NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

at the moment you have 0 credibility with me.

I don't need you to tell me that the election had not been decertified, or that Biden has not been impeached. You come across as an arrogant a** thinking I or anyone else needs someone to say that.

What I am also aware of is the crimes that have been revealed on Biden that should be a basis for impeachment. I am aware of calls being made from senators and congressmen to begin that inquiry.

I am also aware of all the evidence concerning the election, not simply the fact that judges have refused to hear the evidence. I am aware that over 50% of the American people do not trust our election integrity and that should under any reasonable situation be considered an absolute crisis in our democracy which must be addressed with a full and complete audit of each state's election process along with a canvass and an effort to clean up the voter registration. I consider people like yourself telling those with questions to shut up, that you are the problem, not the solution. It doesn't matter which 50% are right, those who are not worried about our elections or those that are, in a democracy we care about both groups and we must act so that the vast majority of the people can trust the process.

So on one hand you have someone (me) posting actual facts. , , ,



Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440

And you laying down the diversionary he’s arrogant card.

A pompous #$% can say that water is wet, and it doesn’t make it any less true. And trying to disprove that water is wet, by pointing out the speaker is pompous, doesn’t disprove the water is wet.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

I know Buddha talked sh*t sometimes, but his "commonsense" quote was spot on..

Incidentally I walked out of the 'Defence Talk' forum last week because they couldn't handle the truth, I said Ukraine can't possibly win the war, and nearly the whole bloody forum turned on me, calling me a troll and stuff.
I guess they just can't handle the truth like we Christians can..

Jesus said- "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free...Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” ("John 8:32,John 18:37)
"..no lie comes from the truth"- 1 John 2:21
"The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it"- (Ayn Rand 1905-1982)

What in the bleepitty bloopiddly blop are you talking about?

I post actual facts, disproving lies in this thread, and your reaction is to affirm the lies told, and call the person posting the facts a liar afraid of embracing truth?

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440

Look in the mirror my friend.

 

[Dropship]

Intresting. the vaccine was this huge attempt at something evil.
Yet Trump bragged about the speed of getting the vaccine out in operation warp speed.
Doesn’t that make him part of the problem too?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...le-for-90-of-vaccine-rollout/?sh=5d86d4661848

Trump trusted Big Pharma, they played him for a sucker just like they did the rest of us..
And to keep the con going they've been saying people need "boosters", and that they also need more shots against different strains and mutations..
PS- I've never had the vax, I just couldn't be bothered.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Folks, you’re seeing it on full display right here. People embracing a strong delusion, as verified facts are flashed in front of their eyes. Attacking the giver of facts, as they either fully embrace the giver of lies, or give him a pass.

This is end times stuff, people embracing delusions. It doesn’t happen just by those on the left, it happens to Christians too. Only for Christians it’s worse, because we’re wrapping the lies in God, scripture, etc.

 

[ZNP]

Now that’s really interesting. I document proven repeated lies, and your first reaction isn’t to see those lies, and find a comparison between the liar and the father of lies, but rather to find a comparison between the guy showing documented facts and Fauci who is has shaky credibility.

I guess scripture was right about people giving into strong delusions in the end times.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440

I hope everyone can look at these closely.

"False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021" -- In 2021 the vaccine was mandated forcing my wife and I to resign our jobs, sell our house and move. That process took seven months. If you did not give people adequate warning then that is the same as no warning. We closed on the house in Spring of 2022, within a week or two of closing interest rates began rising. Had we waited a few months before making that decision we would have lost about $100k on the house simply from the rising interest rates.

"False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021" -- Again, if there is a economic collapse on the horizon how long will it take you to prepare? How are you going to prepare? Watch the movie the Big Short. Michael Burry is in a massive problem with his investors wanting to pull out and he says "I'm not wrong, I might be early but I'm not wrong". Today everyone knows he wasn't wrong. Also, watch that movie, you will see that months before the collapse you couldn't short the housing market. Everything was a lie. Ratings agencies said everything was fine while the market makers refused to take the other side of a short. If your house is sitting on a cliff that is going to collapse, once it is obvious no one will buy the house. A fair warning would be several years ahead of time giving you time to sell and leave. It is stupid to try and time things to the minute. This is like running to the store to buy water when the hurricane is going to strike in 24 hours, you get there and discover it has all been sold already.

"False claim of storm of the century" -- LOL. Really? Are you this blind that you can't see this?

