How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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GaryA

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How to prove beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

Position, somewhere on the Equator, a stationary reference "beacon" that sends out a signal in all directions -- or, at least - either East or West - with an angular range from North to South ( i.e. - 180 degrees with East / West in center - albeit, only the North 90 degrees will be significant ).

Position, on a ship / airplane, a directional receiver - such that, it can be determined with sufficient accuracy the angle ( relative to the Equator - or, directly behind ship / airplane ) the reference beacon is being detected.

Using a directional transmitter-receiver at both points would be even better.

Make sure that the signal - of whatever type - is of sufficient strength to reach a very long distance - and cannot be "blocked" by anything that might happen to come between the reference beacon and the ship / airplane.

As the ship / airplane moves away from the beacon, while staying on the equator:

~ If the Earth is a sphere, the signal will be lost soon enough because of the curvature of the earth; however, the angle from reference will never waiver from 0 degrees -- the beacon will always be directly behind the ship / airplane.

~ If the Earth is flat, the signal will be sustained for whatever distance it is capable of being detected; and, the detection angle will increase with the distance between the reference beacon and the ship / airplane.

Why? Because the ship / airplane will actually be following a circular path over the face of the Earth.

This will only work on the Equator - because, from a perspective regarding the angular part of the above suggested experiment - it is the only lattitude that is supposed to be a continual straight line all the way around the globe. And, that is why - if the results of the latter case are obtained - the Earth cannot possibly be a sphere.

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Miri

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But since we have all those satellites orbiting the planet, it might just
show the earth is round after all.

Ya know...the reason why I can ring someone on my mobile phone who
lives in Australia.




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GaryA

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But since we have all those satellites orbiting the planet, it might just
show the earth is round after all.

Ya know...the reason why I can ring someone on my mobile phone who
lives in Australia.
There are ocean-floor cables running between continents.

There are tower-to-tower microwave communication links.

There are "cell" tower communication 'access points'.

There are no satellites.

( Except the Google-balloon types? :rolleyes: )



There are no satellites. ( actually "orbiting" in space )

There is no Hubble Space Telescope. ( actually "orbiting" in space )

There is no International Space Station. ( actually "orbiting" in space )

Everything NASA says we have "in space" is a lie - a hoax - nothing but deception.



I dare anyone to actually try to prove any of it --- without using anything that NASA or any of the goverments of the world says as "proof" ( because, it is not! ).

Can you prove anything at all about the spherical earth to yourself - personally - with actual real-and-true experimental science that you yourself can actually do? Or, are you either incapable of or too lazy to think for yourself - and must "take the word of NASA and the governments of the world for it"...?



( Miri: This is directed to everyone, not just you in particular. )

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GaryA

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Miri, honey - you are missing the point of the thread -- which is - proving the Earth to be spherical or flat - only using experiments that "every-day" people could conduct on their own - without simply trusting what NASA and other government-based organizations are putting forth.

All:

Do you think we could all possibly stay on topic?

Do you have any ideas of how the 'shape' of the Earth can actually be proven to an individual by an individual?

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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Yea! Another flat Earth thread!

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Yahweh_is_gracious

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After we have this discussion, which I am just *certain* will be mature, polite, and oozing with factual information not sourced from YouTube videos...let's start another thread where we can try and debunk the moon landings. What say? Sound like fun?
 
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CharlieGrown

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“Common sense is what tells us the earth is flat.” - Albert Einstein, which proves it's not flat cuz he didn't even get through junior high.
 

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“Common sense is what tells us the earth is flat.” - Albert Einstein, which proves it's not flat cuz he didn't even get through junior high.
I do not believe that is an Albert Eibstein quote, i believe it is from stuart chase...
 
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GaryA

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“Common sense is what tells us the earth is flat.” - Albert Einstein, which proves it's not flat cuz he didn't even get through junior high.
So -- you are saying that one must [ at least ] "get through junior high" to attain to having any common sense...???
 

T_Laurich

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But personally, i dont believe we have satalites... The reason is I live out in the middle of no where... My phone says I am on a satelite but if I am driving and go down A hill i lose all service until i get above thw last hill...
A satelite should beable to shoot directly down making hills a thing of the past...
Or, for some reason, New Mexico and Colorado hills are special And are able to block satelite waves....

Cell Phones out here are all acting liwke they are on towers, and we only get better service when a new tower goes up....
 
