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I appreciate the link. 
Unfortunately, at the moment, I am unable to view it. However, I do plan to watch it as soon as I am able to get past the technical difficulties...
Unfortunately, at the moment, I am unable to view it. However, I do plan to watch it as soon as I am able to get past the technical difficulties...
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Ours...
( But, other governments also take part in "keeping an eye out" for 'intruders'. )
By saying 'whole' earth, I meant having a single complete picture in which could be seen the entire 'circular' edge of the sphere of the earth - along with the entire complete area of that sphere "on this side of the edge" - "all together at the same time in the same picture"...
( But, other governments also take part in "keeping an eye out" for 'intruders'. )
By saying 'whole' earth, I meant having a single complete picture in which could be seen the entire 'circular' edge of the sphere of the earth - along with the entire complete area of that sphere "on this side of the edge" - "all together at the same time in the same picture"...
Miri, honey - you are missing the point of the thread -- which is - proving the Earth to be spherical or flat - only using experiments that "every-day" people could conduct on their own - without simply trusting what NASA and other government-based organizations are putting forth.
All:
Do you think we could all possibly stay on topic?
Do you have any ideas of how the 'shape' of the Earth can actually be proven to an individual by an individual?
All:
Do you think we could all possibly stay on topic?
Do you have any ideas of how the 'shape' of the Earth can actually be proven to an individual by an individual?
Gary,
Buddy, I've been around the world in both directions several times. I've also climbed a tall mountain and saw the horizon. If the world was flat, how thick do you think it is? Volcano's store their lava somewhere. Oil comes from somewhere. Do the majority of stars move? They appear to move because we rotate. Has anyone ever seen the edge of the world?
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Did the horizon appear to be flat from the top of the mountain? How far [ away ] could you see from the top of the mountain? Did the horizon look any different from the top of the mountain than it does closer to sea-level?
I have been on mountains, too. I have never been on Mount Everest. But, I have been to Pikes Peak of the Front Range mountains in Colorado. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to places in Arizona where you could see for miles-and-miles-and-miles across the desert - all the way to the distant mountains to the West. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to the California Pacific Coast and looked out over the ocean to the horizon. It was flat as far as the eye could see!
( I have been to a few other [ relevant ] places that I will not bother to mention; however, my point should be pretty clear by now... )
Please tell me where you have ever been -- where, there was absolutely-nothing between your eyeballs and the horizon ( that might 'fish-eye' skew the view, etc. ) - where, you actually could see "anything-but" a flat horizon...
My eyeballs tell me that I have never in my life seen "anything-but" a flat horizon.
However thick God made it.
Whether it was 10 miles, 100 miles, or 1000 miles thick -- would not 'negate' it from being flat.
We are stationary, like the Bible says. The sun, moon, and stars [ move in a ] 'circle' up above us.
Assuming you mean the actual physical limit - not as far as we know...
I have been on mountains, too. I have never been on Mount Everest. But, I have been to Pikes Peak of the Front Range mountains in Colorado. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to places in Arizona where you could see for miles-and-miles-and-miles across the desert - all the way to the distant mountains to the West. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to the California Pacific Coast and looked out over the ocean to the horizon. It was flat as far as the eye could see!
( I have been to a few other [ relevant ] places that I will not bother to mention; however, my point should be pretty clear by now... )
Please tell me where you have ever been -- where, there was absolutely-nothing between your eyeballs and the horizon ( that might 'fish-eye' skew the view, etc. ) - where, you actually could see "anything-but" a flat horizon...
My eyeballs tell me that I have never in my life seen "anything-but" a flat horizon.
However thick God made it.
Whether it was 10 miles, 100 miles, or 1000 miles thick -- would not 'negate' it from being flat.
We are stationary, like the Bible says. The sun, moon, and stars [ move in a ] 'circle' up above us.
Assuming you mean the actual physical limit - not as far as we know...
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Did the horizon appear to be flat from the top of the mountain? How far [ away ] could you see from the top of the mountain? Did the horizon look any different from the top of the mountain than it does closer to sea-level?
I have been on mountains, too. I have never been on Mount Everest. But, I have been to Pikes Peak of the Front Range mountains in Colorado. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to places in Arizona where you could see for miles-and-miles-and-miles across the desert - all the way to the distant mountains to the West. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to the California Pacific Coast and looked out over the ocean to the horizon. It was flat as far as the eye could see!
