Is the Vaccine the Mark of the Beast (MOTB)?

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ZNP

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I'm gonna pass, but where are we suppose to live?
In the heavenlies with Christ, and then we will come with Him to set up His kingdom. We are currently in the 10 days of awe (10 years), the last seven of which are the great tribulation.
 

kinda

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In the heavenlies with Christ, and then we will come with Him to set up His kingdom. We are currently in the 10 days of awe (10 years), the last seven of which are the great tribulation.
10 years of awe? Is this Biblical? And how do you know that the Great Tribulation is next?

It's crazy times for sure.
 

ZNP

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10 years of awe? Is this Biblical? And how do you know that the Great Tribulation is next?

It's crazy times for sure.
Yes, from Feast of Trumpets to Atonement is ten days where you are to "prepare to meet your God" as Amos puts it. These days are called "Jacob's trouble" or "the ten days of awe".

Starting with post 1,586 I have a number of posts called "Abstract p.1" thru "Abstract p.6" That answers your question as briefly and succinctly as possible. However, there are 1,654 posts that are all relevant to the rapture, the redemption of our body, and the days of awe.

https://christianchat.com/blogs/summary-of-bible-references-on-the-rapture.197802/page-80
 

kinda

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Yes, from Feast of Trumpets to Atonement is ten days where you are to "prepare to meet your God" as Amos puts it. These days are called "Jacob's trouble" or "the ten days of awe".

Starting with post 1,586 I have a number of posts called "Abstract p.1" thru "Abstract p.6" That answers your question as briefly and succinctly as possible. However, there are 1,654 posts that are all relevant to the rapture, the redemption of our body, and the days of awe.

https://christianchat.com/blogs/summary-of-bible-references-on-the-rapture.197802/page-80

I liked the two witness video. They have a new one every week showing all the disasters happening around the world.

So, did you move into the country area, what are you doing to prepare?
 

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I want to respond to statements I've seen here and all over the web about the vax being a precursor to the mark of the beast (MOTB).
The primary reasons why the bogus COVID "vaccines" are seen as precursors to the MOTB are (1) the Church is still on earth and (2) the Antichrist has not taken total control of the world. The MOTB cannot be separated from the reign of the Antichrist.

However, these harmful and lethal injections should be totally rejected by everyone, particularly Christians. They are meant to depopulate the planet, and are doing so as planned. Large numbers of ethical and knowledgeable medical professionals (doctors and nurses) are refusing to take the jab, and are also warning people about their dangers. Some have launched lawsuits against entities which are forcing vaccinations.
 

ZNP

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I liked the two witness video. They have a new one every week showing all the disasters happening around the world.

So, did you move into the country area, what are you doing to prepare?
I am testifying of the Lord Jesus, speaking every day and putting my hope in a savior.
 

kinda

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I am testifying of the Lord Jesus, speaking every day and putting my hope in a savior.
After watching those videos by the Two Preachers, it definitely makes you wonder, if this really is the end times. Things seem so surreal, like we are living in some kind of terror storm or something. I agree with you in trusting Jesus, just don't see a way out this mess, but God can surprise us all.
 

ZNP

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After watching those videos by the Two Preachers, it definitely makes you wonder, if this really is the end times. Things seem so surreal, like we are living in some kind of terror storm or something. I agree with you in trusting Jesus, just don't see a way out this mess, but God can surprise us all.
I find it very encouraging when I see all the incredible things the Bible prophesied about being fulfilled. It proves the Lord knew all this ahead of time and He was giving us the game plan for salvation. All we need to do is trust Him and hold onto His word.
 

kinda

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I find it very encouraging when I see all the incredible things the Bible prophesied about being fulfilled. It proves the Lord knew all this ahead of time and He was giving us the game plan for salvation. All we need to do is trust Him and hold onto His word.
Yes, the Bible is great, we would be so lost without it. Thank God!

Just watched a video where the theory is the Q.R. Code will be the mark of the beast. Not sure if this is true, but just another thing to be aware of. If they mix the Q.R. Code with the quantum dot tattoo, that could work maybe.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/the-mark-of-the-beast-has-arrived/
 

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The primary reasons why the bogus COVID "vaccines" are seen as precursors to the MOTB are (1) the Church is still on earth and (2) the Antichrist has not taken total control of the world. The MOTB cannot be separated from the reign of the Antichrist.

