NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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Pence told Trump he was wrong about 2020 therefore he is Judas.

Bill Barr told Trump he is wrong about 2020, Also a Judas.

Multiple staff and advisers who worked faithfully hard for him and his reelection, told him he was wrong about 2020. They’re also Judas.

Many Trump appointed judges threw out his cases regarding 2020. Even more Judases.

ALL these people went from avid supporters to insta-Judas just like that for some reason.

EVERY ONE OF THEM.

It’s either that, or Trump is wrong about 2020.

Which is more believable?

ALL of those loyal supporters went Rogue Judas for whatever reason, or that maybe possibly, Trump is wrong on this?

It’‘s almost as if it’s impossible for Trump to be wrong, and even if you totally had his back, but disagree on this One thing, you become Judas.

Convenient yeah?
 

Solemateleft

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Pence told Trump he was wrong about 2020 therefore he is Judas.

Bill Barr told Trump he is wrong about 2020, Also a Judas.

Multiple staff and advisers who worked faithfully hard for him and his reelection, told him he was wrong about 2020. They’re also Judas.

Many Trump appointed judges threw out his cases regarding 2020. Even more Judases.

ALL these people went from avid supporters to insta-Judas just like that for some reason.

EVERY ONE OF THEM.

It’s either that, or Trump is wrong about 2020.

Which is more believable?

ALL of those loyal supporters went Rogue Judas for whatever reason, or that maybe possibly, Trump is wrong on this?

It’‘s almost as if it’s impossible for Trump to be wrong, and even if you totally had his back, but disagree on this One thing, you become Judas.

Convenient yeah?
Very Valid conventional (black & white) reasoning...
Albeit, all bets are off when it comes to Irregular Whole of Government Warfare...
Where there is very often lots of Uncertainty and Grey Area when it comes to recognizing and realizing who are actually on the side of the White Hats and the Black Hats in this epic war of Good vs Evil...
Much like historic Warfare of the past and Bible, there are very often Spys, Double Agents, and in this case the New IRREGULAR Dimension that is being presented are the potential Role Players who are simply PLAYING a ROLE to create the conditions for the greatest STING OPERATION in the HISTORY of the World...
If true, it will result in an Epic and BIBLICAL turn of events - similar to what the White Hats have been telling us about for several years... The sort of Element of Surprise that would be necessary, and critical for the only potential and viable means to ever take down the DEEP STATE that has been ruling this world a lot longer than since 2020...
 
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Very Valid conventional (black & white) reasoning...
Albeit, all bets are off when it comes to Irregular Whole of Government Warfare...
Where there is very often lots of Uncertainty and Grey Area when it comes to recognizing and realizing who are actually on the side of the White Hats and the Black Hats in this epic war of Good vs Evil...
Much like historic Warfare of the past and Bible, there are very often Spys, Double Agents, and in this case the New IRREGULAR Dimension that is being presented are the potential Role Players who are simply PLAYING a ROLE to create the conditions for the greatest STING OPERATION in the HISTORY of the World...
If true, it will result in an Epic and BIBLICAL turn of events - similar to what the White Hats have been telling us about for several years... The sort of Element of Surprise that would be necessary, and critical for the only potential and viable means to ever take down the DEEP STATE that has been ruling this world a lot longer than since 2020...
AAAAAND everyone who said he lost was clearly a spy. Again, convenient.

How to keep out of the you’re a spy/judas/deep state acolyte zone?
Don’t say Trump is wrong.


Incredibly convenient. This mentality is only seen in the mob and cults.
 

Solemateleft

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AAAAAND everyone who said he lost was clearly a spy. Again, convenient.
How to keep out of the you’re a spy/judas/deep state acolyte zone?
Don’t say Trump is wrong.
Incredibly convenient. This mentality is only seen in the mob and cults.
Well... in Irregular and Information Warfare there are No Absolutes ... there are No "Everyone X or Y or Z" as the very nature of Uncertainty during an Information War is not knowing who is pushing Mis-Information or Dis-Information for their own Nefarious sides HIDDEN AGENDA...

YES, the mentality of the MOB is a good analogy... while the reference to cults only serves to cloud the already murky state of Chaos... Unless of course the reference is pointing at the Satanic Cults that are being exposed on the side of the Deep State Leftists...
 
