In our firmament...where do asteroids come from?

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HealthAndHappiness

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Also, the video didn't have a ton details. Calling them astronauts is hilarious though. The guy wore a space suit at the county fair, if you call that training to fly a spaceship, than maybe that is a really loose definition. lol

Very informative website for the event....Not!

https://www.moondao.com/dude-perfect

Here is the main site.

https://www.moondao.com/

They are calling themselves moondao, but they got up 40 miles above sea level. I'm not saying, it's fake, but there surely is missing some information for skeptics to sift through. Most will probably believe it without questioning anything, but at least give me some flight data, history of the space craft, and some technical aspects of the ship. Just believe it, don't question anything is probably what they want you to think.

I do have questions about this flight, but I think it's possible, but also think it's possible, it was faked. I mean what happens if the flight went wrong? Can you imagine the lawsuits? How would risk their life for a 10 minute flight? These guys? Maybe.

O.k., that about sums it up.
They might have been kidding about calling them astronauts.. I only said, The flight was pretty interesting considering astronauts are no longer featured.... meaning that it's been a long time since I saw an actual astronaut video. At least we get to see "normal" people are doing these special flights.
The last astronaut I saw on TV was Colonel Austin's test flight.
 

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Also, the video didn't have a ton details. Calling them astronauts is hilarious though. The guy wore a space suit at the county fair, if you call that training to fly a spaceship, than maybe that is a really loose definition. lol

Very informative website for the event....Not!

https://www.moondao.com/dude-perfect

Here is the main site.

https://www.moondao.com/

They are calling themselves moondao, but they got up 40 miles above sea level. I'm not saying, it's fake, but there surely is missing some information for skeptics to sift through. Most will probably believe it without questioning anything, but at least give me some flight data, history of the space craft, and some technical aspects of the ship. Just believe it, don't question anything is probably what they want you to think.

I do have questions about this flight, but I think it's possible, but also think it's possible, it was faked. I mean what happens if the flight went wrong? Can you imagine the lawsuits? How would risk their life for a 10 minute flight? These guys? Maybe.

O.k., that about sums it up.
Thanks for providing the links.
I was working who's rocket program since they might have barely mentioned it.
I thought it might have been Elon Musk's program...but it looks like there's no mention of him.
 

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I was a little disappointed that they didn't show good lengthy observations from the windows. They gave a short snapshot from the time they left the ground compared to the rest of the story leading up to the launch.
Did you wonder why?

At least it's a non-NASA video of the global shape to put the debate to rest.
Who funded the flight? NASA has taken billions in tax payer funds. Are you aware that the cost of setting up a shell company, or a series of shell companies, is a mere fraction of this? If NASA lied about their space videos, is it not conceivable that a shell company of NASA, or even an independent group, could also create some space videos to continue the lie? A lot of people woke up to NASA's lies in the past two decades - there's plenty of time there to set up any number of NASA replacements (i.e. organisations continuing the same lie as NASA, but without the history of deception/fraud, as these organisations would be new starts).
 

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[QUOTE="Moses_Young, post: 5144008]Did you wonder why?

Yes I do. These guys have always kept things very entertaining and avoided going educational so to appeal to the masses it seems. This event was over the top in that regard. They have one of the most popular YouTube channels and don't want to mess that up, however the focus was on the emotions of the star of the show rather than the event, and that to a fault.

Who funded the flight? NASA has taken billions in tax payer funds. Are you aware that the cost of setting up a shell company, or a series of shell companies, is a mere fraction of this? If NASA lied about their space videos, is it not conceivable that a shell company of NASA, or even an independent group, could also create some space videos to continue the lie? A lot of people woke up to NASA's lies in the past two decades - there's plenty of time there to set up any number of NASA replacements (i.e. organisations continuing the same lie as NASA, but without the history of deception/fraud, as these organisations would be new starts). (End Quote)

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You are very smart and have a lot of sense so I will keep my mind open to that possibility of NASA owning this company. The C👁️A owns hundreds of companies, so that's not beyond the realm of possibilities.
 