However, these harmful and lethal injections should be totally rejected by everyone, particularly Christians. They are meant to depopulate the planet, and are doing so as planned. Large numbers of ethical and knowledgeable medical professionals (doctors and nurses) are refusing to take the jab, and are also warning people about their dangers. Some have launched lawsuits against entities which are forcing vaccinations.
Appreciate your feedback. So here's some food for thought:

When a story opens with the final scene, we understand there was a starting point from where things built up to that climax. In the Bible the beast system involving worship and the death penalty for refusal to worship is the final scene; there is a build up to that point which we can certainly infer based on what the Bible does tell us. Inference is necessary so that we can discern what is happening today.

The evil powers influenced by Satan have planned the beast system for centuries; it took them centuries to infiltrate every institution in every country in the world, and they have achieved it; and that is why we see unprecedented forms of deception if not outright lies today on a global scale. The illuminati symbol on the $1.00 US bill is testimony to Satan's long term planning.

So what we are witnessing today is the stage of the plan where the beast is ruling through proxies, though more overtly than in the past; in this stage of the beast system the penalty for not taking the mark is livelihood, and this is being rolled out in a 'soft' way, primarily by noncoercive choice, but coercion is becoming more overt as more and more people are forced to give up their livelihood; but we are still at the stage where alternative livelihood can still be found.

We can compare this stage of the beast system to a category 2 stage of a hurricane. Satan knows it will take time to get multitudes deceived and willing to take the mark. That does not happen overnight. His direct rule is limited to 3.5 years. He won't wait until that short time period to accomplish both the mark and worship to secure the eternal death of multitudes.

By the time the Antichrist reigns directly (Category 10 of the hurricane) many will already be deceived and have the mark, and what will be forced on souls in the final stage of the beast system is not only the mark but also worship of the beast or his image (Revelation 13-18).

If you take a look at Revelation 14:11, and Revelation 20:4, you will see that the mechanisms of Satan's beast system are broken down into multiple parts: "...and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands..." (Revelation 20:4). There are possibly those who will take the mark but will not worship the image nor the beast; and it appears that there are those who will receive the mark in their foreheads but not in their hand.

In the final stage of the beast system coercion becomes overt because it is aimed primarily at those who will refuse to worship the beast to the death, ie., the righteous ones; so Satan will play his final card and threaten death in the last 3.5 years. Those who refuse to take mark and worship are beheaded.

My understanding of Biblical teaching is that the Church or followers of Jesus Christ will be present during the tribulation. The Holy Spirit must also be present, otherwise there would be no 144,000 redeemed from the earth in Revelation 14:1-4, nor souls who will be beheaded for the witness of Jesus who had not worshipped the beast nor his image (Revelation 20:4). Will there be a rapture? I don't know, but I believe it is not pretrib; it may be mid-trib. If not a rapture, it is very clear in many passages in the Bible that God plans to protect and seal the righteous throughout the tribulation though the righteous will also face persecution or death.

My friend in Jesus Christ, that is my understanding of the last days Biblical Prophecy. God Bless you!
 
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Always focusing on Revelation 13:16, I never noticed the OR's in Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Consider the Luciferase ingredient, which is jellyfish = Name of the Beast, Vaccine injection site = Mark
Would you chance taking an ingredient in your body that has Lucifer in its name?
Has there ever been a time that the whole world has prohibited people from buying at certain places(for now) without a certain thing?
Maybe there is another part to it, perhaps not, the Devil has deceived many in the past and why not now?
With a right heart, should you not have the faith in God to protect you and Jesus to heal you?
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect
 

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Brothers and sisters in Christ, I'm reposting this thread being most careful to follow the guidelines of this site.

I really appreciate all the commentaries on this site about all topics related to the vaccine and the mark of the beast. We are here to help each other understand, to help us have eyes that see and ears that hear. We are here to prevent deception. God Bless You all!!!

I want to respond to statements I've seen here and all over the web about the vax being a precursor to the mark of the beast (MOTB). I have not seen a good explanation of 'precursor'. Does that mean this pandemic/vaccine is a global practice session for the beast system, training people to accept the MOTB (while actually killing people in body and soul as well, given the poison that’s in it including graphene and aborted fetal cells)? Let's consider some issues to ponder concerning whether this is a precursor, and I will also explain why I believe the vaccine is in fact the MOTB:

1. All the vaccines modify human DNA via mRNA.

2. The mRNA modifies a human's DNA, making the recipients genetically modified; researchers and doctors performing autopsies and studies on the bodies of deceased vaccine recipients are telling us that the DNA is chimeric.

3. Genetic modification of a human makes that human patentable because they are no longer found in nature; only those things NOT found in nature can be patented and owned; so now ownership of those who were previously human and are now modified becomes possible (you may be aware that patents for these vaccines existed prior to the COVID PLANdemic).

