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PennEd

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What are you blabbering on about? He responded to your post where you decided to sling an insult in an unchristian fashion, rather than actually address the argument. You couldn't address the argument, because you don't have an actual argument to make. Instead of admitting you were wrong, you decided to go completely off-topic and break the forum rules instead by being disrespectful. If you actually had a case, you would have made it, rather than resort to childish antics.

PS:

I really need to learn to use the multi quote function. My bad everyone. I'll do better in the future.
Still causing trouble, and trolling I see.

Must be another slow day in evil commieland!
 
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According to Rasmussen poll 64% of Americans blame Biden for the inflation

These are the wrong questions! There are Americans who see this as the end of the age, the apocalypse, the Lord's day and that all things are under God. There are other Americans who take the word to "not grumble" to heart. Then there are Americans who are so disinterested in politics they don't know and don't care.

Also I would point out that in these days where the DOJ is weaponized against parents at school board meetings people will be concerned about the word "blame". I think the word "responsible" is a far better word to use. I also think this question should be framed in the negative. If you ask if Biden is responsible it suggests "fully" or "totally". It is reasonable that many are seeing many factors. But if you ask if Biden is not responsible then those who don't hold him fully responsible would also respond.

Instead, I suspect you will get something like 22% saying Biden is not responsible. This is not wild speculation but based on a variety of polls that we have seen in the last year and the bias we see in their responses towards the democrats.
That's because Americans are completely ignorant about the powers of the presidency, and about economics. No. The president is NOT responsible for inflation! I've said that when Bush Jr. was president. When Obama was president. When Trump was president. And now with Biden.

The president has very little to do with inflation. And besides, this isn't inflation that we are seeing right now anyway. This is pure greed by the oil companies taking advantage of an event in Europe. That's all this is.
 
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Still causing trouble, and trolling I see.

Must be another slow day in evil commieland!
I'm the troll, yet you're the one that's been throwing around nothing but ad hominems and contributing nothing to the conversation. πŸ˜‚
 

ZNP

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That's because Americans are completely ignorant about the powers of the presidency, and about economics. No. The president is NOT responsible for inflation! I've said that when Bush Jr. was president. When Obama was president. When Trump was president. And now with Biden.

The president has very little to do with inflation. And besides, this isn't inflation that we are seeing right now anyway. This is pure greed by the oil companies taking advantage of an event in Europe. That's all this is.
There are a multitude of factors involved, however, the policy of the president, the Fed, and the spending bills passed by Congress do have an impact on inflation.

1. Biden shutting down the pipeline and drilling in the US has caused our domestic production to decrease and caused us to once again import fossil fuel. That is inflationary.

2. Biden's policies concerning the pandemic have resulted in bottlenecks in the supply chain and that also is inflationary.

3. Biden's catastrophic exit from Afghanistan encouraged Putin to invade Ukraine. Not only so but his very clear signal that if Putin did invade he wouldn't do anything was also a very strong encouragement and finally his signal to Ukraine to join NATO was equivalent to begging Putin to invade. So if you want to credit Putin's invasion as being inflationary (and it certainly is) then yes, Biden bares responsibility for that.

4. Another impact of Biden's actions is that Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia have hammered out an agreement to sell oil with gold backed security. That will have a huge impact on inflation.

5. Biden has put sanctions on Russia that will be hugely inflationary causing the price of oil to go up and the cost of fertilizer to skyrocket and the cost of wheat to skyrocket.

6. Biden's corruption with his son which is now admitted by the NYT causes instability and uncertainty in the markets. The worst things for markets is "uncertainty". That is certainly Biden's fault.

7. Biden blew up Russia's banks, stock market and ruble, that is going to provoke a retaliation and that also will be inflationary.

8. We now have evidence of the US' hand in at least 3 bioweapons labs involved in designing bioweapons (Wuhan and two labs in the Ukraine). If evidence comes out that the US was involved in the pandemic you can be sure that 100 countries will attack us, probably not with weapons but economically. That will be inflationary.

9. Now add to this the irresponsible spending of Congress and that is certainly because Biden will rubber stamp whatever they do. That is inflationary.

