Personality and Conspiracy Theories: What Your Beliefs Say About You

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KennethC

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A simple Google search debunks every conspiracy theory about 9 11
Not really !!!....................

I have done this research in the past and every single video or story that I came across that tried to debunk 911 conspiracy had holes in them.
 

un2him

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A simple Google search debunks everyone conspiracy theory about 9 11
Funny they found 9 of the suspected hijackers still alive and well after. They also found that tw of the planes were still being used
 
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A simple Google search debunks every conspiracy theory about 9 11
Did you Google the Great Rite Ritual at the Pentagon, or the two pillars of Jachin and Boaz or how about the Eye of Horus at the 911 memorial?

[video]https://youtu.be/w1pzJUMh35E[/video]
 
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I deleted this post as I found the answer.
 
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jaybird88

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Did you Google the Great Rite Ritual at the Pentagon, or the two pillars of Jachin and Boaz or how about the Eye of Horus at the 911 memorial?

[video]https://youtu.be/w1pzJUMh35E[/video]
no but i will now

where is our ole buddy sinnerman?
 

Dude653

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Conspiracy theories tend to be distrustful of others, late and I have a strong disdain for authority and they tend to have a victim mentality. Everything is someone else's fault. Everyone is out to get them.
 
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no but i will now

where is our ole buddy sinnerman?
Not your buddy. I'm sane and have normal hobbies and interests that occupy my time, leaving me little time left over to spend seeking out bizarre conspiracy theories to obsess about. What is todays Conspiracy Du Jour? The 911 commercial planes were actually military tanker drones sent to hit specific floors of the buildings to murder specific people to cover up a high-level Ponzi scheme that involved President H.W. Bush? Sure, why not. Next week you'll pour over another 100 theories and decide it was the Jews that did it.

I've met a few mentally impaired people in my life and most are simpletons who present no danger to the general public. Let them wander around their basements wearing tin foil hats babbling about messages being sent to their brain on microwaves. If they choose to buy computers and share their mental illness with others, what is the harm. I'm not here to fix you. You don't want to be fixed. So go for it. But be careful. You are uncovering the worlds biggest conspiracies and those black helicopters outside your home are full of CIA agents coming to get you and take you away to where they stashed all those commercial passengers from the 911 planes.
 

blue_ladybug

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But be careful. You are uncovering the worlds biggest conspiracies and those black helicopters outside your home are full of CIA agents coming to get you and take you away to where they stashed all those commercial passengers from the 911 planes.
So you DO admit that there ARE conspiracies!! I knew you would see the truth sooner or later.. bwahahaha .. You act so self-righteous and pompous, but deep down you know those conspiracies are true.. You're so transparent. LOL!! :eek:
 

Dude653

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My question to the conspiracy theorists is that if you believe that your own government would murder its own citizens then why are you still here?
 
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My question to the conspiracy theorists is that if you believe that your own government would murder its own citizens then why are you still here?
[26] For then he ought to have suffered often from the beginning of the world: but now once at the end of ages, he hath appeared for the destruction of sin, by the sacrifice of himself. [27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment: [28] So also Christ was offered once to exhaust the sins of many; the second time he shall appear without sin to them that expect him unto salvation.
 

Dude653

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If you believe your government is murdering its own citizens then your conviction should be strong enough to leave the country and not pay taxes to a government that is doing this
 
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If you believe your government is murdering its own citizens then your conviction should be strong enough to leave the country and not pay taxes to a government that is doing this
Here's the problem though, it's every government. Governments are simply Mafias on a much larger scale and you can move all you want. You're just going to run into the same corruption and evil draped in a different nation's flag. That's why the whole "if you don't like your country then leave" phrase is so illogical. You shouldn't go play at another bully's playground just because you don't like your bully. The problem is THE BULLY, not you.

Taxation is theft, plain and simple. It's theft when Mafias/gangs instill "taxes" on local businesses to be left alone and it's theft when a government does it.
 
