How the vaccine will kill

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You guys do know that vaers is a completely unverified database that absolutely anyone can upload anything to, whether it is true or not, and that literally anyone who dies for any reason after having a vaccine will show up in a vaers search?

Like you can get mauled by a bear a year after getting a vaccination, and vaers will link your death to the vaccine, but the bear will almost certainly not be mentioned.

It is not a trustworthy source of info. As in, worse than Wikipedia. It is a tool for researchers to get an idea of trends that might be worth collecting **actual** data on.
This is a complete misrepresentation. A doctor has to be the one to enter a vaccine adverse effect case, and many are refusing to do so because they could potentially lose their medical license if they report misinformation. There is also the fact that VAERS is hard to use and entering a report is very time consuming.

Additionally, in the case of an actual vaccine related death, the last thing the bereaved family is generally pushing for is for a doctor to report the death to a government database. ALL REPORTING IS VOLUNTARY.

This is why several studies have concluded that only 1-20% of adverse effects ever get reported.
 

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This is a complete misrepresentation. A doctor has to be the one to enter a vaccine adverse effect case, and many are refusing to do so because they could potentially lose their medical license if they report misinformation. There is also the fact that VAERS is hard to use and entering a report is very time consuming.

Additionally, in the case of an actual vaccine related death, the last thing the bereaved family is generally pushing for is for a doctor to report the death to a government database. ALL REPORTING IS VOLUNTARY.

This is why several studies have concluded that only 1-20% of adverse effects ever get reported.
Of course it is. No one said one peep about VAERS until Covid, now all of a sudden they claim it can't be trusted. They are clowns enjoy the 3 ring circus. This should convince you all the more of how evil this shot is, no one of any worth or value is arguing on behalf of the vaccine, they are all shills, clowns, and wicked people.
 

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This is a complete misrepresentation. A doctor has to be the one to enter a vaccine adverse effect case, and many are refusing to do so because they could potentially lose their medical license if they report misinformation.
WOW, have you never even looked into this ??


here is a screenshot of the .pdf for submitting any kind of information, that literally anyone can download and submit:


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please not that it specifically gives the option for patient, caregiver or even 'other'
and that field is optional you don't even have to identify yourself!
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A DOCTOR TO ENTER ANYTHING INTO VAERS



here's the link, you can freely add some lies to the system if you want; only God will know:

https://vaers.hhs.gov/uploadFile/index.jsp
 
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WOW, have you never even looked into this ??


here is a screenshot of the .pdf for submitting any kind of information, that literally anyone can download and submit:


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please not that it specifically gives the option for patient, caregiver or even 'other'
and that field is optional you don't even have to identify yourself!
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A DOCTOR TO ENTER ANYTHING INTO VAERS



here's the link, you can freely add some lies to the system if you want; only God will know:

https://vaers.hhs.gov/uploadFile/index.jsp
Serious reports are followed up on.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html

Those without contact information for verification are deleted.
 

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Serious reports are followed up on.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html

Those without contact information for verification are deleted.
i can't find any of the things you said in the link you posted, and so far everything you've written to me in this thread has been utterly untrustworthy, as witnessed to in your last post where you called me a liar and replied with absolutely false statements about who can report to VAERS. your slanderous remarks were easily debunked by literally 5 seconds of checking the website in question, but instead of apologizing you come back with apparently more false statements.

SO

can you please put a screenshot highlighting specific statements equivalent to yours?

like this:

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posthuman

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What kind of person says this? Totally despicable.
a person who is fed up with purported Christians being carried away with all this conspiratorial nonsense!
 

posthuman

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i can't find any of the things you said in the link you posted. . .

SO

can you please put a screenshot highlighting specific statements equivalent to yours?

like this:
here's another example of what i'd like you to do to verify you're actually telling the truth, @JStates

"be prepared to give a reason for what you believe"

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note that i've included the URL so you know exactly where this info is coming from. from the link you provided!
it sure looks to me like it contradicts your statements...?? and corroborates mine??
 

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a person who is fed up with purported Christians being carried away with all this conspiratorial nonsense!
I get fed up too, that is not a justification to encourage people to lie.
 
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i can't find any of the things you said in the link you posted, and so far everything you've written to me in this thread has been utterly untrustworthy, as witnessed to in your last post where you called me a liar and replied with absolutely false statements about who can report to VAERS. your slanderous remarks were easily debunked by literally 5 seconds of checking the website in question, but instead of apologizing you come back with apparently more false statements.

SO

can you please put a screenshot highlighting specific statements equivalent to yours?

like this:

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You are correct that I was misinformed about who can report to VAERS.

I never said anything at all about causal relationships... but VAERS data, while not proof, is certainly evidence, as are the upticks in heart issue and sudden death after vaccination. 2+x=4 and it's not hard to work out what x is.
 

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here's something interesting:


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here someone entered into VAERS that the regular flu vaccine turned them into the incredible hulk.

only after requesting his permission to delete the entry did they remove it.

and guess what? VAERS does not require you to give contact information, at all.

so next time y'all are reading your fake-news sites getting filled with animosity, if those propaganda pieces are mentioning VAERS as evidence of anything, think twice, okay?


that's all.
 

posthuman

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as are the upticks in heart issue and sudden death after vaccination.
i think you mean increased claims of upticks and deaths you are reading - not necessarily actual ones.
but you are going to places that post things like that as clickbait, aren't you? so you are receiving an increased amount of this media to begin with. and are those media outlets reporting more of such things because you and a lot of other people are primed to be a target audience for them? a new market share to sell your views to advertisers? and aren't a lot of them citing debunked &/or untrustworthy sources? if you can't trust media X what makes you think you can trust media Y? just because they told you you can't trust media? well guess what they are: media.


people are making money off this. on both sides.

there are a lot more variables in this equation.

less like 2 + x

more like images.png
 

posthuman

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here someone entered into VAERS that the regular flu vaccine turned them into the incredible hulk.

only after requesting his permission to delete the entry did they remove it.
at least they claimed that's what they did.

who wants to try it?

do we suddenly care about verification? i hope so!!
 

posthuman

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I get fed up too, that is not a justification to encourage people to lie.
we need to all agree on a certain font or punctuation to indicate sarcasm.
 

ZNP

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we need to all agree on a certain font or punctuation to indicate sarcasm.
I use sarcasm, I don't encourage people to openly sin.