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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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PennEd

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So then you would vote for Biden? Harris? Newsom?
Now why would you ever think that!

Any Christian that votes for any Democrat, is foolish, and frankly, ignorant.

I am on the exact page as Alex Jones is on this. So watch the video to see where I'm at.
 

ZNP

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Now why would you ever think that!

Any Christian that votes for any Democrat, is foolish, and frankly, ignorant.

I am on the exact page as Alex Jones is on this. So watch the video to see where I'm at.
My point is you don't get to pick who to vote for, you have two choices, they are given to you. Your vote may make a difference between those two that that is it.

You may think that you get a choice in the primary. Really? If your state's primary is after Super Tuesday then you don't, it is decided by then. The states with the biggest say are the first five that vote.

You can get involved in politics if you want. But we serve the king, my focus is on the power of prayer, that is what really matters. The word of God and prayer. Everything else is a house of cards that will go up in flames and collapse.

I don't know enough about Alex Jones to say anything bad about him, but I do know enough to say "I am not on the exact page as Alex Jones". I even heard Alex Jones say pretty much the same thing saying half of the stuff he has said in the past was stupid.

I believe that Trump will be used by the Lord to bring this whole house of cards down on itself. That is definitely an answer to prayer and a work of the Spirit, but building up the church is a far more appealing calling to me.
 

ZNP

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Easiest solution for Democrats is if Biden leaves same way all the other friends of Clinton left. Hunter Biden laptop becomes irrelevant and rude to even bring it up. Likewise with election fraud or any of his many blunders.
 

PennEd

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My point is you don't get to pick who to vote for, you have two choices, they are given to you. Your vote may make a difference between those two that that is it.

You may think that you get a choice in the primary. Really? If your state's primary is after Super Tuesday then you don't, it is decided by then. The states with the biggest say are the first five that vote.

You can get involved in politics if you want. But we serve the king, my focus is on the power of prayer, that is what really matters. The word of God and prayer. Everything else is a house of cards that will go up in flames and collapse.

I don't know enough about Alex Jones to say anything bad about him, but I do know enough to say "I am not on the exact page as Alex Jones". I even heard Alex Jones say pretty much the same thing saying half of the stuff he has said in the past was stupid.

I believe that Trump will be used by the Lord to bring this whole house of cards down on itself. That is definitely an answer to prayer and a work of the Spirit, but building up the church is a far more appealing calling to me.
So much here assumed or outright said that has zero bearing on what I said, it makes me wonder if YOU are a democrat.

Touching on just one aspect of your post, I said I 100% agreed with what Jones said in the video I posted.

I said NOTHING about any other positions he takes.

If you are not going to watch what was posted, then you probably shouldn’t respond.
 

ZNP

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So much here assumed or outright said that has zero bearing on what I said, it makes me wonder if YOU are a democrat.

Touching on just one aspect of your post, I said I 100% agreed with what Jones said in the video I posted.

I said NOTHING about any other positions he takes.

If you are not going to watch what was posted, then you probably shouldn’t respond.
that was secondary, you said that you would not vote for Trump unless he apologized for pushing out the vaccine in warp speed. So I asked, OK, if you aren't going to vote for him are we to understand you will be voting for his opponent which at this point would be Biden, Harris or Newsom as the most likely opponent.

The point has nothing to do with Democrats, Republicans, MAGA, Alex Jones or the Vaccine. The point is unless you are a very influential person who can make it so Desantis is the candidate instead of Trump you don't have very many options. You can vote for either of the two candidates or you can not vote (same as voting for some third party as a protest vote).

There are two ways to look at this, either you can use this as motivation to become actively involved in politics or you can use this as a motivation to become more actively involved in the gospel. Saying you won't support Trump doesn't mean anything, unless you were a major donor or some key figure in his campaign.
 

ZNP

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Jesus is Lord

As evil and harmful as the Covid19 bioweapon was and the vaccine that was forced on the world despite it being experimental, deadly and ineffective on this forum we should all be able to see that all of these things have happened under the sovereignty of Jesus. None of this could have happened had not Jesus allowed it.

Psalm 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

The reason the whole world took that vaccine and now have AIDS from this vaccine is because they were not abiding under the shadow of the almighty. The reason snakes bit the Israelites in the wilderness is because they despised the manna, the daily time in the word with the Lord. If you don't diagnose the real issue correctly you will never be able to treat the real problem. Neither Trump nor Desantis is going to help anyone spend more time with the Lord in His word. That is the cure, turn to Jesus, lift up Jesus in your midst and look on Him.
 

ZNP

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Wake Up!

If you said you estimated that 5,000 people had snuck into the US illegally, many of them working with Cartels selling drugs that are killing kids I'd say we have a problem but it is understandable given the size of our border.