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Dude653

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Taxes are necessary. Nothing is free. Do you like having things like roads and bridges, fire departments., police. And I already know you're going to say that we don't need the police but we all know it's a dangerous job and no one's going to do it for free
 
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Taxes are necessary. Nothing is free. Do you like having things like roads and bridges, fire departments., police. And I already know you're going to say that we don't need the police but we all know it's a dangerous job and no one's going to do it for free
Taxes are most certainly not necessary. Roads are built by construction companies, not the government. Simple crowdfunding fixes this. The people in your city want better roads? They can collectively, VOLUNTARILY pay for it. They don't need to be stolen from. Fire departments can either be voluntary in an anarchist society (just like they are in the state of Alaska and countries other than the U.S), or turned into businesses (specifically only under an anarcho-capitalist society of course lol)

And as for police... [video=youtube;ZgMCw1yjPgA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgMCw1yjPgA[/video]
 
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Funny they found 9 of the suspected hijackers still alive and well after. They also found that tw of the planes were still being used
The standard procedure for conspiracy kooks is to write such nonsense as what you posted. They found? Who is they and what did they find, exactly? Conspiracy kooks don't like facts and don't like it when they are pressed to post of evidence and links.

I'll help you out.

Some conspiracy kooks found people with the same Islamic names as some of the terrorists that dies when the planes they hijacked crashed. If John Smith was one of the hijackers, how hard would it be to find a few hundred other guys named John Smith who are alive and well and then suggest the government is lying about the identities of the alleged terrorists. I suppose there may have been some confusion at first, when they were trying to get the exact spelling of the names of the terrorists. One wrong letter is all it takes to fuel a kook.

Two of the planes were still being used? Really. I'm guessing you got sucked into believing that military drones hit the WTC buildings 1 and 2. Right. Sure. Those weren't passenger planes? The passengers didn't really phone loved ones during the flight? The passengers magically disappeared? The passenger plane magically disappeared? All that it takes for a conspiracy to get started is for a news anchor to report a flight number that is not accurate. Then suddenly, they are part of the vast cover-up. What is wrong with some people's brains that they deny such obvious evidence and embrace a totally preposterous conspiracy with no basis in fact? Don't answer. It will only be some response that includes mass brain washing by the U.S. government.

How does it work when you try to witness to the unsaved? Do you tell them about your crazy conspiracies before or after you tell them Jesus is the Savior? And after you tell them about your conspiracies, do they then tell you that Jesus was never crucified, and that is was a government cover-up and conspiracy, done to challenge Roman authority. They'll play the same silly game you have become so good at playing.
 

un2him

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Sinnerman or whatever your real name and agenda is. You can bury your head in the sand if you wish but don't try to explain something you clearly have no understanding of.

As for the name calling and innuendos suggesting mental illness this is just child's play. An has been a ploy used for many years so most are aware of this tactic.

Have you ever read The Church Committee's report? If you had you would see there is very little our government can't do or achieve for their own purposes. Here is a short list of a few operations and the out come.

