Is the Vaccine the Mark of the Beast (MOTB)?

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It's closer than you think

 

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Wow! I get it. China really likes the geography of the United States, they just don't like the people. Plan -- Depopulate the US and then turn it into a place where the Chinese can emigrate to and take over.

https://rumble.com/v13b1y3-digital-...ts-disinformation-and-a-cashless-society.html

Digital gulag places you into a digital prison (ie MOTB)

Composed of

1. Digital passport (social credit score)

2. Digital transactions that are all controlled by government.

3. Disinformation governance board
 

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Wow! I get it. China really likes the geography of the United States, they just don't like the people. Plan -- Depopulate the US and then turn it into a place where the Chinese can emigrate to and take over.

https://rumble.com/v13b1y3-digital-...ts-disinformation-and-a-cashless-society.html

Digital gulag places you into a digital prison (ie MOTB)

Composed of

1. Digital passport (social credit score)

2. Digital transactions that are all controlled by government.

3. Disinformation governance board
It is closer than you think. Listen to this news broadcast and you will be stunned at how this is being rolled out as we speak.
 

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Recall how scripture states "the end will come as a flood"?
A lot has to happen before the rightfully elected president returns, and they know it.
 
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Brothers and sisters in Christ, I'm reposting this thread being most careful to follow the guidelines of this site.

I really appreciate all the commentaries on this site about all topics related to the vaccine and the mark of the beast. We are here to help each other understand, to help us have eyes that see and ears that hear. We are here to prevent deception. God Bless You all!!!

I want to respond to statements I've seen here and all over the web about the vax being a precursor to the mark of the beast (MOTB). I have not seen a good explanation of 'precursor'. Does that mean this pandemic/vaccine is a global practice session for the beast system, training people to accept the MOTB (while actually killing people in body and soul as well, given the poison that’s in it including graphene and aborted fetal cells)? Let's consider some issues to ponder concerning whether this is a precursor, and I will also explain why I believe the vaccine is in fact the MOTB:

1. All the vaccines modify human DNA via mRNA.

2. The mRNA modifies a human's DNA, making the recipients genetically modified; researchers and doctors performing autopsies and studies on the bodies of deceased vaccine recipients are telling us that the DNA is chimeric.

3. Genetic modification of a human makes that human patentable because they are no longer found in nature; only those things NOT found in nature can be patented and owned; so now ownership of those who were previously human and are now modified becomes possible (you may be aware that patents for these vaccines existed prior to the COVID PLANdemic).

4. Revelation 18:13 tells us that in the beast system merchants will trade in the souls of men. This must be because by the time the beast system is fully fledged, those who were once men, who were previously made in God's image, and have been transformed into chimeras will be patented and owned and enslaved. Remember that the intent of the powers (that should not be) is that vast numbers who take this jab will die (gradually, in this staged genocide because it can't be obvious that the jab is the cause of death; also, they want us to bury our own dead so they don't have to deal with piles and piles). Those remaining or surviving as modified humanoids (ideal max population is written in the Georgia guidestones) will be patentable and owned.

5. God made us in his image, inclusive of our DNA. When our DNA is modified and we're patentable or owned by the beast, can our body still be the temple of God? Can such a soul that is patented and traded still be made in God's image? (Remember, historical slavery is NOT the same as the slavery resulting from being patented and traded in the beast system, because slaves like the Jews in ancient Egypt or African Americans in the United States were not genetically modified). The beast system takes slavery to a whole new level, without possibility of freedom, or even a fight for freedom. All minds are locked into the artificial intelligence (AI) hive.

6. It should be clear to Christians that we are in end times because of the magnitude of deception in the world (deception is a major birth pang of the end times see Matthew 24). The deception is very obvious because COVID is treatable and treatments are banned, abolished, and some pharmacies carrying the treatments are being destroyed in parts of the world.

7. I asked God for many months about this vaccine, whether it is the MOTB. He sent me a dream on June 23rd 2021 confirming that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. I’ll post a transcript of my dream in future).

