / H7554
word being used in Hebrew is RAQIA

Jeremiah 10:12 - He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

for the word stretched
STRONGS - NATA / H5186



COMPASS of THE EARTH
Job 26:10
- He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.
Proverb 8:27 - When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Psalms 104:9 - Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

DEFINITION of COMPASS

com·pass
ˈkəmpəs/
noun
noun: compass; plural noun: compasses; plural noun: magnetic compass; noun: pair of compasses; plural noun: pairs of compasses
  1. 1.
    an instrument containing a magnetized pointer that shows the direction of magnetic north and bearings from it.
  2. 2.
    an instrument for drawing circles and arcs and measuring distances between points, consisting of two arms linked by a movable joint, one arm ending in a point and the other usually carrying a pencil or pen.
  3. 3.
    the range or scope of something.
    "the event had political repercussions that are beyond the compass of this book"
    synonyms:scope, range, extent, reach, span, breadth, ambit, limits, parameters, bounds
    "faith cannot be defined within the compass of human thought"
    • the enclosing limits of an area.
      "this region had within its compass many types of agriculture"
    • the range of notes that can be produced by a voice or a musical instrument.
      "the cellos were playing in a rather somber part of their compass"
verb
archaic
verb: compass; 3rd person present: compasses; past tense: compassed; past participle: compassed; gerund or present participle: compassing
  1. 1.
    go around (something) in a circular course.
    "the ship wherein Magellan compassed the world"
    • surround or enclose on all sides.
      "they were compassed with numerous fierce and cruel tribes"
  2. 2.
    contrive to accomplish (something).
    "he compassed his end only by the exercise of violence"
Many indications for the word being used here is giving clues that the earth is in an enclosure

MORE SCRIPTURES

The apostles knew and the Hebrew people had a clear view of what the world was like even the ancients nations of the world had a depiction of what the earth was as a plane or flat surface in fact he warned about false science

1 Timothy 6:20-21 -
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.


2 Peter 3:5 - For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

Important to notice that the Firmament is called Heaven here

Genesis 1: 7-8
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Revelation 4:6 - And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

Ezekial 1:22 - And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

The Sun, Moon, Star gives off its own Lights

Ezekial 32:7-8
7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord God.

Exodus 24:9-10
9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Earth does not move or spin

1 Chronicles 16:30 - Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psalm 93:1 - The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

He set the world on pillars

1 Samuel 2:8 - He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

THIS IS A TOUCHDOWN BASIS UPON MY RESEARCH BUT IF SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CONVINCE YOU HERE IS THE SCIENCE IN VIDEO FORMAT NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE IN CURVATURE FOR ONE VIDEO AND A FLAT PLANE IN ANOTHER ALSO TAKE NOTE OR TESTIMONIALS

FLAT EARTH


THE STARS


This is what SCIENCE SAYS AND WHAT THE RUDIMENTS OF THE WORLD BELIEVE


THIS IS VIDEO OF A GLOBE EARTH VIDEO NOTICE THE NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE IN CURVATURES IN EACH OF THESE VIDEOS


THE RED BULL JUMP HAS TO BE THE MOST RIDICULOUS VIDEO HOAX EVER NOTICE HOW WHERE HE JUMPED FROM NEW MEXICO IS A WHOLE CONTINENT COVERING THE EARTH PAY ATTENTION TO HIS HELMET ON 3:16 AND THE EARTH AFTER HE JUMPS CONVEX AND CONCAVE AS THE CAMERA MOVES


AS YOU CAN TELL THERES SOMETHING WRONG RIGHT WELL HERE IS A LIVE VIDEO OF EARTH SUPPOSEDLY. I HAVE ANALYZED THIS VIDEO MANY TIMES AND CAN TELL YOU ITS A PRE RECORD NOTICE ITS ALWAYS IN ONE PORTION OF EARTH AND IS THE CAMERA MAN ALWAYS POINTS HIS CAM BACK AT HIMSELF WHENEVER THEY ARE GETTING TO THE DARK SIDE OF EARTH WHEN HE POINTS IT BACK IT WILL BE DAY AGAIN. YOU DO HAVE TO SIT THERE AN PROB WATCH FOR AN HOUR TO NOTICE IT BUT ITS THERE. THIS IS A CLEAR DEPICTION OF HOW WELL CGI HAS GONE TO DECEIVE PEOPLE WITH THE BLUE SCREENS
 
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SO MUCH MORE EVIDENCE OUT THERE YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE RESEARCH AND IS TOO MUCH TO PUT IN ONE POST BUT ILL LEAVE YOU WITH TESTIMONIALS, SCIENCE, FACTS ABOUT JESUITS AND ASTRONOMY AND SOME LITERATURE IN PDF FORMAT

EX-ATHEIST 40 YEARS TURNED CHRISTIAN








PILOTS EXPOSE TRUTH






EX JESUIT ALBERTO RIVERA AND TESTIMONIALS INFILTRATION OF THE CHURCH I POST THIS BECAUSE ITS PROPHECY OF HOW THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS BEEN PART OF PROPHECY IN SCRIPTURE CONCERNING DANIEL 7






HISTORY OF THE JESUITS



 
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NOTICE HOW THE POPE NOW IS STILL A JESUIT AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO POPES THE IGNATIUS THEY MENTION HERE IS NOT THE SAME IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH WHO WAS DISCIPLE OF JOHN BUT IGNATIUS OF LOYOLA THERE IS A CONNECTIONS WITH SCIENCE ASTRONOMY THE CHURCHES DOCTRINES AND EVEN THE EARTH BUT MOST OF ALL BIBLICAL PROPHECY THAT ALL CONNECTS TO THE END OF DAYS AS SHARED BELOW






SOME CHURCH HISTORY AND FLAT EARTH LINKS



https://www.5minutesinchurchhistory.com/two-disciples-of-john-ignatius/



http://geocentricworks.com/75_Bible_Versus_Prove_Flat_Earth.html









http://www.remnantofgod.org/mark.htm



http://www.the-bible-antichrist.com/beast-revelation-13.html



 
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KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE TO KEEP AND ADHERE ONLY TO SOUND DOCTRINE NOT MANS DOCTRINE
 

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So how come people don't fall off the edge?
And how come the oceans don't drain away?
What is the furthest distance we can see across a land mass from on top of a tall mountain with an unobstructed view?
 
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So how come people don't fall off the edge?
And how come the oceans don't drain away?
Proverbs 8:27 - When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

Psalm 74:14 - You have established all the boundaries of the earth; You have made summer and winter.

Job 26:10 - "He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters At the boundary of light and darkness.

Proverbs 8:29 - When He set for the sea its boundary So that the water would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth;

Flat Earth has Antarctica as the boundaries also the firmament encloses as well