Kavanaugh Debacle

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UnderGrace

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Trump is the most honest person there is. Never told a lie. Never cheated anyone. A really family man.

He just changes his mind a lot....depending on his audience.
Yup he is a liar and a cheat, no point even arguing that.

However, the left so easily defended Billy back in the day. I do believe consensual is not a crime but rape is.

There are few men that have held the office that were not cheats and liars.

So lets keep the playing field even.
 

PennEd

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I think you misunderstand.

What I’m saying is that if you even have to raise the question of guilt or innocence of a candidate, he should be vetted more thoroughly.

That’s not the case here.

He’s been appointed, despite the accusations, that should have been investigated.

He should have welcomed such an investigation, it might could have cleared him.

But nobody’s got time for that, because the midterm elections could put him out of the race.

That’s telling me one thing. What he’s done or not is not important. The law isn’t either, the only thing that matters is getting him appointed before the midterm.

That’s due process to you?

Let's leave aside the fact that Ford did not bring forth her allegations for 36 yrs. Kavanaugh was a law Clerk then judge, then a lower court judge, the appointed to sit on the second highest Court in the Land and she said nothing.

Let's forget about that for a sec. Diane Feinstein & the Democrats had this letter that Ford sent her with the allegations waaaay back in July!! The confirmation hearings were almost wrapping up and a vote to confirm were about to take place, MONTHS AFTER THEY HAD THIS LETTER, when they all of a sudden brought it out! Why would you want to be made a fool of Jennie?

This was ALWAYS about them saving their right to murder unborn babies. It DIDN'T MATTER who the President appointed. If they were conservative, and pro life, the Democrats were going to destroy them personally!

All nominees ARE fully vetted by the FBI. There was NO allegation against him UNTIL they were just about to vote. They put this allegation forward merely as a delay tactic. But thank the Lord it backfired on them.

If they truly cared about this woman, they WOULD HAVE PRODUCED THE LETTER in JULY when they 1st got it! They USED her, and by extension are using people like you.
 

PennEd

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I'm sorry you feel that way about me.

Obviously there are sweet, wonderful people who vote Democrat such as yourself. But if you look into just what your party has become, maybe you can walk away as well. THIS IS WHAT YOUR PARTY IS NOW>

 
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UnderGrace

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Let's leave aside the fact that Ford did not bring forth her allegations for 36 yrs. Kavanaugh was a law Clerk then judge, then a lower court judge, the appointed to sit on the second highest Court in the Land and she said nothing.

Let's forget about that for a sec. Diane Feinstein & the Democrats had this letter that Ford sent her with the allegations waaaay back in July!! The confirmation hearings were almost wrapping up and a vote to confirm were about to take place, MONTHS AFTER THEY HAD THIS LETTER, when they all of a sudden brought it out! Why would you want to be made a fool of Jennie?

This was ALWAYS about them saving their right to murder unborn babies. It DIDN'T MATTER who the President appointed. If they were conservative, and pro life, the Democrats were going to destroy them personally!

All nominees ARE fully vetted by the FBI. There was NO allegation against him UNTIL they were just about to vote. They put this allegation forward merely as a delay tactic. But thank the Lord it backfired on them.

If they truly cared about this woman, they WOULD HAVE PRODUCED THE LETTER in JULY when they 1st got it! They USED her, and by extension are using people like you.

Yes I do agree

This was ALWAYS about them saving their right to murder unborn babies. It DIDN'T MATTER who the President appointed. If they were conservative, and pro life, the Democrats were going to destroy them personally!
Also, it was pay back time since Kavanaugh worked with the Starr investigation back when Billy was accused.

The left hates him for touching their anointed one, their Manchurian candidate
 

JesusLives

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Obviously there are sweet, wonderful people who vote Democrat such as yourself. But if you look into just what your party has become, maybe you can walk away as well. THIS IS WHAT YOUR PARTY IS NOW>


I watched. It passed as a yes in support of both... were there boos, yes. But they supported God and Jerusalem. Had they voted no then we would have something to talk about but they voted yes in support of both God and Jerusalem as the capital.... In the entire world there are those in favor of God and Jerusalem there are also those opposed to both. Even some in the Republican party are as I don't believe every Republican is a Christian I will bet there are some Atheist Republicans... Video didn't really support your point.

I don't agree with the entire program of either party but there are Christians and Atheists in both parties. Blanket statements don't apply to either party. I just hate getting lumped into the blanket statements of hate against the Democrats when we are not all equal.
 