The following is a partial list of United States Covert action abroad to impose or restore favorable political conditions, 1946-1983. The list was prepared by Tom Gervasi of the Center for Military Research and Analysis in 1984, and it was compiled using information available in the public domain.
1946: GREECE. Restore monarch after overthrow of Metaxas government. Successful.
1946-1955: WEST GERMANY. Average of $6 million annually to support former Nazi intelligence network of General Reinhard Gehlen. Successful.
1948-1968: ITALY. Average of $30 million annually in payments to political and labor leaders to supportanti- Communist candidates in Italian elections. Successful.
1949: GREECE. Military assistance to anti-Communist forces in Greek civil war. Successful.
1949-1953: UKRAINE. Organize and support a Ukrainian resistance movement. Unsuccessful.
1949-1961: BURMA. Support 12,000 Nationalist China troops in Burma under General Li Mi as an incursion force into People’s Republic of China. Unsuccessful.
1950-1952: POLAND. Financial and military assistance for Polish Freedom and Independence Movement. Unsuccessful.
1950: ALBANIA. Overthrow government of Enver Hoxha. Unsuccessful.
1951-1954: CHINA. Airdrop guerilla teams into People’s Republic of China. Unsuccessful.
1953: IRAN. Overthrow Mossadegh government and install Shah Zahedi. Cost: $10 million. Successful.
1953: PHILLIPINES. Assassination and propaganda campaign to overcome Huk resistance and install government of Ramon Magsaysay. Successful.
1953: COSTA RICA. Overthrow government of Jose Figueres. Unsuccessful.
1954: SOUTH VIETNAM. Install government of Ngo Dinh Diem. Successful.
1954: WEST GERMANY. Arrange abduction and discreditation of West German intelligence chief Otto John, and replace with Reinhard Gehlen. Successful.
1954: GUATEMALA. Overthrow government of Jacobo Arbenz Guzman and replace with Carlos Castillo Armas. Successful.
1955: CHINA. Assassinate Zhou Enlai en route to Bandung Conference. Unsuccessful.
1956: HUNGARY. Financial and military assistance to organize and support a Hungarian resistance movement, and broad propaganda campaign to encourage it. Unsuccessful.
1956: CUBA. Establish anti-Communist police force, Buro de Represion Actividades Communistas (BRAC) under Batista regime. Successful.
1956: EGYPT. Overthrow Nasser government. Unsuccessful.
1956: SYRIA. Overthrow Ghazzi government. Aborted by Israeli invasion of Egypt.
1956-1957: JORDAN. Average of $750,000 annually in personal payments to King Hussein. According to United States government, payments ceased when disclosed in 1976.
1957: LEBANON. Financial assistance for the election of pro-American candidates to Lebanese Parliament. Successful.
1958: INDONESIA. Financial and military assistance, including B-26 bombers, for rebel forces attempting to overthrow Sukarno government. Unsuccessful.
1958-1961: TIBET. Infiltrate Tibetan guerrillas trained in United States to fight Chinese Communists. Unsuccessful.
1959: CAMBODIA. Assassinate Prince Norodum Shianouk. Unsuccessful.
1960: GUATEMALA. Military assistance, including the use of B-26 bombers for government of Miguel Ydigoras Fuentes to defeat rebel forces. Successful.
1960: ANGOLA. Financial and military assistance to rebel forces of Holden Roberto. Inconclusive.
1960: LAOS. Military assistance, including 400 United States Special Forces troops, to deny the Plain of Jars bad Mekong Basin to Pathet Lao. Inconclusive.
1961-1965: LAOS. Average of $300 million annually to recruit and maintain L’Armee Clandestine of 35,000 Hmong and Meo tribesmen and 17,000 Thai mercenaries in support of government of Phoumi Nosavan to resist Pathet Lao. Successful.
1961-1963: CUBA. Assassinate Fidel Castro. Six attempts in this period. Unsuccessful.
1961: CUBA. Train and support invasion force of Cuban exiles to overthrow Castro government, and assist their invasion at the Bay of Pigs. Cost: $62 million. Unsuccessful.
1961: ECUADOR. Overthrow government of Hose Velasco Ibarra. Successful.
1961: CONGO. Precipitate conditions leading to assassination of Patrice Lumumba. Successful.
1961: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Precipitate conditions leading to assassination of Rafael Trujillo. Successful.
1961-1966: CUBA. Broad sabotage program, including terrorist attacks on coastal targets and bacteriological warfare, in effort to weaken Castro government. Unsuccessful.
1962: THAILAND. Brigade of 5,000 United States Marines to resist threat to Thai government from Pathet Lao. Successful.
1962-1964: BRITISH GUIANA. Organize labor strikes and riots to overthrow government of Cheddi Jagan. Successful.
1962-1964: BRAZIL. Organize campaign of labor strike and propaganda to overthrow government of Joao Goulart. Successful.
1963: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Overthrow government of Juan Bosch in military coup. Successful.
1963: SOUTH VIETNAM. Precipitate conditions leading to assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem. Successful.
1963: ECUADOR. Overthrow government of Carlos Julio Arosemena. Successful.
1963-1984: EL SALVADOR. Organize ORDEN and ANSESAL domestic intelligence networks under direction of General Jose Alberto Medrano and Colonel Nicolas Carranza, and provide intelligence support and training in surveillance, interrogation and assassination techniques. Successful.
1963-1973: IRAQ. Financial and military assistance for Freedom Party of Mulla Mustafa al Barzani in effort to establish independent Kurdistan. Unsuccessful.
1964: CHILE. $20 million in assistance for Eduardo Frei to defeat Salvador Allende in Chilean elections.Successful.
1964: BRAZIL, GUATEMALA, URUGUAY, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Provide training in assassination and interrogation techniques for police and intelligence personnel. Inconclusive.