( I have been to a few other [ relevant ] places that I will not bother to mention; however, my point should be pretty clear by now... )
Please tell me where you have ever been -- where, there was absolutely-nothing between your eyeballs and the horizon ( that might 'fish-eye' skew the view, etc. ) - where, you actually could see "anything-but" a flat horizon...
My eyeballs tell me that I have never in my life seen "anything-but" a flat horizon.
However thick God made it.
Whether it was 10 miles, 100 miles, or 1000 miles thick -- would not 'negate' it from being flat.
We are stationary, like the Bible says. The sun, moon, and stars [ move in a ] 'circle' up above us.
Assuming you mean the actual physical limit - not as far as we know...
I have been on mountains, too. I have never been on Mount Everest. But, I have been to Pikes Peak of the Front Range mountains in Colorado. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to places in Arizona where you could see for miles-and-miles-and-miles across the desert - all the way to the distant mountains to the West. The horizon was flat for 360 degrees around.
I have been to the California Pacific Coast and looked out over the ocean to the horizon. It was flat as far as the eye could see!
( I have been to a few other [ relevant ] places that I will not bother to mention; however, my point should be pretty clear by now... )
Please tell me where you have ever been -- where, there was absolutely-nothing between your eyeballs and the horizon ( that might 'fish-eye' skew the view, etc. ) - where, you actually could see "anything-but" a flat horizon...
My eyeballs tell me that I have never in my life seen "anything-but" a flat horizon.
However thick God made it.
Whether it was 10 miles, 100 miles, or 1000 miles thick -- would not 'negate' it from being flat.
We are stationary, like the Bible says. The sun, moon, and stars [ move in a ] 'circle' up above us.
Assuming you mean the actual physical limit - not as far as we know...
you were told and shown.
even given links to Japan's Himawari satellite data, which takes exactly the picture you're asking for every 10 minutes.
here's another one.
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/gms/largec.html?area=6&element=1&time=201611272230
so since you have already been shown many times the things you keep asking to see, what does that make you?
and since you deny you have been given what has been given to you, what does that make you?
here's what the earth looks like less than 3 hours ago, on the opposite side of the Americas.
have fun ignoring the truth.
((that's not Christian to do))
K
The astronomical predictions of Ptolemy's Geocentric model were used to prepare astrological and astronomical charts for over 1500 years. (wikipedia) and yet...how many today have even heard of him? I certainly had not until I stopped believing in monkey man science.
NASA documents on linear flight?~NASA does flight calculations according to a non-Rotating flat earth. just sayin...
Research these guys that gave us all the theories that are now the foundation for "accepted science". Who were these men? So far, from what I can tell they are about as evil and corrupt as today's people in power.
For clarification, I've been on flights, ships, mountains, deserts, know how to use a bubble level, don't care if you think I'm stupid.
For truth's sake, since the Bible describes a flat earth, and most people-different religions, for around 4000 years believed it...cast off your government education just this once and look at the evidence. If you think the official pics and vids look real.....nevermind, you've watched far too many cartoons and sifi movies, which btw-were those hollywood movies filmed in outer space?
NASA documents on linear flight?~NASA does flight calculations according to a non-Rotating flat earth. just sayin...
Research these guys that gave us all the theories that are now the foundation for "accepted science". Who were these men? So far, from what I can tell they are about as evil and corrupt as today's people in power.
For clarification, I've been on flights, ships, mountains, deserts, know how to use a bubble level, don't care if you think I'm stupid.
For truth's sake, since the Bible describes a flat earth, and most people-different religions, for around 4000 years believed it...cast off your government education just this once and look at the evidence. If you think the official pics and vids look real.....nevermind, you've watched far too many cartoons and sifi movies, which btw-were those hollywood movies filmed in outer space?
where appropriate.
like within the atmosphere over relatively short distances.
i've had a graduate course detailing the 8 to 12 different types of coordinate systems used in interplanetary and intraplanetary mapping and travel.
you watched a conspiracy theory video on you-tube that showed you an unrelated image while it told you 20 seconds of flat-out lies, half-truths and misinformation.
so . .
and so it's safe to assume you've looked into Eric Dubay's character and credentials?
((btw yes, i've heard of Ptolemy. i spent 5 years studying astrophysics in university and a lifetime outside of school self-educating. and have you heard of men like Jacob, a sinner just as much, who God also used?))
((btw yes, i've heard of Ptolemy. i spent 5 years studying astrophysics in university and a lifetime outside of school self-educating. and have you heard of men like Jacob, a sinner just as much, who God also used?))