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You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking like that to me.
Not ashamed in the least, more ashamed that someone on a Christian site espouses such an anti-biblical stance.

Rather, you should be ashamed for such a worldly lynch mob attitude on a person merely due to an unsubstantiated malicious accusation. It is injustice at its worse and a horrendous and damning precedent you and others are setting.

Such an accusation is actually contrary to God and his law. Nonetheless you're probably doing this in ignorance, I hope, or, worse, you really don't care to follow God's law in this situation.
 

PennEd

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I watched. It passed as a yes in support of both... were there boos, yes. But they supported God and Jerusalem. Had they voted no then we would have something to talk about but they voted yes in support of both God and Jerusalem as the capital.... In the entire world there are those in favor of God and Jerusalem there are also those opposed to both. Even some in the Republican party are as I don't believe every Republican is a Christian I will bet there are some Atheist Republicans... Video didn't really support your point.

I don't agree with the entire program of either party but there are Christians and Atheists in both parties. Blanket statements don't apply to either party. I just hate getting lumped into the blanket statements of hate against the Democrats when we are not all equal.

Well according to the VERY liberal Washington Post they DID remove God! Does this mean you will now leave them?

Democrats under fire for removing ‘God’ from party platform



By Lauren Markoe| Religion News Service
September 5, 2012
The word “God” is nowhere to be found in the Democratic national platform this year, an omission Republicans have seized upon as a failure of their opponents to appreciate the divine’s place in American history.
GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan took to the airwaves Wednesday (Sept. 5) to blast the change from the Democrats’ 2008 platform. “I guess I would just put the onus and the burden on them to explain why they did all this, these purges of God,” Ryan said on “Fox & Friends.”
Ryan also attacked the Democratic platform’s failure to affirm Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, an issue important to some American Jews and conservative Christians.
“(I)t undermines our nation’s support for our ally, Israel,” Ryan told Fox News.
God is mentioned 12 times in the 2012 GOP platform. The 2008 Democratic platform made one reference to God: the “God-given potential” of working people. The 2004 platform had numerous references to God.

Melanie N. Rousell, national press secretary for the Democratic National Committee, called the issue a “faux controversy” and referred to a section in the DNC platform on faith.
“Faith has always been a central part of the American story, and it has been a driving force of progress and justice throughout our history,” the section reads in part. “We know that our nation, our communities, and our lives are made vastly stronger and richer by faith and the countless acts of justice and mercy it inspires.”
Roussell noted that the platform “mentions ‘faith’ 11 times, ‘religion’ or ‘religious’ nine times, ‘church’ two times and ‘clergy’ one time.”
The Democrats’ emphasis on “faith” as opposed to “God” is unlikely to please many atheists, according to Hemant Mehta, chairman of Foundation Beyond Belief.
“The Democrats could have at least suggested that people without faith also care about progress and justice and that we support or volunteer with organizations that work toward those ends,” Mehta wrote on his “Friendly Atheist” blog. “Instead, they ignored us.”
On cutting “Jerusalem” from the platform, the Republican Jewish Coalition decried the omission of “critical pro-Israel language.” But the National Jewish Democratic Council called the change inconsequential. “Jewish Democrats know full well that Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel,” said council president David A. Harris.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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The right gave all the due process (a complete FBI investigation and a judicial hearing) and the left gave absolutely none and you are still doing that.

This is in fact the truth.

Have you not read what 7Seas wrote.

There was no Corroborating Evidence....NONE, ZERO it is acutally in the negative for her she lied under oath on a substantial question.
I don’t think what you’re doing here is a valid way of making a case.
 
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I don’t think what you’re doing here is a valid way of making a case.
You just don't happen to like pesky facts. Lynching, slander, ruining a family over false, ungodly, anti-biblical accusations???? You're all in. No evidence to substantiate them? No problem, you don't care.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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It’s not that easy.

Whether she or he is lying should be to the investigation to find out. That takes time. The investigation of the accusations in this case would not meet the standards of any District Attorneys office.

An investigation would, maybe, reveal the person committing perjury. It could be him, it could be her. My point is, and has been all the time. One can’t just shake off accusations like that with a shrug and be screaming “she’s lying!”

That’s not how things should be. Most prosecutors would be ashamed of presenting such a case in a court of law.

Because some of y’all care so much for one of the persons involved, you are ready to throw the other person under the bus without any due process.

oh my lands Jennie how much proof do you need? she was caught lying while giving her so called testimony!