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Well... in Irregular and Information Warfare there are No Absolutes ... there are No "Everyone X or Y or Z" as the very nature of Uncertainty during an Information War is not knowing who is pushing Mis-Information or Dis-Information for their own Nefarious sides HIDDEN AGENDA...

YES, the mentality of the MOB is a good analogy... while the reference to cults only serves to cloud the already murky state of Chaos... Unless of course the reference is pointing at the Satanic Cults that are being exposed on the side of the Deep State Leftists...
If America wants their country back, they need to depart from the cults of WOKEism, and the cult of AlwaysTrumpBecauseHeCantBeWrongEver
 

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If America wants their country back, they need to depart from the cults of WOKEism, and the cult of AlwaysTrumpBecauseHeCantBeWrongEver
one more thing we need- a media that does not outright lie,. and do things like point out every blemish on one side, and ignore any stain on " their side".

in other words, se need intellectual honesty.
 
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one more thing we need- a media that does not outright lie,. and do things like point out every blemish on one side, and ignore any stain on " their side".

in other words, se need intellectual honesty.
I’m what objective looks like, and you see how some are responding.


What people usually mean when they say they want objective media, is that they want a major media voice to tell them the stuff they want to be true. If us righties really wanted objective media, Newsmaxx, OAN, OAV, and Fox News would all be disposed of too.
 

Solemateleft

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If America wants their country back, they need to depart from the cults of WOKEism, and the cult of AlwaysTrumpBecauseHeCantBeWrongEver
Yes... the Country needs to become UNIFIED...
The good news is that the CURRENT SYSTEM is BROKEN and in need of TEARING-DOWN and Starting from Skratch Regardless of the DREAM ...
SPOILER ALERT - the Final Outcome is NOT going to be an EITHER or CONVENTIONAL situation or choice...
I do believe that the direction we are going... If you have been tracking what the 'White Hats' have been pushing from this thread - that the DS is going to force us down a DIRE PATH that will inevitably UNITE the COUNTRY and the WORLD...

THIS was NEVER just about the 2020 ELECTION... and this was never just about the LEFT vs the RIGHT as the Corrupt DS Left & Fake News have spoiled the crop in our ability to EVER TRUST MSM again under the current construct...

This is ABOUT the GLOBAL DS ELITISTS Who are running the World and Pulling the CORRUPT STRINGS across the Whole of Government, Diplomacy, Information, Infrastructure, and Economics... This is about the Spiritual War between Forces of Good vs Evil...

Spoiler Alert - God Wins and the Meek shall inherit the earth... "God's Children are NOT for SALE!!"
 

Solemateleft

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I’m what objective looks like, and you see how some are responding.
What people usually mean when they say they want objective media, is that they want a major media voice to tell them the stuff they want to be true. If us righties really wanted objective media, Newsmaxx, OAN, OAV, and Fox News would all be disposed of too.
LOL... This is funny... so how do we go about ensuring that your objective truth is accessible and available for all? I'm all for it, lets do it...
Ummm, I think this is exactly what the White Hats have been doing...
TRUTH is RELATIVE to Ground Truth... but who has the handle on that given the nature of the Information Warfare that is ongoing...
Maybe you are new to this thread? The White Hats have helped us to realize that MSM is largely controlled DS Fake News and have ensured people have access to Citizen Journalism via alternative platforms that can not be Censored (as much) on Rumble, Telegram, Truth Social, now Twitter/X... etc...
 

gb9

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I’m what objective looks like, and you see how some are responding.


What people usually mean when they say they want objective media, is that they want a major media voice to tell them the stuff they want to be true. If us righties really wanted objective media, Newsmaxx, OAN, OAV, and Fox News would all be disposed of too.
yes, but we have is one going " biden good trump bad" and the other saying " trump innocent , biden criminal".

what we need is - " here are these things that trump did, and here are things biden did....."

that is balance...
 
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yes, but we have is one going " biden good trump bad" and the other saying " trump innocent , biden criminal".

what we need is - " here are these things that trump did, and here are things biden did....."

that is balance...
America is held hostage by two dueling cults, and both are going to pump you full of poison punch. Kick ‘em to the side and fly above it.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I’m what objective looks like, and you see how some are responding.


