Pakistan victim was also a victim at Sandy Hooks

[Drett]

Interesting that a victim at Sandy Hooks is also a victim in Pakistan.

Look 8 seconds into the BBC report. A picture of Noah in Pakistan.

BBC News - Boxer Amir Khan: 'Pakistan's pupils must stay strong'

 

[Desdichado]

That's definitely him. Good eye.

 

[Drett]

It was not my eye.

 

[G4JC]

inb4 they delete the video. Thanks for sharing - this is priceless:

 

[wisebeardman]

well what do we have here....

 

[ThomistColin]

OH WOW...Someone who looks like someone else! Guys come on. Let tragedies be tragedies. The way you guys make things sound its as if Hurricane Katrina was actually just a thunderstorm that was blown out of proportion to trick the Americans.

 

[wisebeardman]

OH WOW...Someone who looks like someone else! Guys come on. Let tragedies be tragedies. The way you guys make things sound its as if Hurricane Katrina was actually just a thunderstorm that was blown out of proportion to trick the Americans.

wat..........

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

someone in pakistan just made a poster with images grabbed from the internet...

this isn't the first time that has happened...


conspiracy theorists...proving absolutely nothing since 2001!

 

[djness]

I find the reasoning here highly likely that the boys face was part of a collage of children killed in school.

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I have not subscribed to any of the idiocy of the Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists, but this one is genuinely bizarre.

Noah Pozner. There is a photo, in a series of related photos showing him in the same clothing, posted on his "Official Facebook Page." It is definitely the same child shown over and over again in other photos on the page.

The same exact photo appears in multiple sources related to the Peshawar, Pakistan school massacre, allegedly depicting a victim of the massacre. It is unmistakably, undeniably the same exact photo.

Origins: On 16 December 2014, 145 people were killed in an ambush attack on Army Public School in Peshawar, Pakistan. Among the victims were 132 children ranging in age from eight to eighteen, and the tragedy was reported upon widely across the world.

In late December 2014, a curious photograph ostensibly snapped after the Peshawar massacre began to circulate. In the picture (captioned, above), [TABLE]
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a woman standing vigil for the victims of the 2014 attack appeared to be holding an image of a small, smiling boy. The image was instantly recognizable to many as the well known face of Noah Pozner, 6, a victim of the December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.

Twenty children and six teachers were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in December 2012 during the course of an event that (like the tragedy in Peshawar) deeply upset people across the world. In the aftermath of the 2012 massacre, several conspiracy theories emerged either claiming the murders did not occur in the way they were reported, or the event was wholly fabricated as a "false flag" attack. Initially the conspiracies orbited a larger concern that strict gun control laws would be introduced, spurred by the widespread grief that ensued from Sandy Hook. Even when the predictions of a gun grab did not come to pass, the conspiracy theories inspired by the fear of it failed to abate.

When the above-displayed image began to circulate, many of what have come to be known as "Sandy Hook truthers" believed it was further evidence a nefarious conspiracy of unexplained origins was at work. Why else would a woman in Pakistan be displaying a picture of Noah Pozner at a vigil for slain Pakistani students who were killed two years after he was?

One particularly callous iteration of the claim approached the quandary as if individuals with eyes and the ability to process visual information could not see for themselves the identical picture was used by the woman in Pakistan:Pakistan Taliban boy is identical to Facebook Noah Pozner — same slightly tilted head, same smile, same jacket collar, and IDENTICAL button hole! (see yellow arrows)

Noah's father, Lenny Pozner, has been harassing and bullying bloggers and YouTubers, leading YouTube to repeatedly take down videos about the Sandy Hook hoax because Lenny claims "copyright violation."

Lenny is also one of the 10 plaintiffs in a negligence and wrongful death lawsuit against the manufacturer, distributor and seller of the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle that Lanza allegedly used in the Sandy Hook school shooting.