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I was a little disappointed that they didn't show good lengthy observations from the windows. They gave a short snapshot from the time they left the ground compared to the rest of the story leading up to the launch. At least it's a non-NASA video of the global shape to put the debate to rest.
It was disappointing, but it gives hope that just around the corner, people will be having their honeymoon on the moon. Possibly even tomorrow. lol To the Moondao!
 

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It was disappointing, but it gives hope that just around the corner, people will be having their honeymoon on the moon. Possibly even tomorrow. lol To the Moondao!
ralph kramden would be proud!!

( if you know, you know)
 

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I heard sometime back about these launches so there's gotta be more videos out there.
There are - and, the ones I have seen - the landings are launches in reverse and edited to try to make it look more like a landing than a launch. If you watch any of them, be sure to examine closely the smoke patterns, etc.
 

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There are - and, the ones I have seen - the landings are launches in reverse and edited to try to make it look more like a landing than a launch. If you watch any of them, be sure to examine closely the smoke patterns, etc.
Interesting.
I've seen some stunts like that lately, but will keep my eyes open for the rockets. I know nothing about astrophysics, but it seems to me like there would either need to be stabilizers along the sides or something like the chute on the capsule to keep everything upright. I'll go back and look at that main tube landing again.
 

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200,000 feet is about 38 miles, I did state firmament was at the 60 mile mark, but giving those people a 20 mile cushion, so they don't become pancakes is smart. Trust me, they didn't go near the 60 mile mark, due to safety. Of course they didn't show the max altitude, because that would be to informative.

As far as the shape your seeing there, I believe it's being distorted due to human eye ability, and the firmament/space. Instead of floating around and acting giddy, they could of done some science. Maybe there weren't allowed to bring a high powered telescopes with them due to safety, but they brought video cameras. Maybe zooming in at the edge of the horizon would of been revealing, but hey, it makes for a feel good video, that promotes the Heliocentric model.

Hopefully my viewpoint is taken the wrong way, you have to be a detective, and think for yourself, or you will be easily manipulated.
At 9:46 they show around a megar 10 seconds of visual of the same shape and familiar atmosphere that I've seen since a child. When I saw them devote so little time to the focus on earth just to see a ping pong ball and the occupants celebrating, that seemed suspect.

The earth image all seems consistent, so I have a hard time believing that it's a distortion if an exaggerated perfectly global image through a fish eye cameral lens. I checked the horizon and it looks like it's below them to me. What do you think?
 

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There are - and, the ones I have seen - the landings are launches in reverse and edited to try to make it look more like a landing than a launch. If you watch any of them, be sure to examine closely the smoke patterns, etc.
I checked out the main tube/ thruster landing. There appears to be side thrusters on the top, but there's nothing strange about the landing that I can detect. The jet thrust upon capsule landing is not visible from the camera angle. Before that there's a short clip of it from below which might be another stock footage. I can't tell for sure either way.
 

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The earth image all seems consistent, so I have a hard time believing that it's a distortion if an exaggerated perfectly global image through a fish eye cameral lens.
Do you realize and understand that it is the fish eye camera lens that creates the majority of the distortion of the image?
 

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At 9:46 they show around a megar 10 seconds of visual of the same shape and familiar atmosphere that I've seen since a child. When I saw them devote so little time to the focus on earth just to see a ping pong ball and the occupants celebrating, that seemed suspect.

The earth image all seems consistent, so I have a hard time believing that it's a distortion if an exaggerated perfectly global image through a fish eye cameral lens. I checked the horizon and it looks like it's below them to me. What do you think?
Yeah, I think this thread was an undercover flat earth thread, so I think I'm out.

If you didn't see any distortion of the shape of the earth in that video, than watch it again. It sorta got warped the short time it was filmed.
 

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Yeah, I think this thread was an undercover flat earth thread, so I think I'm out.

If you didn't see any distortion of the shape of the earth in that video, than watch it again. It sorta got warped the short time it was filmed.
What should I look for?
You don't mean it was flat and had a fish eye effect, so just wondering.
 

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What should I look for?
You don't mean it was flat and had a fish eye effect, so just wondering.
I watched it again in slow motion, it just looked like the camera was moving, so I take it back. I thought it flattened out in the first time I watched it.

Further proof of the firmament/glass sky is that space begins at the 62 mile mark.