Many insist that the vax is NOT the MOTB because it appears to be sneaked into the world, and is happening outside of the prophetic timeline ie., prior to prophetic events that are supposed to occur before it. Remember that even the MOTB has to have a starting point, an inception point, which builds up to the climax in the beast system where the penalty is death. Remember even Jesus came in a manner that was completely unexpected for the Jews; He did not appear to arrive in the manner they expected nor did He say the things they wanted to hear; so they proceeded to reject and crucify him. Remember that Eve ate the apple because she was deceived; she did not remember God's warning and instead believed Satan that she would 'surely not die', and so the fate of mankind was sealed. Similarly many misunderstand and reject God's teachings, and will be deceived and take the mark, and seal their eternal fate. Remember, that the Book of Revelation has been warning us about the mark of the beast for centuries and for Christians who have taken the time to truly understand His Holy Word, God will provide clear warnings. God sent me such a warning and I am compelled to declare it from as many rooftops as possible to His followers.

Is there salvation after taking the mark because you did not realize it is the mark, because it is being delivered via deception as a treatment? That is above my spiritual pay grade. However, as Christians, we love one another and pray ceaselessly for each other. Members of my immediate family have taken it despite my warnings, and despite showing them videos by very informed and highly respected doctors, pastors, and researchers. I pray for them daily, believing in the mercy of God, while very aware of the fate of those who take the mark which is spelled out in Revelation. Their fate is above my spiritual pay grade.

We have to understand that God turns those who are not true followers over to deception. And deception takes many forms. Who are the true followers of Jesus Christ? Each of us has to examine our souls and seek Him with all our heart, mind, body and soul.

What about children or the old who are given the MOTB without their consent? God is merciful and they are safely in His loving hands. He can do all things. He made us, He created the entire universe, He can certainly undo a mark imposed on the innocent. We pray for them.

As we witness the INCEPTION of the mark of the beast, many Christians believe the false doctors and apostate teachers and pastors that the vax is a protection and treatment. Christians have to ask themselves why a vaccine that does not prevent infection or transmission is protective? And we as Christians have to ask why a mask should be worn by only the unvaccinated, when the vaccinated also transmit and infect? And also ask why only the unvaccinated should be excluded from restaurants, gyms, etc, when in fact the vaccination itself does not prevent transmission or infection, and when there is ALWAYS asymptomatic spread? We have to ask ourselves what should be we vaccinated for even though the virus responds well to even natural treatments and supplements, not to mention hydrocholoroquine and ivermectin? Surely these, and many other obvious lies and inconsistencies should be a clear sign that there is a NEFARIOUS hidden agenda behind this jab.

What has to be understood is that the MOTB system as depicted in Revelation 13 will not happen overnight, in one instance, where the old serpent appears as the Antichrist and blatantly declares 'TAKE MY MARK OR DIE'. However, when the beast system is fully in place I do think that the Antichrist will blatantly threaten those who are highly resistant to the mark. The vast majority of those who will strongly resist the mark are Christians so it's really only the Christians who will be threatened with death; non Christians will likely take it long before the penalty is death; for these, the penalty will be livelihood (buying and selling). The buying and selling threat has already started in 2021 in the guise of a fake vaccine.

Christians have to understand that we are in tribulation; our livelihoods are being threatened by these mandates. Our faith in Jesus is being tested. Do we trust Him to provide? That is the question we are faced with. We are appointed to tribulation, not to wrath.

We have to understand that Satan is not in the business of warning or disclosing; one must use wisdom and discernment to recognize the MOTB, that is why in Revelation 13:18 it is written 'here is wisdom' . Remember that Satan did not give Eve any disclosure, and God proceeded to curse mankind, and look at the fate of mankind since then. Nor will Satan give disclosure when it comes to the mark of the beast, he's not and has never been in the business of warning or telling the truth. It will be delivered via deception, just like the knowledge gained by eating the apple was delivered via deception; the old serpent told Eve, 'you will surely not die'. Regarding the vaccine, Satan's mouthpieces are proclaiming, 'you will surely not die'. Sound familiar?

Remember that the entire Bible and the prophetic Books including Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel and the Book of Revelation, as well as the first Book of Enoch are God's warnings. If we have been studying the Holy Word, and walk the talk of our faith, and are truly born again, we cannot be taken by surprise; these warnings have been proclaimed by the prophets from the rooftops for thousands of years. The question is do we understand, or are we deceived?