I will say at this point that if a person actually wants to judge fairly, they need to align themselves with scripture and not popular liberal propaganda

you don't have a clue of how things are so I doubt you know how they should be

seriously. you deny again and again and again the fact Ford is a liar.

what do you know about prosecutors? are you one? do you appear often in court?

if not, why make the sweeping statement that most prosecutors would be ashamed to present what you refer to as 'such a case'

it is not case at all. there would be a case if Ford was not lying and did not present accusations more in line with regression therapy under hypnosis than anything of actual recall
 
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Jennie-Mae

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He was investigated, why do you keep say he was not????

Are you kidding me, he has been investigated and vetted SEVEN times and never has there been any evidence of misconduct.
I’m not kidding you.

What harm would a proper investigation do...apart from not being appointed before the midterm?

Investigated seven times? Not even career criminals are investigated that many times. Maybe about time to bring in the forensics...☹️.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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You just don't happen to like pesky facts. Lynching, slander, ruining a family over false, ungodly, anti-biblical accusations???? You're all in. No evidence to substantiate them? No problem, you don't care.
Don’t be ridiculous. You’re accusing me of what you’re doing yourself.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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oh my lands Jennie how much proof do you need? she was caught lying while giving her so called testimony!

I will say at this point that if a person actually wants to judge fairly, they need to align themselves with scripture and not popular liberal propaganda

you don't have a clue of how things are so I doubt you know how they should be

seriously. you deny again and again and again the fact Ford is a liar.

what do you know about prosecutors? are you one? do you appear often in court?

if not, why make the sweeping statement that most prosecutors would be ashamed to present what you refer to as 'such a case'

it is not case at all. there would be a case if Ford was not lying and did not present accusations more in line with regression therapy under hypnosis than anything of actual recall
I’m not denying. I just want justice to be served. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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What I’m saying is that if you even have to raise the question of guilt or innocence of a candidate, he should be vetted more thoroughly.

That’s not the case here.
so Jennie

6 times vetted by the FBI PRIOR to nomination is not enough?

one more time at the request of the dems is not enough? (making 7)

you must be one of those people who stick their wet finger in an electrical outlet to see if it is really working :LOL:
 
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Jennie-Mae

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oh my lands Jennie how much proof do you need? she was caught lying while giving her so called testimony!

I will say at this point that if a person actually wants to judge fairly, they need to align themselves with scripture and not popular liberal propaganda

you don't have a clue of how things are so I doubt you know how they should be

seriously. you deny again and again and again the fact Ford is a liar.

what do you know about prosecutors? are you one? do you appear often in court?

if not, why make the sweeping statement that most prosecutors would be ashamed to present what you refer to as 'such a case'

it is not case at all. there would be a case if Ford was not lying and did not present accusations more in line with regression therapy under hypnosis than anything of actual recall
so Jennie

6 times vetted by the FBI PRIOR to nomination is not enough?

one more time at the request of the dems is not enough? (making 7)

you must be one of those people who stick their wet finger in an electrical outlet to see if it is really working :LOL:
Maybe, but I usually find what is the truth, and I assure you, that “investigation” the feds was doing was pointless except from providing the desired outcome.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I’m not denying. I just want justice to be served. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
served?

with what? a petition from the court to hear your denial of the process?

what is hard to comprehend is your denial that if there were anything at all, the FBI would have found it

I don't think you understand the system

innocent until proven guilty

in this case, the dems cannot even get evidence...without which there is no case...FBI...SEVEN TIMES

I understand that many in the me too movement just want a hanging and that is what gives the movement lack of credibility
 
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UnderGrace

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I’m not kidding you.

What harm would a proper investigation do...apart from not being appointed before the midterm?

Investigated seven times? Not even career criminals are investigated that many times. Maybe about time to bring in the forensics...☹️.
What is a proper investigation in your world?

There is no forensic evidence in this case.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Maybe, but I usually find what is the truth, and I assure you, that “investigation” the feds was doing was pointless except from providing the desired outcome.

really?

girl...let's see the evidence

see? YOU are now making accusations with no evidence

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your antics :cry::LOL:

so here's both :ROFL:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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The right gave all the due process (a complete FBI investigation and a judicial hearing) and the left gave absolutely none and you are still doing that.

This is in fact the truth.

Have you not read what 7Seas wrote.

There was no Corroborating Evidence....NONE, ZERO it is acutally in the negative for her she lied under oath on a substantial question.
I watched the whole nasty thing

am I wrong, maybe you know, wasn't Ford supposed to come back again after a recess and instead they went on to Kavanaugh?

I thought she was supposed to 'testify' more ?!?