What people usually mean when they say they want objective media, is that they want a major media voice to tell them the stuff they want to be true. If us righties really wanted objective media, Newsmaxx, OAN, OAV, and Fox News would all be disposed of too.

You're not objective if you don't see the MSM is 110% bought and paid for by the Dems. And that changes elections. Not Fox, Newsmaxx, OAN or OAV. We would know the little bit of truth we do except for these other stations, though Fox is quickly turning liberal. MSM is totally Dem talking points. The hardest question they lob at Joe is what sprinkles he likes on his ice cream. He walks away, or simply stands there and laughs at questions. If one of Trumps kids was accused of one thing, ONE that Hunter is, you would never head the end of it, they sure as blazes wouldn't have buried the story to get him elected. Cocaine in the WH, look how quickly that story was quieted. Oh we just don't know how that got there. Tell that to a dead horse and he'd get up and kick your guts out. Don't tell you're objective and pretend like MSM isn't Dem talking points. smh
 

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If America wants their country back, they need to depart from the cults of WOKEism, and the cult of AlwaysTrumpBecauseHeCantBeWrongEver

VS what? Trump is never right because Dems talking points?! These people loved this guy when he was one of their own. All kinds of pictures with them snuggled up under his arms. Loved them some Trump UNTIL he ran as a conservative!! Had he run as a Dem you wouldn't have heard a peep about his life. But nooooo he did the worst thing that could ever be done, he went conservative!!! Now he can't even get the time of day right. Mocked him, said he'd never win, big laugh and he won. Oh crap!! Now we have to teach him a lesson, that you don't turn your back on the cool kids. The second he came down the escalator it was go time. And I believe he was shocked that they turned against him so badly. And they treated his wife worse than dirt. Trump has been bashed more than any president ever and his family along with him, just because he turned his back on the cool kids and called them out. Now they are determined to kill his presidency, his business, his reputation, his family, his future. I for one like a David and Goliath story and I hope he not only wins again, I hope he wins biggly and shuts down Biden and his handlers for good!!!
 

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Pence told Trump he was wrong about 2020 therefore he is Judas.

Bill Barr told Trump he is wrong about 2020, Also a Judas.
If 3% Joe and 2% Kammy got more votes than the first black president, let alone Trump, I have some ocean front property for ya. Joe ran from his basement and couldn't get 12 cars to show up to support him and Trump had 60 thousand people and he lost??! I was part of a Trump support caravan. There were people lining the streets with flags and signs. Huge line of vehicles all in support of Trump. Happened all over the country. But you want us to believe 3% Joe and 2% Kammy won the election square and fair?! You don't live here, you didn't see the signs everywhere, the flags, the support. I was in a town he was in after the election and he STILL had over 60 thousand people there. There were people selling mech everywhere you went. You couldn't find a motel/hotel for miles around. We went in to a restaurant to eat that night and everyone was on their phones watching their phones. And he did that all over the country. But bumbling Joe and gigglin' Kammy won, yeah right, tell to a dead horse, like I said. rofl
 
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If 3% Joe and 2% Kammy got more votes than the first black president, let alone Trump, I have some ocean front property for ya. Joe ran from his basement and couldn't get 12 cars to show up to support him and Trump had 60 thousand people and he lost??! I was part of a Trump support caravan. There were people lining the streets with flags and signs. Huge line of vehicles all in support of Trump. Happened all over the country. But you want us to believe 3% Joe and 2% Kammy won the election square and fair?! You don't live here, you didn't see the signs everywhere, the flags, the support. I was in a town he was in after the election and he STILL had over 60 thousand people there. There were people selling mech everywhere you went. You couldn't find a motel/hotel for miles around. We went in to a restaurant to eat that night and everyone was on their phones watching their phones. And he did that all over the country. But bumbling Joe and gigglin' Kammy won, yeah right, tell to a dead horse, like I said. rofl
The thing is, polls don’t determine voting reality, and large crowds don’t determine reality. Actual votes do.

All of the sudden you laude the value of polls?
Again convenient, because before 2020,whenever Trump was behind in one, they were fake news.
Once again, a fantastic display of contorting reality and changing accepted reality from an AlwaysTrump cultist to say he can’t lose or be wrong.