4. Revelation 18:13 tells us that in the beast system merchants will trade in the souls of men. This must be because by the time the beast system is fully fledged, those who were once men, who were previously made in God's image, and have been transformed into chimeras will be patented and owned and enslaved. Remember that the intent of the powers (that should not be) is that vast numbers who take this jab will die (gradually, in this staged genocide because it can't be obvious that the jab is the cause of death; also, they want us to bury our own dead so they don't have to deal with piles and piles). Those remaining or surviving as modified humanoids (ideal max population is written in the Georgia guidestones) will be patentable and owned.

5. God made us in his image, inclusive of our DNA. When our DNA is modified and we're patentable or owned by the beast, can our body still be the temple of God? Can such a soul that is patented and traded still be made in God's image? (Remember, historical slavery is NOT the same as the slavery resulting from being patented and traded in the beast system, because slaves like the Jews in ancient Egypt or African Americans in the United States were not genetically modified). The beast system takes slavery to a whole new level, without possibility of freedom, or even a fight for freedom. All minds are locked into the artificial intelligence (AI) hive.

6. It should be clear to Christians that we are in end times because of the magnitude of deception in the world (deception is a major birth pang of the end times see Matthew 24). The deception is very obvious because COVID is treatable and treatments are banned, abolished, and some pharmacies carrying the treatments are being destroyed in parts of the world.

7. I asked God for many months about this vaccine, whether it is the MOTB. He sent me a dream on June 23rd 2021 confirming that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. I’ll post a transcript of my dream in future).

Many insist that the vax is NOT the MOTB because it appears to be sneaked into the world, and is happening outside of the prophetic timeline ie., prior to prophetic events that are supposed to occur before it. Remember that even the MOTB has to have a starting point, an inception point, which builds up to the climax in the beast system where the penalty is death. Remember even Jesus came in a manner that was completely unexpected for the Jews; He did not appear to arrive in the manner they expected nor did He say the things they wanted to hear; so they proceeded to reject and crucify him. Remember that Eve ate the apple because she was deceived; she did not remember God's warning and instead believed Satan that she would 'surely not die', and so the fate of mankind was sealed. Similarly many misunderstand and reject God's teachings, and will be deceived and take the mark, and seal their eternal fate. Remember, that the Book of Revelation has been warning us about the mark of the beast for centuries and for Christians who have taken the time to truly understand His Holy Word, God will provide clear warnings. God sent me such a warning and I am compelled to declare it from as many rooftops as possible to His followers.

Is there salvation after taking the mark because you did not realize it is the mark, because it is being delivered via deception as a treatment? That is above my spiritual pay grade. However, as Christians, we love one another and pray ceaselessly for each other. Members of my immediate family have taken it despite my warnings, and despite showing them videos by very informed and highly respected doctors, pastors, and researchers. I pray for them daily, believing in the mercy of God, while very aware of the fate of those who take the mark which is spelled out in Revelation. Their fate is above my spiritual pay grade.

We have to understand that God turns those who are not true followers over to deception. And deception takes many forms. Who are the true followers of Jesus Christ? Each of us has to examine our souls and seek Him with all our heart, mind, body and soul.

What about children or the old who are given the MOTB without their consent? God is merciful and they are safely in His loving hands. He can do all things. He made us, He created the entire universe, He can certainly undo a mark imposed on the innocent. We pray for them.

As we witness the INCEPTION of the mark of the beast, many Christians believe the false doctors and apostate teachers and pastors that the vax is a protection and treatment. Christians have to ask themselves why a vaccine that does not prevent infection or transmission is protective? And we as Christians have to ask why a mask should be worn by only the unvaccinated, when the vaccinated also transmit and infect? And also ask why only the unvaccinated should be excluded from restaurants, gyms, etc, when in fact the vaccination itself does not prevent transmission or infection, and when there is ALWAYS asymptomatic spread? We have to ask ourselves what should be we vaccinated for even though the virus responds well to even natural treatments and supplements, not to mention hydrocholoroquine and ivermectin? Surely these, and many other obvious lies and inconsistencies should be a clear sign that there is a NEFARIOUS hidden agenda behind this jab.

What has to be understood is that the MOTB system as depicted in Revelation 13 will not happen overnight, in one instance, where the old serpent appears as the Antichrist and blatantly declares 'TAKE MY MARK OR DIE'. However, when the beast system is fully in place I do think that the Antichrist will blatantly threaten those who are highly resistant to the mark. The vast majority of those who will strongly resist the mark are Christians so it's really only the Christians who will be threatened with death; non Christians will likely take it long before the penalty is death; for these, the penalty will be livelihood (buying and selling). The buying and selling threat has already started in 2021 in the guise of a fake vaccine.