10. The Fed has been irresponsible during this time. They could have come out saying if you pass these spending bills we'll raise interest rates. This also is a factor.
 
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There are a multitude of factors involved, however, the policy of the president, the Fed, and the spending bills passed by Congress do have an impact on inflation.

1. Biden shutting down the pipeline and drilling in the US has caused our domestic production to decrease and caused us to once again import fossil fuel. That is inflationary.

2. Biden's policies concerning the pandemic have resulted in bottlenecks in the supply chain and that also is inflationary.

3. Biden's catastrophic exit from Afghanistan encouraged Putin to invade Ukraine. Not only so but his very clear signal that if Putin did invade he wouldn't do anything was also a very strong encouragement and finally his signal to Ukraine to join NATO was equivalent to begging Putin to invade. So if you want to credit Putin's invasion as being inflationary (and it certainly is) then yes, Biden bares responsibility for that.

4. Another impact of Biden's actions is that Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia have hammered out an agreement to sell oil with gold backed security. That will have a huge impact on inflation.

5. Biden has put sanctions on Russia that will be hugely inflationary causing the price of oil to go up and the cost of fertilizer to skyrocket and the cost of wheat to skyrocket.

6. Biden's corruption with his son which is now admitted by the NYT causes instability and uncertainty in the markets. The worst things for markets is "uncertainty". That is certainly Biden's fault.

7. Biden blew up Russia's banks, stock market and ruble, that is going to provoke a retaliation and that also will be inflationary.

8. We now have evidence of the US' hand in at least 3 bioweapons labs involved in designing bioweapons (Wuhan and two labs in the Ukraine). If evidence comes out that the US was involved in the pandemic you can be sure that 100 countries will attack us, probably not with weapons but economically. That will be inflationary.

9. Now add to this the irresponsible spending of Congress and that is certainly because Biden will rubber stamp whatever they do. That is inflationary.

10. The Fed has been irresponsible during this time. They could have come out saying if you pass these spending bills we'll raise interest rates. This also is a factor.
I would add the consumer that will not say no to those things not necessary.
Most people will pay any price if they want it and can get it on credit.
 

ZNP

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I would add the consumer that will not say no to those things not necessary.
Most people will pay any price if they want it and can get it on credit.
We are in a world market. If someone making $100,000 a year will "pay any price" what about the guy making $50,000, that person stops buying medicine, and then what about 93% of the world that makes less than $20,000 a year. For them if you food goes up by 40% they buy 40% less food.

15% of the world lives on $2 a day or less. If you make that little they will simply starve. That is approximately 1 billion people.
 
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We are in a world market. If someone making $100,000 a year will "pay any price" what about the guy making $50,000, that person stops buying medicine, and then what about 93% of the world that makes less than $20,000 a year. For them if you food goes up by 40% they buy 40% less food.

15% of the world lives on $2 a day or less. If you make that little they will simply starve. That is approximately 1 billion people.
I often see people using food stamps to buy food. Have no problem with that.
But they then use cash to buy tobacco, beer, and lottery tickets, while talking on $500 cell phones.
So even some poor can and do contribute.
 

JTB

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you're the one that's been throwing around nothing but ad hominems and contributing nothing to the conversation. πŸ˜‚
Hey!!!

Whatya know!

We agree on something!
 

ZNP

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73% of US winter wheat areas are experiencing a drought
 

ZNP

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Inflation --> Famine --> Riots

 

ZNP

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Walgreens is rationing baby formula, Thailand has shut the banks down for the weekend, Sri Lanka and Peru are both experiencing food shortages, Shanghai is locked down, perhaps the biggest city in the world economically with 26 million people and they can't eat, the world's food price index is up 60% since 2020, the European price index is up 31%, and as long as we are already accusing Russia of war crimes they might as well go for broke.

The good news is that everyone is being very orderly and polite about the sinking of the world's economy the same way the people on the Titanic were very polite about the way they died.
 

ZNP

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Why is this thread still in the "Conspiracy" forum instead of the News forum?