"A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office." -- Wow! Evidence has been released that a family member brought Cocaine into the Whitehouse, that is enough to remove anyone from office yet the Secret Service is mum about this? Evidence is out there that Biden has mishandled classified documents, a crime serious enough to be considered a felony if your name is Trump but apparently doesn't rise to the required "misdemeanor" for Biden. Evidence has been released that Biden's crime family received upwards of $50 million from foreign countries and Biden received his money in bank accounts with aliases. Seriously, you think you have proven this claim is false? You come across as a complete clown.

Three claims of proof concerning the certification of the election. I think I will choose to wait and not judge before the time rather than listen to clownworld.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Trump trusted Big Pharma, they played him for a sucker just like they did the rest of us..
And to keep the con going they've been saying people need "boosters", and that they also need more shots against different strains and mutations..
PS- I've never had the vax, I just couldn't be bothered.

Now Trump is a big sucker?

Let’s reelect the sucker who gave us the VAXXX, and who didn’t fire Fauci.

Makes sense.

So you’ve just admitted Trump is a sucker.
The admitted sucker, believed the lies from a handful of crackpot lawyers who told him he won, as he ignored as lies, repeated attempts from people who have his back, that he actually lost.

Yep, a total sucker.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

I hope everyone can look at these closely.

"False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021" -- In 2021 the vaccine was mandated forcing my wife and I to resign our jobs, sell our house and move. That process took seven months. If you did not give people adequate warning then that is the same as no warning. We closed on the house in Spring of 2022, within a week or two of closing interest rates began rising. Had we waited a few months before making that decision we would have lost about $100k on the house simply from the rising interest rates.

"False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021" -- Again, if there is a economic collapse on the horizon how long will it take you to prepare? How are you going to prepare? Watch the movie the Big Short. Michael Burry is in a massive problem with his investors wanting to pull out and he says "I'm not wrong, I might be early but I'm not wrong". Today everyone knows he wasn't wrong. Also, watch that movie, you will see that months before the collapse you couldn't short the housing market. Everything was a lie. Ratings agencies said everything was fine while the market makers refused to take the other side of a short. If your house is sitting on a cliff that is going to collapse, once it is obvious no one will buy the house. A fair warning would be several years ahead of time giving you time to sell and leave. It is stupid to try and time things to the minute. This is like running to the store to buy water when the hurricane is going to strike in 24 hours, you get there and discover it has all been sold already.

"False claim of storm of the century" -- LOL. Really? Are you this blind that you can't see this?

"A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office." -- Wow! Evidence has been released that a family member brought Cocaine into the Whitehouse, that is enough to remove anyone from office yet the Secret Service is mum about this? Evidence is out there that Biden has mishandled classified documents, a crime serious enough to be considered a felony if your name is Trump but apparently doesn't rise to the required "misdemeanor" for Biden. Evidence has been released that Biden's crime family received upwards of $50 million from foreign countries and Biden received his money in bank accounts with aliases. Seriously, you think you have proven this claim is false? You come across as a complete clown.

Three claims of proof concerning the certification of the election. I think I will choose to wait and not judge before the time rather than listen to clownworld.

These were all said with a sense they are just about to happen they didn’t.

 

[Moses_Young]

Best case scenario, this guy is delusional, and has no clue that he’s posting lie after lie.

A bad case scenario, he knows he’s posting lies and doesn’t care.

A worst case scenario, he is part of a foreign disinformation campaign to cause disruption in American elections. (This seems far fetched to me. Would be a waste of time and resources to do it on this site. But who knows.)

Please don’t simply view the above as another instance of crackpot fact checking we see from the MSM. My examples pan out as actual examples of posting of real lies.

Regardless of his motive, it stands he can not be trusted to give reliable information on these matters.

Perhaps his information is correct, but his presumptions about the timings are led more by emotion? Your evidence doesn't justify your claim that he is delusional, more that he is optimistic.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

I hope everyone can look at these closely.

"False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021" -- In 2021 the vaccine was mandated forcing my wife and I to resign our jobs, sell our house and move. That process took seven months. If you did not give people adequate warning then that is the same as no warning. We closed on the house in Spring of 2022, within a week or two of closing interest rates began rising. Had we waited a few months before making that decision we would have lost about $100k on the house simply from the rising interest rates.