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CharlieGrown

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So -- you are saying that one must [ at least ] "get through junior high" to attain to having any common sense...???
Not at all, inferring the opposite. Common sense does not come from time spent in school, rather from time kicking cactus with your bare feet. At least that's how I obtain what little measure I have on board.
 
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Tommy379

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You can't prove the earth is flat because the earth is round.
 
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CharlieGrown

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Tesla stated earth is not a planet. He was kinda smart. He called earth a system, like a machine and even noted the the firmament. I like my earth like I like my taxes, flat and biblical.
 

Tommy379

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But since we have all those satellites orbiting the planet, it might just
show the earth is round after all.

Ya know...the reason why I can ring someone on my mobile phone who
lives in Australia.




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Yeah, Ive flown high enough to see the curve
 
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GaryA

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But personally, i dont believe we have satalites... The reason is I live out in the middle of no where... My phone says I am on a satelite but if I am driving and go down A hill i lose all service until i get above thw last hill...
A satelite should beable to shoot directly down making hills a thing of the past...
Or, for some reason, New Mexico and Colorado hills are special And are able to block satelite waves....

Cell Phones out here are all acting liwke they are on towers, and we only get better service when a new tower goes up....
There is a very good reason for that... :D

All cell phones - as well as anything else that is considered to be "satellite" - actually communicate through cell towers.


:)
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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How to prove beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

Position, somewhere on the Equator, a stationary reference "beacon" that sends out a signal in all directions -- or, at least - either East or West - with an angular range from North to South ( i.e. - 180 degrees with East / West in center - albeit, only the North 90 degrees will be significant ).

Position, on a ship / airplane, a directional receiver - such that, it can be determined with sufficient accuracy the angle ( relative to the Equator - or, directly behind ship / airplane ) the reference beacon is being detected.

Using a directional transmitter-receiver at both points would be even better.

Make sure that the signal - of whatever type - is of sufficient strength to reach a very long distance - and cannot be "blocked" by anything that might happen to come between the reference beacon and the ship / airplane.

As the ship / airplane moves away from the beacon, while staying on the equator:

~ If the Earth is a sphere, the signal will be lost soon enough because of the curvature of the earth; however, the angle from reference will never waiver from 0 degrees -- the beacon will always be directly behind the ship / airplane.

~ If the Earth is flat, the signal will be sustained for whatever distance it is capable of being detected; and, the detection angle will increase with the distance between the reference beacon and the ship / airplane.

Why? Because the ship / airplane will actually be following a circular path over the face of the Earth.

This will only work on the Equator - because, from a perspective regarding the angular part of the above suggested experiment - it is the only lattitude that is supposed to be a continual straight line all the way around the globe. And, that is why - if the results of the latter case are obtained - the Earth cannot possibly be a sphere.

:)
this experiment neglects the fact that radio signals also bounce off of various layers in the earth's ionosphere and even the moon...
 
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CharlieGrown

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Yeah, Ive flown high enough to see the curve
Maybe the window you were looking out of was bubble shaped? Kinda like a fish eye lens on a camera.
 

Tommy379

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I know the earth is round because I've pointed a yagi antenna the west and talked to a man in England.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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There are ocean-floor cables running between continents.

There are tower-to-tower microwave communication links.

There are "cell" tower communication 'access points'.

There are no satellites.

( Except the Google-balloon types? :rolleyes: )



There are no satellites. ( actually "orbiting" in space )

There is no Hubble Space Telescope. ( actually "orbiting" in space )

There is no International Space Station. ( actually "orbiting" in space )

Everything NASA says we have "in space" is a lie - a hoax - nothing but deception.



I dare anyone to actually try to prove any of it --- without using anything that NASA or any of the goverments of the world says as "proof" ( because, it is not! ).

Can you prove anything at all about the spherical earth to yourself - personally - with actual real-and-true experimental science that you yourself can actually do? Or, are you either incapable of or too lazy to think for yourself - and must "take the word of NASA and the governments of the world for it"...?



( Miri: This is directed to everyone, not just you in particular. )

:)
amateur astronomers have taken photos of the international space station and space shuttle in orbit...for example...

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also thousands of amateur astronomers regularly observe satellites passing overhead and know when and where to look due to the orbital data available on the satellites...
 

Tommy379

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I know the earth is round because John Glenn don't lie.