Remember that Noah warned humankind for over 100 years before the flood (in those days people lived to 1000+ years of age), that the flood was coming. Yet they were eating and marrying and being given in marriage until the day Noah entered the ark. As Jesus warned us the end times will be as in the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37).

Remember that only 7 people entered Noah's ark.

Friends, let us pray those that refuse the mark of the beast will number more than 7.

Amen & Amen!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights. I needed to read this today.
 

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Brothers and sisters in Christ, I'm reposting this thread being most careful to follow the guidelines of this site.

I really appreciate all the commentaries on this site about all topics related to the vaccine and the mark of the beast. We are here to help each other understand, to help us have eyes that see and ears that hear. We are here to prevent deception. God Bless You all!!!

I want to respond to statements I've seen here and all over the web about the vax being a precursor to the mark of the beast (MOTB). I have not seen a good explanation of 'precursor'. Does that mean this pandemic/vaccine is a global practice session for the beast system, training people to accept the MOTB (while actually killing people in body and soul as well, given the poison that’s in it including graphene and aborted fetal cells)? Let's consider some issues to ponder concerning whether this is a precursor, and I will also explain why I believe the vaccine is in fact the MOTB:

1. All the vaccines modify human DNA via mRNA.

2. The mRNA modifies a human's DNA, making the recipients genetically modified; researchers and doctors performing autopsies and studies on the bodies of deceased vaccine recipients are telling us that the DNA is chimeric.

3. Genetic modification of a human makes that human patentable because they are no longer found in nature; only those things NOT found in nature can be patented and owned; so now ownership of those who were previously human and are now modified becomes possible (you may be aware that patents for these vaccines existed prior to the COVID PLANdemic).

4. Revelation 18:13 tells us that in the beast system merchants will trade in the souls of men. This must be because by the time the beast system is fully fledged, those who were once men, who were previously made in God's image, and have been transformed into chimeras will be patented and owned and enslaved. Remember that the intent of the powers (that should not be) is that vast numbers who take this jab will die (gradually, in this staged genocide because it can't be obvious that the jab is the cause of death; also, they want us to bury our own dead so they don't have to deal with piles and piles). Those remaining or surviving as modified humanoids (ideal max population is written in the Georgia guidestones) will be patentable and owned.

5. God made us in his image, inclusive of our DNA. When our DNA is modified and we're patentable or owned by the beast, can our body still be the temple of God? Can such a soul that is patented and traded still be made in God's image? (Remember, historical slavery is NOT the same as the slavery resulting from being patented and traded in the beast system, because slaves like the Jews in ancient Egypt or African Americans in the United States were not genetically modified). The beast system takes slavery to a whole new level, without possibility of freedom, or even a fight for freedom. All minds are locked into the artificial intelligence (AI) hive.

6. It should be clear to Christians that we are in end times because of the magnitude of deception in the world (deception is a major birth pang of the end times see Matthew 24). The deception is very obvious because COVID is treatable and treatments are banned, abolished, and some pharmacies carrying the treatments are being destroyed in parts of the world.

7. I asked God for many months about this vaccine, whether it is the MOTB. He sent me a dream on June 23rd 2021 confirming that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. I’ll post a transcript of my dream in future).
I will reply as one who has argued that the vaccine is the precursor to the mark of the beast but is not the mark of the beast.

Points 1-6 that you make support this being a precursor but do not in any way confirm that this is the Mark of the Beast.

Precursor -- a thing that comes before another, a forerunner, or a substance from which another is formed.

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; 17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is [p]Six hundred and sixty and six.

Reasons why the vaccine is not the mark of the beast.

1. Did anyone cause you to have a mark on your hand or your forehead at the time of the vaccine that without you would not be able to buy or sell?

No, they didn't. We can certainly see that vaccine passports are coming and we can see that they will ultimately be made part of your body, hand or forehead. If you want to say that the vaccine is stage 1 of a process that results in the MOTB no problem, that is what precursor means.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel flying in mid heaven, having eternal good tidings to proclaim unto them that dwell on the earth, and unto every nation and tribe and tongue and people; 7 and he saith with a great voice, Fear God, and give him glory; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.