The Kármán line

"The Kármán line is a boundary 62 miles (100 kilometers) above mean sea level that borders Earth's atmosphere and the beginning of space."

https://www.space.com/karman-line-w...e Kármán line is a,and the beginning of space.
 

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[QUOTE="Moses_Young, post: 5144008]Did you wonder why?

Yes I do. These guys have always kept things very entertaining and avoided going educational so to appeal to the masses it seems. This event was over the top in that regard. They have one of the most popular YouTube channels and don't want to mess that up, however the focus was on the emotions of the star of the show rather than the event, and that to a fault.

Who funded the flight? NASA has taken billions in tax payer funds. Are you aware that the cost of setting up a shell company, or a series of shell companies, is a mere fraction of this? If NASA lied about their space videos, is it not conceivable that a shell company of NASA, or even an independent group, could also create some space videos to continue the lie? A lot of people woke up to NASA's lies in the past two decades - there's plenty of time there to set up any number of NASA replacements (i.e. organisations continuing the same lie as NASA, but without the history of deception/fraud, as these organisations would be new starts). (End Quote)

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You are very smart and have a lot of sense so I will keep my mind open to that possibility of NASA owning this company. The C👁️A owns hundreds of companies, so that's not beyond the realm of possibilities.
I don't think so much in terms of NASA literally owning the company, but more in terms of the spirit of those pushing NASA being the same spirit as those pushing the other space flight agendas. Similar to the idea of those pushing the fake vaxx are the same people as those pushing the WHO/WEF agenda. They're all in this together.
 

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I don't think so much in terms of NASA literally owning the company, but more in terms of the spirit of those pushing NASA being the same spirit as those pushing the other space flight agendas. Similar to the idea of those pushing the fake vaxx are the same people as those pushing the WHO/WEF agenda. They're all in this together.
I can understand that. There was a mini documentary on NASA's history and how occult certain parts were. I don't think that of the vast majority of the employees, but their primary focus has often been to spend billions of dollars with the mission to "prove" that God does not exist. Water on other planets is their prophetic sign of their fake religion that life exists on other planets, hence the Bible is fiction, hence by implications they make God out to be a lie.
Of course we know, "Let God be true and every man a liar."

I have found in personal contacts locally that the converse has also been the case. With these people, they heard the truth in certain cases, rejected the Biblical truth. Why?
Because they learned a few things like we have from various sources....9// Truth, etc. Then they projected that scepticism upon everything except for a few chosen sources. For instance, one guy got a medium sized group together for weekly discussion of esoteric topics. Next thing he gets obsessed with the flat earth topic. The next step was to reject clear Biblical fundamentals for the Hebrew Roots teachings. He started reading a book from one of the cult leaders and eventually rejected Jesus, (not that he ever got saved), and is now leading others to reject Christ .

I know you are nothing like that Moses.
It's just a trend I saw with a handful and I caution you my friend to be very wary because the devil has his influence in a lot of places, even in the truth movement.
I commend you for not going down that path.
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This subject comes to mind as I just learned of a pastor that I heard of. I never listened to more than a few minutes of his sermons, but he started going way off when he started teaching about the flat earth topic. I thought it might be a fluke until now.
Have you ever heard of Pastor Tyler Doka?
He started a Baptist church in NY.
 

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I don't think so much in terms of NASA literally owning the company, but more in terms of the spirit of those pushing NASA being the same spirit as those pushing the other space flight agendas. Similar to the idea of those pushing the fake vaxx are the same people as those pushing the WHO/WEF agenda. They're all in this together.

BTW, I in no way think that everyone who is up on the flat earth info is like this guy, Doka, at all.
I agree with you about NASA being full of all kinds of lies and have made some acquaintances mad for saying that and funding of the space program should stop.
They even have a station in my state and I've known some who worked there as scientists.
At the same, I have seen some people go off the deep end of Biblical thought when they started their dive into the topic. Maybe you have some insight and have seen some of that? I personally don't care what someone believes in that topic . To me it doesn't make a difference. That's why we can kid around about it and no big deal.
I do appreciate your comments.

Here's an extreme example of someone who lost his church and family. This is that pastor Doka that I just learned about in case you are curious.