How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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GaryA

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Here is another question to consider:

Does the "pull" of the moon affect anything other than water?

If not, then -- why not?

If it does, then -- what effects would there be from it?

( other liquids... gases... ? )
If the "pull" of the moon has such a great effect on the oceans --- why does it have no effect whatsoever on a butterfly or a soap bubble floating in air?
 

GaryA

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We have all heard that "they say" the "pull" of the moon will [ even ] affect the water in our body / brain.
If the "pull" of the moon has such a great effect on the oceans --- that much force would [literally] pick us up off the ground and we would float in the air somewhere above the earth.
 

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The moon does pull on everything including us. However we're a solid so it's not something you can notice. Gravity pulls us down to the earth at a greater force.

Water is a liquid and so it's easier to manipulate and we can see it move.
 

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If the "pull" of the moon has such a great effect on the oceans --- that much force would [literally] pick us up off the ground and we would float in the air somewhere above the earth.
That's a very simplistic and, frankly, ignorant assessment of the situation.

Does the moon lift the ocean out of its basins? No. The water is still bound by Earth's gravity, as are we. The volume of water that is moved in tidal flows is very small compared to the entire volume of the oceans. Because the oceans are so vast, we are able to notice the effects. We don't notice the effects on relatively tiny objects such as raindrops, clouds, and ourselves.
 

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That's a very simplistic and, frankly, ignorant assessment of the situation.

Does the moon lift the ocean out of its basins? No. The water is still bound by Earth's gravity, as are we. The volume of water that is moved in tidal flows is very small compared to the entire volume of the oceans. Because the oceans are so vast, we are able to notice the effects. We don't notice the effects on relatively tiny objects such as raindrops, clouds, and ourselves.
Some people very much notice the effects of the moon's pull within themselves :D

Others call it "lunacy" ;)
 

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That's a very simplistic and, frankly, ignorant assessment of the situation.

Does the moon lift the ocean out of its basins? No. The water is still bound by Earth's gravity, as are we. The volume of water that is moved in tidal flows is very small compared to the entire volume of the oceans. Because the oceans are so vast, we are able to notice the effects. We don't notice the effects on relatively tiny objects such as raindrops, clouds, and ourselves.
You are not understanding the physics...
 

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And you are? Oh, bring it on! Explain the physics for us, O wise one!
Perhaps, one of these days, when I have enough time to spend on it...

BTW - there is a difference between 'knowledge', 'understanding', and 'wisdom'. Don't get 'em confused. :)
 

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Does the moon lift the ocean out of its basins? No. The water is still bound by Earth's gravity, as are we.
Yet, the moon is able to "lift" the oceans enough to raise the water level several feet so that the tides come in???

Modern science says the gravitational force of the moon "pulls" the ocean waters - causing them to 'swell' - shifting the waters - causing the tides to come in at a height difference of several feet.

The volume of water that is moved in tidal flows is very small compared to the entire volume of the oceans.
No matter how you look at it, it is still a massive amount of water being moved.

Do you realize just how much water has to be moved to raise the water level several feet?

Because the oceans are so vast, we are able to notice the effects.
In other words, you agree with me 100% that this represents the movement of huge massive amounts of water...?

We don't notice the effects on relatively tiny objects such as raindrops, clouds, and ourselves.
BUT YOU SHOULD!

That is the point.

The same [gravitational] force would be applied to raindrops, butterflies, and soap bubbles.

The same force applied to the water in a human brain would no-doubt kill the person.

If you say you agree with modern science, then you believe the gravitational force of the moon is able to overcome the localized gravitational force of a much larger and more massive earth - enough to 'swell' and shift ocean waters to cause several-feet-changes in tides - from a great remote distance out in space - while having no effect whatsoever on raindrops, butterflies, bees, flies, gnats, or floating soap bubbles.
 

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Perhaps, one of these days, when I have enough time to spend on it...

BTW - there is a difference between 'knowledge', 'understanding', and 'wisdom'. Don't get 'em confused. :)

Gary, this video puts an end to the flat earth theory.

The boat is sinking, bottom first. If the earth is flat, the boat would just shrink in size, disagree?

If you question the video, you can easily try this experiment in a large body of water, lake, or a calm day at sea.




Proves concave earth also, since in a concave earth, you will be always sinking from a point, while a convex earth, the the boat would be rising.

Comments?
 

Billyd

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Gary, this video puts an end to the flat earth theory.

The boat is sinking, bottom first. If the earth is flat, the boat would just shrink in size, disagree?

If you question the video, you can easily try this experiment in a large body of water, lake, or a calm day at sea.




Proves concave earth also, since in a concave earth, you will be always sinking from a point, while a convex earth, the the boat would be rising.

Comments?
OK, I'll bite. If we are on the inside of a concave earth, like the flat earth, nothing would go over the horizon. Travel on the surface in any direction, and you will disappear bottom to top as you travel over the horizon. I have spent many days on the bridge of a ship, and observed many ships do just that. That one observable fact debunks all flat earth and concave earth theories.

The earth is round. Accept it and move on.
 

kinda

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OK, I'll bite. If we are on the inside of a concave earth, like the flat earth, nothing would go over the horizon. Travel on the surface in any direction, and you will disappear bottom to top as you travel over the horizon. I have spent many days on the bridge of a ship, and observed many ships do just that. That one observable fact debunks all flat earth and concave earth theories.

The earth is round. Accept it and move on.
You don't understand the concave earth my friend.

Here is a model for you to look at.

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Ever heard of the term mother earth? Well, the mother earth saying, works much better with a concave earth model.


 

kinda

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Covex earth, living on the outside example
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This hill represents in this demonstration, the ocean on a convex earth. The view of the ship at the top would disappear, the further it moves away from you.

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This meteroid hole represents a concave earth (living inside the earth), you would lose the view of the ships bottom, the further it travels.

Think it through, it's a difficult concept. I almost had an aneurysm figuring this out. Give it at least five minutes, before you respond.
 

Billyd

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You don't understand the concave earth my friend.

Here is a model for you to look at.

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Ever heard of the term mother earth? Well, the mother earth saying, works much better with a concave earth model.



Concave earth doesn't pass muster on any front.
 

Billyd

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Take a laser and point it perpendicular to your position. If you observe it from a point on either side of it, it will never touch the ground again, nor will it be parallel to the surface of the earth.
 

Billyd

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Concave earth doesn't pass muster on any front.