8 And another, a second angel, followed, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, that hath made all the nations to drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, If any man worshippeth the beast and his image, and receiveth a mark on his forehead, or upon his hand, 10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

At the time that the Mark of the Beast is rolled out 3 angels fly through the heavens warning all the inhabitants on earth telling them to worship God, that Babylon the Great is fallen and that you are not to take the mark of the beast because if you do you shall drink the wrath of God. This is a warning given to every person on earth, it is righteousness.

2. Has anyone heard or seen these three angels? No.

Again I agree that we are very close to this time and that the vaccine is a precursor to this. I would not at all be surprised if we are less than 3 years away from this time and to be fair I would not be surprised if this took place in 2022, but I have not seen nor heard these three angels, so no, this vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast.

The major issue I and others have with people claiming that the vaccine is the MOTB is that you are saying that every single vaccinated person on Earth shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

That could be simply a very bad Bible interpretation. But then you have made things even worse by saying that you received a dream from God saying that the vaccine is the MOTB. If you claim to have a word from God that God never gave you then that is a false prophet.
 
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When I say you are in the image of the Ark of the Covenant,Your legs and arms are the poles that are used to carry the Ark.The heart is the mercy seat.If you follow your own heart of stone,you are sitting on the mercy seat defiling the Temple.
Are you making it up as you go along?
 
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God himself revealed these things to me.And you can't say to the Lord, "I didn't know" because it was also revealed to you.
Where was the Ark of the Covenant placed?In the temple.Who's blood is the daily sacrifice?.It certainly isn't yours if he rules on the mercy seat.
This is the second strike of the serpent.He strikes again for the third and final time when he's let loose as told in Revelation.
He goes for the blood.Just like he did when he deceived Eve in the garden.

Proverbs 15:8-9
The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord
: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the Lord: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.


Proverbs 16:5
Every one that is proud in heart(stone heart) is an abomination to the Lord
: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
 

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Anyone seen this? I've heard speculation that this might end up being the Mark:

 

ZNP

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Anyone seen this? I've heard speculation that this might end up being the Mark:

Yes, they are definitely developing the mark. The vaccine, the vaccine passport, digital currency, RFID chips, and ultimately quantum computers. These are all steps towards the mark.
 

ZNP

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The Ten Plagues of Egypt have returned

https://rumble.com/v18phkj-water-into-blood-dream-61622310am.html

(She gave a dream recently that said we would have the ten plagues of Egypt shortly. The Lord said they would come rapid fire. This is now the third prophecy I have heard from reliable sources concerning the water being turned to blood).

"This will be the same as before only different as I turn the waters of the wicked hearts into blood"


These things are coming -- Trust Jesus and His words and it shall be done!

How to Purify the water

If the water turns to blood it tells you where your heart is. You are not right with the Lord. If you are right with the Lord you will not have to worry. This plague will strike the entire world and cause many to repent and get right with the Lord Jesus.
 

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Scariest case yet

people do not understand that this is coming to us also through digital passports digital currency. In Canada where i live PM trudeau's government froze the bank accounts of people who donated to a protest movement in Ottawa about the mandatory vaccinations for truckers. it is only the start. People have to reject digital currency, digital ID, the mark of the beast is coming very fast ..

Peace

JF
 

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people do not understand that this is coming to us also through digital passports digital currency. In Canada where i live PM trudeau's government froze the bank accounts of people who donated to a protest movement in Ottawa about the mandatory vaccinations for truckers. it is only the start. People have to reject digital currency, digital ID, the mark of the beast is coming very fast ..

Peace

JF
trudeau is the worst type of dictator- the kind that smiles, acts like he cares, is nice and polite.

very deceiving.
 

Jesusfollower

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trudeau is the worst type of dictator- the kind that smiles, acts like he cares, is nice and polite.

very deceiving.
yes, and he is a WEF ( world economic forum) puppet and is funding this elitist satanic organization.


Peace.

JF