1964: CONGO. Financial and military assistance, including B-26 and T-28 aircraft, and American and exiled Cuban pilots, for Joseph Mobutu and Cyril Adoula, and later for Moise Tshombe in Katanga, to defeat rebel forces loyal to Lumumba. Successful.
1964-1967: SOUTH VIETNAM. Phoenix Program to eliminate Viet Cong political infrastructure through more than 20,000 assassinations. Infiltrated by Viet Cong and only partially successful.
1964-1971: NORTH VIETNAM. Sabotage and ambush missions under Operations Plan 34A by United States Special Forces and Nung tribesmen. Inconclusive.
1965-1971: LAOS. Under Operations Shining Brass and Prairie Fire, sabotage and ambush missions by United States Special Forces personnel and Nung and Meo tribesmen under General Bang Pao. Inconclusive.
1965: THAILAND. Recruit 17,000 mercenaries to support Laotian government of Phoumi Nosavan resisting Pathet Lao. Successful.
1965: PERU. Provide training in assassination and interrogation techniques for Peruvian police and intelligence personnel, similar to training given in Uruguay, Brazil and Dominican Republic, in effort to defeat resistance movement. Unsuccessful.
1965: INDONESIA. Organize campaign of propaganda to overthrow Sukarno government, and precipitate conditions leading to massacre of more than 500,000 members of Indonesian Communist Party, in order to eliminate opposition to new Suharto government. Successful.
1967: BOLIVIA. Assist government in capture of Ernesto Che Guevara. Successful.
1967: GREECE. Overthrow government of George Papandreou and install military government of Colonel George Papadopolous after abdication of King Constantine. Successful.
1967-1971: CAMBODIA. Under Projects Daniel Boone and Salem House, sabotage and ambush missions by United States Special Forces personnel and Meo tribesmen. Inconclusive.
1969-1970: CAMBODIA. Bombing campaign to crush Viet Cong sanctuaries in Cambodia. Unsuccessful.
1970: CAMBODIA. Overthrow government of Prince Norodom Sihanouk. Successful.
1970-1973: CHILE. Campaign of assassinations, propaganda, labor strikes and demonstrations to overthrow government of Salvador Allende. Cost: $8,400,000. Successful.
1973-1978: AFGHANISTAN. Military and financial assistance to government of Mohammed Duad to resist rise to power of Noor Mohammed Taraki. Unsuccessful.
1975: PORTUGAL. Overthrow government of General Vasco dos Santos Goncalves. Successful.
1975: ANGOLA. Military assistance to forces of Holden Roberto and Jonas Savimbi to defeat forces of Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA) during Angolan civil war, and prevent MPLA from forming new government. Unsuccessful.
1975: AUSTRALIA. Propaganda and political pressure to force dissolution of labor government of Gough Whitlam. Successful.
1976: JAMAICA. Military coup to overthrow government of Michael Manley. Unsuccessful.
1976-1984: ANGOLA. Financial and military assistance to forces of Jonas Savimbi to harass and destabilize Neto and succeeding governments. Inconclusive.
1979: IRAN. Install military government to replace Shah and resist growth of Moslem fundamentalism. Unsuccessful.
1979-1980: JAMAICA. Financial pressure to destabilize government of Michael Manley, and campaign propaganda and demonstrations to defeat it in elections. Successful.
1979: AFGHANISTAN. Military aid to rebel forces of Zia Nezri, Zia Khan Nassry, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Sayed Ahmed Gailani and conservative mullahs to overthrow government of Hafizullah Amin. Aborted by Soviet intervention and installation of new government.
1980-1984: AFGHANISTAN. Continuing military aid to same rebel groups to harass Soviet occupation forces and challenge legitimacy of government of Babrak Karmal.
1979: SEYCHELLES. Destabilize government of France Albert Rene. Successful.
1980: GRENADA. Mercenary coup to overthrow government of Maurice Bishop. Successful.
1980: DOMINICA. Financial support to Freedom Party of Eugenia Charles to defeat Oliver Seraphim in Dominican elections. Successful.
1980: GUYANA. Assassinate opposition leader Walter Rodney to consolidate power of government of Forbes Burnham. Successful.
1980-1984: NICARAGUA. Military assistance to Adolfo Colero Portocarrero, Alfonso Robelo, Alfonso Callejas, Fernando Chamorro Rappacioli, Eden Pastora Gomez, Adrianna Guillen, Steadman Fagoth and former Somoza National Guard officers, to recruit, train and equip anti- Sandinista forces for sabotage and terrorist incursions into Nicaragua from sanctuaries in Honduras and Costa Rica, in effort to destabilize government of Daniel Ortega Saavedra.
1981: SEYCHELLES. Military coup to overthrow government of France Albert Rene. Unsuccessful.
1981-1982: MAURITIUS. Financial support to Seewoosagar Ramgoolam to bring him to power in 1982 elections. Unsuccessful.
1981-1984: LIBYA. Broad campaign of economic pressure, propaganda, military maneuvers in Egypt, Sudan and Gulf of Sidra, and organization if Libyan Liberation Front exiles to destabilize government of Muammar Qaddafi. Inconclusive.
1982: CHAD. Military assistance to Hissen Habre to overthrow government of Goukouni Oueddei. Successful.
1982: GUATEMALA. Military coup to overthrow government of Angel Anibal Guevara. Successful.
1982: BOLIVIA. Military coup to overthrow government of Celso Torrelio. Successful.
1982: JORDAN. Military assistance to equip and train two Jordanian brigades as an Arab strike force to implement United States policy objectives without Israeli assistance.
1982-1983: SURINAM. Overthrow government of Colonel Desi Bouterse. Three attempts in this period. Unsuccessful.
1984: EL SALVADOR. $1.4 million in financial support for the Presidential election campaign of Jose Napoleon Duarte. Successful.
@Copyright 1984 by the Center for Military Research and Analysis
 