50,000 people that is more than a problem, 500,000 people that is incompetence at its highest level. But they are estimating the number is 5,000,000. That isn't a problem, it isn't incompetence, it is an invasion being carried out by those who are planning on taking over this country. It is an invasion on the scale of D day and the idea that anyone is even debating this tells me they are mentally incompetent or part of the insurrection.

The same is true of January 6th. If someone looks at this reasonably and says it was a stupid and bad event, OK, I agree. But we are almost two years after the event and we don't know who planted the pipe bomb? We have not had a trial for the person who shot and killed Ashli Babbit? Joe Biden is still lying about cops being killed by the protestors? Clear instigators in this have been let go? Meanwhile they did next to nothing about real riots, real looting, real government buildings being burned down. This isn't still a debate, you have to be an idiot to keep debating with liars like Schiff, Schumer, and AOC. Joe Biden calls 75 million Americans who voted for Trump "semi fascists"? This right after he raids the home of his political opponent? Democrats complaining that Trump is still speaking on social media? If you can't see who the real fascists are then get your eyes checked, you are legally blind.

We have had 110 food processing plants burn down.

We are in an energy crisis that was man made when Biden shut down pipelines and outlawed drilling. We were energy independent on a full spectrum when Biden took office. This is what invading armies do to prepare the way for an attack.

We handed over billions of dollars of state of the art military equipment to the Taliban, a terrorist government that will attack the US? Come on, if you don't realize that there is someone out to destroy America and they are in the camp you are willfully "see no evil, hear no evil".

This administration is printing money so fast they have no idea what to do with it and as a result we are looking at 20-25% inflation. They are not stupid people, this isn't a joke, this is a concerted effort to destroy the US and the US currency. Control food, you control people, control energy you control countries, control money you control the world. If you want to rule the world you have to destroy the US and that is what we are seeing right now.

Defund the police -- how could that have led to anything other than rising crime and destabilize our cities.

Covid19 came from a bioweapons lab and they lied about that. Clearly, to your face, lied about it. The vaccine is killing more people than Covid ever did. They mandated it illegally. They forced the military to get it and now we know it gives you AIDS. Come on, we are at war. Anyone smart enough to do all this knew that you could only go like this for a couple of years before it became plain to all. The war is about to go kinetic.
 

Solemateleft

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Sole, Alex is absolutely 100% correct with everything he is saying here.

Trump CANNOT afford to lose the 25% - 30% of people that did not take the gene therapy death shot that Trump REFUSES to admit is a monstrous mistake, that he arrogantly STILL says saved millions of lives.
His hubris, and inability to admit when he is wrong was ALWAYS Trump's greatest flaw.
I, and millions of others will NOT support him if he still pushes that the vaccine HE initiated with operation Warp Speed, is good.
End of story.

Exclusive: Trump Responds to Alex Jones Covid Vax Challenge (banned.video)
I get it... There remains a lot of confusion for sure on this sore subject... This is one of those topics (of many given the nature of this type of Information Warfare) that I remain in the wait and see mode to hear and see what the Ground Truth actually is...
I frankly DO NOT SEE ANYTHING ANYONE has said over the past TWO - THREE Years as black or white to be believed at FACE VALUE...
I'm of the mind that the very nature of Information Warfare is that both sides are spewing mis-information and dis-information as a means of strategic moves within the broader chess match...
I'm equally skeptical that both sides were deliberately inflating statistics (Pros & Cons) as a means of influencing their respective target audiences... At the same time, there was and is lots of chatter that early stages of Operation Warp Speed under his watch - that was by design framed around the Military serving as the source for distribution - where PLACEBOs were rumored to have been swapped in at the distribution sites...
I'm also of the Mind (holding out/undecided) that Barr and Pence might just be found out to be Plants playing a role as Double Agents within the broader Chessboard of Deception Operations as part of the greatest Sting Operation ever...
 

gb9

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I get it... There remains a lot of confusion for sure on this sore subject... This is one of those topics (of many given the nature of this type of Information Warfare) that I remain in the wait and see mode to hear and see what the Ground Truth actually is...
I frankly DO NOT SEE ANYTHING ANYONE has said over the past TWO - THREE Years as black or white to be believed at FACE VALUE...
I'm of the mind that the very nature of Information Warfare is that both sides are spewing mis-information and dis-information as a means of strategic moves within the broader chess match...
I'm equally skeptical that both sides were deliberately inflating statistics (Pros & Cons) as a means of influencing their respective target audiences... At the same time, there was and is lots of chatter that early stages of Operation Warp Speed under his watch - that was by design framed around the Military serving as the source for distribution - where PLACEBOs were rumored to have been swapped in at the distribution sites...
I'm also of the Mind (holding out/undecided) that Barr and Pence might just be found out to be Plants playing a role as Double Agents within the broader Chessboard of Deception Operations as part of the greatest Sting Operation ever...

see, this is why infowars's straight forward messaging on stuff is so much better than the 4 d chess word salad you just posted here...
 