I hope the defendants ask Lenny Pozner how his son, Noah, managed the impossible feat of being killed twice — the first time on Dec. 14, 2012 in Newtown Connecticut; the second time two years two days later on Dec. 16, 2014, halfway across the world in Peshawar, Pakistan. [Sarc]
Another recitation of the claim examined whether conspiracy adherents were being taunted via the use of Pozner's image:Can the photo's misuse simply be brushed off as another bumbling Google image search mistake? Is it be willful subterfuge aimed at poking fun at those who question the validity of the Sandy Hook event?
A number of explanations might apply to this puzzling photograph. The first is that an image of Pozner was mistakenly included in the vigil by someone who turned up his picture while performing an online search using a term such as "December school massacre" to find photos of those killed in Peshawar and and did not recognize his face (because he had dark hair and facial features not unlike those of many of the victims in Peshawar). Another is that his image was deliberately included by mourners as an homage in order to publicly link multiple incidents of young, innocent victims' losing their lives in senseless school shootings. A third is that a massive worldwide cabal colluded to perpetrate or falsify the murders of more than 150 students and teachers collectively spanning the globe from Connecticut to Pakistan, and the puppeteers of this conspiracy were so inept that they failed the basic task of obtaining novel images to assign to each of the victims of the violent acts.

In fact, the second explanation offered above appears to be what happened: On the day of the Peshawar incident a Pakistani woman created a collage of photographs of young people killed in school shootings and posted it to Facebook with the caption "They Went to School and Never Came Back." Because the Peshawar shooting occurred very close to the anniversary of the Sandy Hook massacre, she included a picture of a child from the latter event, namely Noah Pozner, along with pictures of Peshawar victims:

That collage was then printed out and cut up into the individual photographs displayed by mourners at a vigil for the Peshawar victims (as evidenced by the thick black borders underneath some of the victims' pictures, such as Noah's, showing where the original collage had been captioned):

Last updated: 8 January 2014

Read more at snopes.com: Sandy Hook Victim Spotted Among Peshawar School Dead?

 

[Percepi]

I was about to post the same thing, but you beat me to it, djness.

 

[djness]

I was about to post the same thing, but you beat me to it, djness.

Yay for reasonable people!

 

[Drett]

There is increasing evidence things are not what they seem. What impedes the truth coming out are the ones that either by monetary gain, or worse, just plain blind faith, will back what the government or media are telling them.

Governments Plant Propaganda in Social Media

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

There is increasing evidence things are not what they seem. What impedes the truth coming out are the ones that either by monetary gain, or worse, just plain blind faith, will back what the government or media are telling them.

Governments Plant Propaganda in Social Media

this is the umpteenth time that you have insinuated that people on this site who disagree with your delusions are being paid or working for the government...

and this is the umpteenth time that you haven't bothered to prove your allegations...it has become increasingly obvious that you can't...and that you are just throwing accusations around...

either -prove it- or take your pathological lying elsewhere...it is getting really old here...

 

[Drett]

this is the umpteenth time that you have insinuated that people on this site who disagree with your delusions are being paid or working for the government...

and this is the umpteenth time that you haven't bothered to prove your allegations...it has become increasingly obvious that you can't...and that you are just throwing accusations around...

either -prove it- or take your pathological lying elsewhere...it is getting really old here...

Providing a BBC video of a Sandy Hooks victim also in Pakistan was provided to generate debate. You just flatly denied it with no evidence. That is fine.

Just to clarify on the umpteenth thing. It is actually the third time I stated this. One time for critical thinkers theories. For critical thinking theories, I said they are either paid or blind faith when it comes to arguing against so much evidence with no evidence. The the other two times was for the illogical, cold hearted responses to the plight of the Palestinian people.

I noticed you tend to call people liars that disagree with you. You did the same thing to Zone before she left.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Providing a BBC video of a Sandy Hooks victim also in Pakistan was provided to generate debate. You just flatly denied it with no evidence. That is fine.

Just to clarify on the umpteenth thing. It is actually the third time I stated this. One time for critical thinkers theories. For critical thinking theories, I said they are either paid or blind faith when it comes to arguing against so much evidence with no evidence. The the other two times was for the illogical, cold hearted responses to the plight of the Palestinian people.