Christians have to understand that we are in tribulation; our livelihoods are being threatened by these mandates. Our faith in Jesus is being tested. Do we trust Him to provide? That is the question we are faced with. We are appointed to tribulation, not to wrath.

We have to understand that Satan is not in the business of warning or disclosing; one must use wisdom and discernment to recognize the MOTB, that is why in Revelation 13:18 it is written 'here is wisdom' . Remember that Satan did not give Eve any disclosure, and God proceeded to curse mankind, and look at the fate of mankind since then. Nor will Satan give disclosure when it comes to the mark of the beast, he's not and has never been in the business of warning or telling the truth. It will be delivered via deception, just like the knowledge gained by eating the apple was delivered via deception; the old serpent told Eve, 'you will surely not die'. Regarding the vaccine, Satan's mouthpieces are proclaiming, 'you will surely not die'. Sound familiar?

Remember that the entire Bible and the prophetic Books including Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel and the Book of Revelation, as well as the first Book of Enoch are God's warnings. If we have been studying the Holy Word, and walk the talk of our faith, and are truly born again, we cannot be taken by surprise; these warnings have been proclaimed by the prophets from the rooftops for thousands of years. The question is do we understand, or are we deceived?

Remember that Noah warned humankind for over 100 years before the flood (in those days people lived to 1000+ years of age), that the flood was coming. Yet they were eating and marrying and being given in marriage until the day Noah entered the ark. As Jesus warned us the end times will be as in the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37).

Remember that only 7 people entered Noah's ark.

Friends, let us pray those that refuse the mark of the beast will number more than 7.

Amen & Amen!
A simple google "does mRNA change human DNA" can clear this up. Sorry you were freaked out unnecessarily. Reading science journals can help you with this sort of thing in the future. Get vaccinated. Sleep well.
 

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Always focusing on Revelation 13:16, I never noticed the OR's in Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Consider the Luciferase ingredient, which is jellyfish = Name of the Beast, Vaccine injection site = Mark
Would you chance taking an ingredient in your body that has Lucifer in its name?
Has there ever been a time that the whole world has prohibited people from buying at certain places(for now) without a certain thing?
Maybe there is another part to it, perhaps not, the Devil has deceived many in the past and why not now?
With a right heart, should you not have the faith in God to protect you and Jesus to heal you?
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect
Luciferase is a generic term for the class of oxidative enzymes that produce bioluminescence. Now it is one of the possible methods experimented with to give a tatoo under the skin that will glow under an infrared light and be read by a scanner as a method for marking people as a vaccine record.

Such as a tiny triangle pattern of dots that represent a particular vaccine, polio, malaria, tetanus, COVID, whatever, each having a different pattern tattoo. This is not being used yet. It is indeed being developed by Rice University and MIT and the idea is that if it ever gets approval it would be offered to those who want a record tatoo under the skin, not visible to the naked eye. Luciferase is not the only bioluminescence being experimented with. There are other salt crystals and various ideas being tried.

Now currently no one is getting these quantum dot tatoos, but I do understand how it makes for a good conspiracy theory. However you have to wait until it is being used to make a point like the one you are trying to make. Until then, to apply it to COVID vaccines and say that they have Luciferase in them as an ingredient when it is not true would be a lie.

Now I am assuming you really believe that is an ingredient and did not mean to lie, but now that you know that it is not an ingredient I am sure you will not repeat it again since lying is far worse than getting a vaccine to protect oneself from a dangerous virus in the eyes of the Lord don't you think? I knew you would agree.

Let's keep it holy. Jesus is coming and all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire. Not you of course, but I do often wonder why so many are concerned about not taking the vaccine so they can avoid the Lake of Fire but are not worried about lying which will certainly reserve a seat in that eternal flame.
 
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Luciferase is a generic term for the class of oxidative enzymes that produce bioluminescence. Now it is one of the possible methods experimented with to give a tatoo under the skin that will glow under an infrared light and be read by a scanner as a method for marking people as a vaccine record.

Such as a tiny triangle pattern of dots that represent a particular vaccine, polio, malaria, tetanus, COVID, whatever, each having a different pattern tattoo. This is not being used yet. It is indeed being developed by Rice University and MIT and the idea is that if it ever gets approval it would be offered to those who want a record tatoo under the skin, not visible to the naked eye. Luciferase is not the only bioluminescence being experimented with. There are other salt crystals and various ideas being tried.

Now currently no one is getting these quantum dot tatoos, but I do understand how it makes for a good conspiracy theory. However you have to wait until it is being used to make a point like the one you are trying to make. Until then, to apply it to COVID vaccines and say that they have Luciferase in them as an ingredient when it is not true would be a lie.