"False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021" -- Again, if there is a economic collapse on the horizon how long will it take you to prepare? How are you going to prepare? Watch the movie the Big Short. Michael Burry is in a massive problem with his investors wanting to pull out and he says "I'm not wrong, I might be early but I'm not wrong". Today everyone knows he wasn't wrong. Also, watch that movie, you will see that months before the collapse you couldn't short the housing market. Everything was a lie. Ratings agencies said everything was fine while the market makers refused to take the other side of a short. If your house is sitting on a cliff that is going to collapse, once it is obvious no one will buy the house. A fair warning would be several years ahead of time giving you time to sell and leave. It is stupid to try and time things to the minute. This is like running to the store to buy water when the hurricane is going to strike in 24 hours, you get there and discover it has all been sold already.

"False claim of storm of the century" -- LOL. Really? Are you this blind that you can't see this?

"A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office." -- Wow! Evidence has been released that a family member brought Cocaine into the Whitehouse, that is enough to remove anyone from office yet the Secret Service is mum about this? Evidence is out there that Biden has mishandled classified documents, a crime serious enough to be considered a felony if your name is Trump but apparently doesn't rise to the required "misdemeanor" for Biden. Evidence has been released that Biden's crime family received upwards of $50 million from foreign countries and Biden received his money in bank accounts with aliases. Seriously, you think you have proven this claim is false? You come across as a complete clown.

Three claims of proof concerning the certification of the election. I think I will choose to wait and not judge before the time rather than listen to clownworld.

I hope everyone can look at these closely.

"False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021" -- In 2021 the vaccine was mandated forcing my wife and I to resign our jobs, sell our house and move. That process took seven months. If you did not give people adequate warning then that is the same as no warning. We closed on the house in Spring of 2022, within a week or two of closing interest rates began rising. Had we waited a few months before making that decision we would have lost about $100k on the house simply from the rising interest rates.

"False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021" -- Again, if there is a economic collapse on the horizon how long will it take you to prepare? How are you going to prepare? Watch the movie the Big Short. Michael Burry is in a massive problem with his investors wanting to pull out and he says "I'm not wrong, I might be early but I'm not wrong". Today everyone knows he wasn't wrong. Also, watch that movie, you will see that months before the collapse you couldn't short the housing market. Everything was a lie. Ratings agencies said everything was fine while the market makers refused to take the other side of a short. If your house is sitting on a cliff that is going to collapse, once it is obvious no one will buy the house. A fair warning would be several years ahead of time giving you time to sell and leave. It is stupid to try and time things to the minute. This is like running to the store to buy water when the hurricane is going to strike in 24 hours, you get there and discover it has all been sold already.

"False claim of storm of the century" -- LOL. Really? Are you this blind that you can't see this?

"A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office." -- Wow! Evidence has been released that a family member brought Cocaine into the Whitehouse, that is enough to remove anyone from office yet the Secret Service is mum about this? Evidence is out there that Biden has mishandled classified documents, a crime serious enough to be considered a felony if your name is Trump but apparently doesn't rise to the required "misdemeanor" for Biden. Evidence has been released that Biden's crime family received upwards of $50 million from foreign countries and Biden received his money in bank accounts with aliases. Seriously, you think you have proven this claim is false? You come across as a complete clown.

Three claims of proof concerning the certification of the election. I think I will choose to wait and not judge before the time rather than listen to clownworld.

Your proof of information leading to the removal of Biden from the whitehouse is the cocaine incident.
They found the coke in 2023.
That claim was made in 2021.

You saying they had psychics who saw that happening In 2023?

Your claim that coke is proof of this verified claim is bogus.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Perhaps his information is correct, but his presumptions about the timings are led more by emotion? Your evidence doesn't justify your claim that he is delusional, more that he is optimistic.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273

It’s amazing how people keep ignoring the first one, from our self proclaimed well educated truther.

 

[ZNP]

These were all said with a sense they are just about to happen they didn’t.

Your viewpoint has been recorded here for posterity. We will see how well this holds up over the next two years.

 

[Moses_Young]

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273

It’s amazing how people keep ignoring the first one, from our self proclaimed well educated truther.

So he got tricked by a doctored photograph? Ever heard of NASA? Most everyone has been. (I myself believed the photograph was legitimate until your comments, which seem reasonable also - so I'm not sure now.)

 

[Dropship]

What in the bleepitty bloopiddly blop are you talking about?
I post actual facts, disproving lies in this thread, and your reaction is to affirm the lies told, and call the person posting the facts a liar afraid of embracing truth?..