I noticed you tend to call people liars that disagree with you. You did the same thing to Zone before she left.

first of all your video does -not- show 'a sandy hook victim also in pakistan'...all it shows is that someone in pakistan had a picture of this child...a picture which is widely available on the internet...there is a -huge- difference...

also i did not just 'flatly deny it'...what i did was provide a much more sensible explanation than any conspiracy theorist has offered...it is not difficult to imagine someone in pakistan looking for pictures for a poster and doing an internet search for something like 'school shooting victims' and getting search results that included victims of other school shootings such as the sandy hook shooting...and then mistakenly including one of those photos on their poster...

i even posted an example where something like this happened before...where a bin laden supporter absentmindedly included a photo from an internet joke of osama bin laden sitting next to a sesame street character in a poster which they obviously put together from images they found online...

and all of this without having to invoke a complicated and increasingly self contradictory theory of a global conspiracy that controls everything without being noticed except by loonytunes on the internet who are never silenced by this cabal that silences all dissenters with impunity...

the insinuation that people who disagree with conspiracy delusions are being paid by governments has been thrown around a lot on this forum...by you and by others...and now hypocritically so because you yourself have provided -no evidence- that it is happening here on this site...

for that matter those who reject conspiracy delusions are not arguing against 'so much evidence'...we argue against some of the sloppiest 'research' ever done and some of the most convoluted and self contradictory 'reasoning' ever attempted...

and i don't call people liars for disagreeing with me...i call people liars for insistently promoting things that they know are untrue or that they persist in refusing to support with evidence...that would include you and your 'paid government plants' accusation...

 

[Drett]

first of all your video does -not- show 'a sandy hook victim also in pakistan'...all it shows is that someone in pakistan had a picture of this child...a picture which is widely available on the internet...there is a -huge- difference...

also i did not just 'flatly deny it'...what i did was provide a much more sensible explanation than any conspiracy theorist has offered...it is not difficult to imagine someone in pakistan looking for pictures for a poster and doing an internet search for something like 'school shooting victims' and getting search results that included victims of other school shootings such as the sandy hook shooting...and then mistakenly including one of those photos on their poster...

i even posted an example where something like this happened before...where a bin laden supporter absentmindedly included a photo from an internet joke of osama bin laden sitting next to a sesame street character in a poster which they obviously put together from images they found online...

and all of this without having to invoke a complicated and increasingly self contradictory theory of a global conspiracy that controls everything without being noticed except by loonytunes on the internet who are never silenced by this cabal that silences all dissenters with impunity...

the insinuation that people who disagree with conspiracy delusions are being paid by governments has been thrown around a lot on this forum...by you and by others...and now hypocritically so because you yourself have provided -no evidence- that it is happening here on this site...

for that matter those who reject conspiracy delusions are not arguing against 'so much evidence'...we argue against some of the sloppiest 'research' ever done and some of the most convoluted and self contradictory 'reasoning' ever attempted...

and i don't call people liars for disagreeing with me...i call people liars for insistently promoting things that they know are untrue or that they persist in refusing to support with evidence...that would include you and your 'paid government plants' accusation...

I guess we agree to disagree again.

 

[gkroo]

That just shows what length people will go to defunct a government they think is corrupt.

 

[Elysian]

Interesting that a victim at Sandy Hooks is also a victim in Pakistan.

Look 8 seconds into the BBC report. A picture of Noah in Pakistan.

BBC News - Boxer Amir Khan: 'Pakistan's pupils must stay strong'[/QUO


I though Sandy hook was exposed as a movie scene a while back when condolence emails showed up dated one day before the incident even occurred ,weren't they all actors or something just making a movie?I definitely thought that was mainstream knowledge by now,email don't lie.

 

[jaybird88]

the pic could be debated but there are several things about sandy hook that dont add up.
i think its strange that when someone questions the status quo they are attacked or if they speak the truth they are labeled conspiracy theorist to distract others from the truth. 40 yrs ago a bunch of people questioned the JFK assassination, they were attacked, mocked and laughed at.
im a conspiracy theorist, why, because our government and mainstream news media has proved time and time again that they lie about everything. i think you would have to be on crack to believe them.

 

[ky5954]

also, an eyewitness at Sandy Hook was also interviewed at the Boston Bombing