Now I am assuming you really believe that is an ingredient and did not mean to lie, but now that you know that it is not an ingredient I am sure you will not repeat it again since lying is far worse than getting a vaccine to protect oneself from a dangerous virus in the eyes of the Lord don't you think? I knew you would agree.

Let's keep it holy. Jesus is coming and all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire. Not you of course, but I do often wonder why so many are concerned about not taking the vaccine so they can avoid the Lake of Fire but are not worried about lying which will certainly reserve a seat in that eternal flame.
I can't say that they are for sure but they certainly could and they are definitely rumors that they are.

There are still many questions about the ingredients, listed or not.
https://dreddymd.com/2021/08/29/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines/

There are a lot of lies being told and if it is the MOTB do you think they would tell you.

It being pushed and pushed more and probably will be forced on everyone.
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The fact there they have never been a time before in all of history that the WHOLE WORLD is baring people from buying (shopping) and selling (losing job?) without the vaccine is way more than enough for me to stay away thank you.

implantable quantum dot microneedle vaccination delivery system = 666
https://www.gematrix.org/?word=+Implantable+Quantum+Dot+Microneedle+Vaccination+Delivery+System

Psalm 91
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1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation
 
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How are those things related to freedoms? If anything the latter promoted freedom.
not sure what you saying...well the blacks being able to go school has 2 do with freedom.The thing i was answering at the time said goverment never has the interest of the people at heart.that they could never do anything good.
 

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I can't say that they are for sure but they certainly could and they are definitely rumors that they are.

There are still many questions about the ingredients, listed or not.
https://dreddymd.com/2021/08/29/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines/

There are a lot of lies being told and if it is the MOTB do you think they would tell you.

It being pushed and pushed more and probably will be forced on everyone.
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The fact there they have never been a time before in all of history that the WHOLE WORLD is baring people from buying (shopping) and selling (losing job?) without the vaccine is way more than enough for me to stay away thank you.

implantable quantum dot microneedle vaccination delivery system = 666
https://www.gematrix.org/?word=+Implantable+Quantum+Dot+Microneedle+Vaccination+Delivery+System

Psalm 91
King James Version


1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation

If you have been a christian for more than a decade you will see a pattern. There is always some new conspiracy concerning something we must avoid as it might be the mark of the beast.

Rev 13 does not read like that. It is a judgment upon those who worship the image. They will be killed if they don't worship the image. When it happens people will not have a choice. Those believers who refuse will be killed. It seems like a lot of wasted energy trying to follow each new conspiracy about the mark as though it is something that people take by mistake.

However, if the vaccine is safe and keeps people from dying and you scare them into not taking it and they die that is probably going to be a sin too. If they ask you to worship an image then run. If not, get the vaccine and get your family immunized before you loose one of them and regret it for the rest of your miserable life. (what I mean, is that the rest of your life would be miserable because of that burden of regret)
 
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In the heavenlies with Christ, and then we will come with Him to set up His kingdom. We are currently in the 10 days of awe (10 years), the last seven of which are the great tribulation.
not if u have 2 ask
 
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If you have been a christian for more than a decade you will see a pattern. There is always some new conspiracy concerning something we must avoid as it might be the mark of the beast.

Rev 13 does not read like that. It is a judgment upon those who worship the image. They will be killed if they don't worship the image. When it happens people will not have a choice. Those believers who refuse will be killed. It seems like a lot of wasted energy trying to follow each new conspiracy about the mark as though it is something that people take by mistake.

However, if the vaccine is safe and keeps people from dying and you scare them into not taking it and they die that is probably going to be a sin too. If they ask you to worship an image then run. If not, get the vaccine and get your family immunized before you loose one of them and regret it for the rest of your miserable life. (what I mean, is that the rest of your life would be miserable because of that burden of regret)
The reverse is also true
 

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The vaccine is not the mark of the beast. So if you decide to get the Covid shot your Salvation is not lost. Discussions on this topic tells you one important issue, as Christians we are aware of the coming storm. The Veil is lifting from our eye's.

Call this a test run of what's about to happen when the Evil one is revealed.

In my opinion, when the real terror starts, I'll be watching all of it unfold from the mezzanine having a wonderful super with my fellow Saints. 💖💖💖
 
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SigP226

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not sure what you saying...well the blacks being able to go school has 2 do with freedom.The thing i was answering at the time said goverment never has the interest of the people at heart.that they could never do anything good.
My point was those things that you mentioned promoted freedoms, not restricted them.