Ah, but it cuts both ways, for example how do we know if the "facts" that you yourself are posting are true?.
Thankfully forums like this one are places where we can discuss, debate and analyse "facts" to decide if they're true.
PS- please try to post "facts" one at a time rather than a big shotgun blast of them all at once, so that we can analyse them one at a time with carefully-aimed one-shot sniper fire..
How about it Mike?-

"This is this"

 

[ZNP]

Your proof of information leading to the removal of Biden from the whitehouse is the cocaine incident.
They found the coke in 2023.
That claim was made in 2021.

You saying they had psychics who saw that happening In 2023?

Your claim that coke is proof of this verified claim is bogus.

We will see, if Biden is not removed from office then you will be right. Your viewpoint has been recorded here and we will know by Nov. of 2024 whether or not you are right or a complete clown.

 

[Moses_Young]

We will see, if Biden is not removed from office then you will be right. Your viewpoint has been recorded here and we will know by Nov. of 2024 whether or not you are right or a complete clown.

November of 2024, or January 2025? I thought presidents were actually installed a few months afterward?

 

[ZNP]

The Canary in the coal mine

There are two viewpoints here, one is a crazy guy ranting and raving for the last week to shut this thread down and to slander people posting on this thread.

The other is wanting to allow people to share their concerns freely without censorship. Whether or not we agree, it is still good to be able to hear what people are saying.

 

[ZNP]

November of 2024, or January 2025? I thought presidents were actually installed a few months afterward?

If we have completed the election and either a democrat or republican is elected, but not Biden, and then he is removed, that would not, IMO be a confirmation of what we are talking about here. Instead it would look like the DS got the replacement they wanted and then removed Biden. Even if Kamala takes over at that point she would be a complete puppet of the DS and unable to ruin anything.

What is being discussed in this thread is a DS insurrection where unelected bureaucrats are running the country and the battle is over who runs the country, the DS or the American voter.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Perhaps his information is correct, but his presumptions about the timings are led more by emotion? Your evidence doesn't justify your claim that he is delusional, more that he is optimistic.

So he got tricked by a doctored photograph? Ever heard of NASA? Most everyone has been. (I myself believed the photograph was legitimate until your comments, which seem reasonable also - so I'm not sure now.)

He literally proclaimed himself a highly educated credential expert in these matters. Not just some random guy off the streets sharing content. Look at the screenshot.



“I am a retired Marine Infantry officer with a Master’s Degree in Operations Research

I just checked and confirmed that you are actually very NEW HERE... So shame on me for not being more welcoming...
I'm what we refer to as a self proclaimed 'Christian Patriot Truther'
I'm a Christian First, Patriot 2nd and Conservative 3rd...
I come from a military family... I am a retired Marine Infantry Officer with a Master's Degree in Operations Research (Statistical Analysis) with a specialty in Human Behavior and Irregular Warfare and Whole of Government Warfare...
I have been exposed to the Obama/HRC corruption first hand, but I never understood what the Deep State was until I saw the DS CV19 Plan come together to help them to steal the election...
I have seen, touched, analyzed and helped expose the volumes of election fraud data, as well as the corrupt CV19 and Vaccine data...
The Facts speak for themselves ... Being an expert in this type of Information and Irregular Warfare just happens to be my area of expertise...
So what are your credentials for backing your strongly held opinions?

If he were just some rando off the street sharing content, then for sure give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s not just some rando off the street. He’s claiming to be highly informed and credentialed on these matters.

Credentialed educated experts don’t let their zeal get in the way, and they shouldn’t fall victim to doctored photos.

The ways people are contorting themselves to affirm the lies is amazing.

 

[Dropship]

Alright hotshots, is this pic of a poor woman getting hit by a wheel that flew off a racing car true or fake?
Tell us how you arrive at your answer..

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

If we have completed the election and either a democrat or republican is elected, but not Biden, and then he is removed, that would not, IMO be a confirmation of what we are talking about here. Instead it would look like the DS got the replacement they wanted and then removed Biden. Even if Kamala takes over at that point she would be a complete puppet of the DS and unable to ruin anything.

What is being discussed in this thread is a DS insurrection where unelected bureaucrats are running the country and the battle is over who runs the country, the DS or the American voter.

The deep state in this thread isn’t from the American deepstate, it’s from the Russian deepstate that does things like create doctored photos to pass around.

1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273