No, the earth is not flat

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Dino246

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All this conspiracy claptrap seems to provide a convenient sidestep from dealing with the observable phenomena.
 

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All this conspiracy claptrap seems to provide a convenient sidestep from dealing with the observable phenomena.
Nope, it's one facet of the whole.

There's the Biblical record concerning the Earth and its nature.
There's the deceptions of the Establishment concerning the Earth.
There's the science. Problematic since much of it is COMING from the lying establishment.
 
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Flat Earth vs Sphere Earth vs. The End of the Earth! Maybe the Earth is flat. Or maybe it is a sphere. But I can tell you for certainty that A Sword Cometh for this Earth and God will turn this Earth upside down and wipe it like a dish and at the glory of the Revelation of Father's face even on fire the heavens will all vanish away. Praise Jesus this earth and these heavens above will become obsolete and irrelevant, and we will know the New Earth and New Heaven because we will be there when they are created by God Almighty, praise Jesus he wins the debate!
 

Dino246

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Nope, it's one facet of the whole.

There's the Biblical record concerning the Earth and its nature.
There's the deceptions of the Establishment concerning the Earth.
There's the science. Problematic since much of it is COMING from the lying establishment.
There are the misinterpretations of the relevant biblical record.
There are the deceptions of fear, folly, and flawed logic.
There are the readily-observable phenomena that don’t depend on any ‘establishment’.
 

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There are the misinterpretations of the relevant biblical record.
There is no misinterpretation of the biblical record of an event whereby the sun "stood still" for a whole day - and another event whereby the sun "went backwards" ten degrees on a particular sundial on a particular day in history.

As far as I am concerned, any Earth 'model' that does not allow for the sun to "stand still" and "back up" as described in the biblical record of these two events should be rejected - as it cannot possibly be true/valid.

This one biblical truth alone may be used to "shoot down" any Earth 'model' that does not corroborate the biblical account of these two events.

The Bible says these events actually happened.

If you are going to believe the Bible, then you must reject any Earth 'model' that does not allow for these events to have occurred exactly as the Bible describes them.

It really is that simple.
 

Dino246

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There is no misinterpretation of the biblical record of an event whereby the sun "stood still" for a whole day - and another event whereby the sun "went backwards" ten degrees on a particular sundial on a particular day in history.

As far as I am concerned, any Earth 'model' that does not allow for the sun to "stand still" and "back up" as described in the biblical record of these two events should be rejected - as it cannot possibly be true/valid.

This one biblical truth alone may be used to "shoot down" any Earth 'model' that does not corroborate the biblical account of these two events.

The Bible says these events actually happened.

If you are going to believe the Bible, then you must reject any Earth 'model' that does not allow for these events to have occurred exactly as the Bible describes them.

It really is that simple.
Given that the events recorded in Scripture were miraculous, the model of the earth's shape need not allow for them.

In other words, those particular passages are irrelevant to this debate.
 

Dino246

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Flat Earth vs Sphere Earth vs. The End of the Earth! Maybe the Earth is flat. Or maybe it is a sphere. But I can tell you for certainty that A Sword Cometh for this Earth and God will turn this Earth upside down and wipe it like a dish and at the glory of the Revelation of Father's face even on fire the heavens will all vanish away. Praise Jesus this earth and these heavens above will become obsolete and irrelevant, and we will know the New Earth and New Heaven because we will be there when they are created by God Almighty, praise Jesus he wins the debate!
It appears to me that you are attempting to shut down this discussion and get people to focus on a different topic.

Two comments to that: firstly, I would encourage you to read Josephus' account of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD; and secondly, I would encourage you to start your own thread in an appropriate forum and not attempt to hijack other threads by injecting the topic that happens to interest you.

Otherwise, welcome to CC. :)
 

Dino246

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There is no misinterpretation of the biblical record of an event whereby the sun "stood still" for a whole day - and another event whereby the sun "went backwards" ten degrees on a particular sundial on a particular day in history.

As far as I am concerned, any Earth 'model' that does not allow for the sun to "stand still" and "back up" as described in the biblical record of these two events should be rejected - as it cannot possibly be true/valid.

This one biblical truth alone may be used to "shoot down" any Earth 'model' that does not corroborate the biblical account of these two events.

The Bible says these events actually happened.

If you are going to believe the Bible, then you must reject any Earth 'model' that does not allow for these events to have occurred exactly as the Bible describes them.

It really is that simple.
Since you disagree with my assessment, please either explain how the globe-earth model disallows the miracles as described in Scripture, or point me to where you have already provided that explanation.
 

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Since you disagree with my assessment, please either explain how the globe-earth model disallows the miracles as described in Scripture, or point me to where you have already provided that explanation.
Stop trying to hide behind the word 'miracle' and explain how the globe-earth model allows for the "stand still" and "back up" events referred to earlier.
 

Dino246

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Stop trying to hide behind the word 'miracle' and explain how the globe-earth model allows for the "stand still" and "back up" events referred to earlier.
Um, no; that's a burden of proof reversal. You claim it doesn't; you back up your assertion first.
 

GaryA

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Um, no; that's a burden of proof reversal. You claim it doesn't; you back up your assertion first.
You are the one who "reversed it"...

I said that - in my opinion ('As far as I am concerned') - any Earth 'model' that does not allow for the "stand still" and "back up" events recorded in scripture - cannot possibly be true/valid.

The explanation - and the 'proof' - rests on any / each / every Earth 'model'.

The Flat Earth model "passes with flying colors"; however, I am still waiting for an explanation for how the "stand still" and "back up" events fit into the Ball Earth model.
 

GaryA

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With regard to "burden of proof" - read the thread title carefully and then consider what claim has been made and where the "burden of proof" lies... ;)
 

Dino246

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You are the one who "reversed it"...

I said that - in my opinion ('As far as I am concerned') - any Earth 'model' that does not allow for the "stand still" and "back up" events recorded in scripture - cannot possibly be true/valid.

The explanation - and the 'proof' - rests on any / each / every Earth 'model'.

The Flat Earth model "passes with flying colors"; however, I am still waiting for an explanation for how the "stand still" and "back up" events fit into the Ball Earth model.
Your opinion is an assertion. I don't see any problem with the described events occurring on a ball earth; you do. Either the burden rests on you to explain your position, or we are equally not obligated to explain.
 

GaryA

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I don't see any problem with the described events occurring on a ball earth; you do.
Then perhaps you could explain - with Ball Earth physics - how those events occurred...?

How did the sun "stand still" and "back up" without stopping or reversing the earth's rotation?