Solemateleft

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X22 Report: Bait Expends Ammunition! Pain Comes In Many Different Forms! Full Control! - Must Video
Thursday, September 1, 2022 19:55

The [DS] is struggling, they do not have the leverage and the patriots are baiting them to expend ammunition. The [DS] players are feeling pain every step of the way, remember the Sun Tzu saying, appear weak when you are strong. Trump is baiting the enemy in, he wants them to make all the moves, he wants the world to see their moves, he wants the people to see the [DS], he wants the people to see how evil they truly are. Sometime you must show the people, pain comes in many different forms, full control.
 

Solemateleft

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X22 Report: Boomerang! Green New Deal Just Fell Apart! Federal Reserve & WEF Failed! - Optional Must Video
Thursday, September 1, 2022 15:52

The people around the world are rising up, the leaders are panicking, they are blaming the anger on climate change, but the people are angry at the criminal leaders. The [CB]/[WEF] agenda is falling apart, the green push has hit a wall, the people see this very clearly, [CB] panicking.

FACT CHECK: In 18 months with Democrats and RINO’s in power.

1. Highest fuel prices in history.
2. Highest inflation in 40 years.
3. Recession, quickly turning into a depression.
4. Tax hikes, adding 87,000 ARM/IRS agents.
5. Wars everywhere.
6. Open borders with not just 1,2,3 but thousands pouring in 24/7.
7. The drug/Cartel crisis at the border.
8. DEFUND the police, oh wait FUND the police.


Dem midterm voters – “please give me more of this!”
 

Solemateleft

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X22 Report: The Federal Reserve Reset Will Fail! There Is An Economic Reckoning Coming! - Lior Gantz - Must Video
Thursday, September 1, 2022 10:00

Lior runs numerous successful businesses, and has traveled to over 30 countries in the past decade, he is an entrepreneur and investor. He is the founder of wealthresearchgroup.com. Lior begins the conversation talking about the economy and how the Fed is having a problem controlling inflation. The system is breaking down and the Fed and other [CB] are trying to mask it to make people think it is just happening naturally. The [CB] and [WEF] plan will not work in the end, the people see through their evil.
 

Solemateleft

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see, this is why infowars's straight forward messaging on stuff is so much better than the 4 d chess word salad you just posted here...
LOL, I do get your confusion and inherent challenge in understanding Real World Information Warfare Strategic Plans and Operations... Especially given that your almighty blowhard "InfoWar's" carries a mis-leading title to suggest that they have a notion for what real Pol-Mil Information Warfare really is... The obvious flaw with their IGNORANCE and MIS-REPRESENTATION of any form of WARFARE is that it REQUIRES TWO ADVERSARIES... They FACT that InfoWars fails to acknowledge and address who the DS's biggest Threat and Adversary is - is EVIDENT of either 1) their IGNORANCE of Pol-Mil Information Warfare or 2) ILLUSTRATIVE of which side of this Information Warfare they are ALIGNED with... It goes without saying that they are an advocate of enforcing the DS narrative by imposing FEAR upon the People and attacking those who advocate for opposing the DS...
This is simple deduction... and substantiated...
As AJ has lost all credibility with his family ties/alliance with the corrupt CIA and his INABILITY to produce a shread of evidence in his own defense in is recent legal loses... LoL... he gives Conspiracy Theorists a bad name... haha ;) at least the Patriots can produce data, evidence, and defensible facts to head off the DS plants every time they poke their heads up after being triggered with the mere mention of 45 or the 17th letter of the alphabet... can you say MK Ultra... ;)
 

Solemateleft

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Coming from Gregg Phillips - manufacturer of The 2000 Mules - this is HUGE NEWS!!!
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Solemateleft

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PennEd

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that was secondary, you said that you would not vote for Trump unless he apologized for pushing out the vaccine in warp speed. So I asked, OK, if you aren't going to vote for him are we to understand you will be voting for his opponent which at this point would be Biden, Harris or Newsom as the most likely opponent.
STOP putting words in my mouth and making unfounded assumptions. Show me where I even MENTIONED the word 'vote".

I don't believe you have yet to watch the Jones video I posted, or you wouldn't have made the comments and assumptions you have.

There are two ways to look at this, either you can use this as motivation to become actively involved in politics or you can use this as a motivation to become more actively involved in the gospel
No one has made more political threads than you.
To mix "actively involved in the Gospel" is a disingenuous tactic. I fully understand the vast importance the Gospel takes over ANY earthly concern. But that's not what this thread is about, and I am able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

You continue to post false prophecies from guys that have been demonstrably wrong over and over, only to make excuses for their false prophecies like the Nibiru collision for instance, or the false prophecies of Coverstone, and Stan Johnson without apology, simply moving on to the next false prophecy.

The tragedy is we both want much of the same things, but your desire to jump to all sorts of conclusions, based on minimal evidence, seems to be getting worse. It may be why you gravitate so close to the "apostles" who continually make false, or half true prophecies.

Now please STOP.