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Originally Posted by un2him
Funny they found 9 of the suspected hijackers still alive and well after. They also found that tw of the planes were still being used
This is rather simple, so I'll try to say it like I'm talking to a child, so you don't get confused. Don't wander off into one of a thousand conspiracies, Stick to what you claim to be true about 911 and post actual credible evidence to support your assertion that the hijackers were found alive and the planes were still being used. We all saw the planes crash and know that nobody survived. Your claim is lunacy. The planes left an airport full of passengers. Many of the passengers used phones to contact loved ones before they died. The planes had transponders that were shut off. They had been on civilian radar and were being tracked. The plane that hit the Pentagon left behind parts of the plane and remains of the passengers and their luggage. These are what you would call evidence that proves something to be true. You failed to produce any such evidence. You simply wrote down that "they" had found 9 suspect still alive. You didn't say who they was. Was "they" your cousin Wilbur? Was "they" a kook posting on youtube from his living room? Were "they" merely saying "they" found Arabs or Muslims with similar names and tried to find simple-minded people who would accept that as being the same as finding the actual people who hijacked the flights? Who knows with you guys. You make up something every day and move on to a different conspiracy without ever providing any evidence to any our you made up conspiracies.

Make your very next post only about the two claims you made about 911. Provide proof of 9 hijackers still being alive and provide proof that two of the planes that crashed, did not crash. I'm guessing your response will be that it is not your job to prove anything or you'll say you don't feel like providing the proof, but it really does exist.