Question about The Masks

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maxwel

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So you are going to terrorize those around in your community?
What a wonderful Christian witness!
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about John.

Why would you say I'm terrorizing people?

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JohnDB

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I honestly have no idea what you're talking about John.

Why would you say I'm terrorizing people?

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If you are running around in establishments that want you to wear a mask but refuse....
You are a terrorist...just not with a gun or a bomb but instilling fear by possibly infecting them.

No different than spitting on people or urinating on people claiming to have HIV.
Read Matthew 17:27

Jesus tried NOT to deliberately offend people....the exact opposite of Antimasker behavior.
 

maxwel

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transmission.

You have ONE questionable (at best) paper saying something different from a dubious newspaper....

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John, if you're going to talk about my evidence, then you need to at least be honest:
it wasn't ONE study FROM A NEWSPAPER.
It was a collection of 78 different scientific studies from all over the world...
and it didn't come from a newspaper, it came from a PhD scientist at Oxford.

I told you those things already.
So if we're going to talk, we need to at least talk honestly.

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maxwel

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If you are running around in establishments that want you to wear a mask but refuse....You are a terrorist...
just not with a gun or a bomb but instilling fear by possibly infecting them.
I never said I would refuse to wear a mask in some establishment that asked me to.
You're accusing me of things I never said.

Your anger toward me is filling me with terror... I'm kinda feeling terrorized.
Maybe that means you're a.... I'm not even gonna say it... it's too terrible to say.


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ZNP

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I never said I would refuse to wear a mask in some establishment that asked me to.
You're accusing me of things I never said.

Your anger toward me is filling me with terror... I'm kinda feeling terrorized.
Maybe that means you're a.... I'm not even gonna say it... it's too terrible to say.


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Yep not wearing a mask in public is the same thing as spitting on people or urinating on them (Post 304). It is comments like that which have helped me to understand that it is a waste of time to even talk with some people.
 

maxwel

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Yep not wearing a mask in public is the same thing as spitting on people or urinating on them (Post 304). It is comments like that which have helped me to understand that it is a waste of time to even talk with some people.
Well, maybe the terrorism has nothing to do with disease.
Maybe taking a mask off is terrorism because of... ya know... the way i look.
: )

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ThereRoseaLamb

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So you feel powerful by terrorizing those around you...
So you say you don't read a thing a person says then answer with your own opinions and judgement calls. Got it.


And laugh about inflicting terror on those around you?
How can I be a terrorist when you have that impenetrable, life saving yet fashionable mask on your face?! Why, you should fear no one! You are protected behind a Dollar Tree mask !! Or one that Auntie May made! You are Teflon!!



Love thy neighbor as thyself? Guess for you it's a suggestion instead of a commandment.
Nah, I'm fine with my neighbors, it's just morons I have an issue with. But we all have our struggles #He's Still Workin on Me! :)
 

ZNP

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Recognizing a man of lawlessness

A traditional doctrine is that we cannot identify the man of lawlessness until after the rapture. If that were true then what is Paul talking about here:

2Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

We can identify all defilement of flesh and spirit and we can cleanse ourselves of these. If believers did this there would be no way for "the man of lawlessness" to hide from them.

2 Open your hearts to us: we wronged no man, we corrupted no man, we took advantage of no man.

What do you think lawlessness is? You wrong others, you corrupt others and you take advantage of others. Sinners think this is funny, they think it is wisdom. When you get saved and your conscience is activated you see this as sin and want to cleanse yourself from this.

The mask mandate wronged small businessmen, putting them out of business. It wronged school children who need to see faces for cognitive development, it wronged school children who wore a mask for 8 hours straight increasing respiratory illness and increasing CO2 levels in the blood.

Everything about the pandemic corrupted men. People were bribed to lie. Hospitals were bribed to say people "died with Covid" to boost the numbers. Talking heads on TV were corrupted, government officials were corrupted, health care workers were corrupted, school boards and union leaders were corrupted.

They also took advantage of people, firing people who didn't take the vaccine. It was an experimental vaccine, by law they can't mandate it if Ivermectin and HCQ are effective treatments. They lied about those and prohibited the use. They forced people to use Remdesvir which caused organ failure. They put people onto ventilators which was essentially a death sentence. They put sick people back into nursing homes to increase the number of infections and death.

5 For even when we were come into Macedonia our flesh had no relief, but we were afflicted on every side; without were fightings, within were fears.

If you questioned them about these laws you were attacked, deplatformed, ridiculed, dragged out of church or out of the business, and slandered. Meanwhile in the church many people were filled with fear, accusing others of being terrorists, or trying to kill them, etc.

We need to wash our hands and face to cleanse ourselves of all defilement of the flesh and spirit. Throw out the TV. Be very careful about what you see and what you hear. If you feared God you would not watch or listen to those things and as a result you would perfect holiness, being able to discern when you are being manipulated by evil forces.
 

JohnDB

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So you say you don't read a thing a person says then answer with your own opinions and judgement calls. Got it.




How can I be a terrorist when you have that impenetrable, life saving yet fashionable mask on your face?! Why, you should fear no one! You are protected behind a Dollar Tree mask !! Or one that Auntie May made! You are Teflon!!





Nah, I'm fine with my neighbors, it's just morons I have an issue with. But we all have our struggles #He's Still Workin on Me! :)
Phoney Christians get ignored...bye
 

Handyman62

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I'm not going to bother.

I honestly will NEVER believe that masks do not help keep a person from spreading a virus that they unknowingly are carrying.

Too much previous, often repeated scientific evidence to the contrary.

And my premise that there is no evidence or anything that anyone can say that will persuade anyone of anything ever.

I have an issue with wearing pants....and I can show and link to all kinds of studies about how wearing pants are harmful for me and the environment....but they still make me wear them in public.

And not wearing pants does not inflict terror.

So guess what?

Antimaskers are still terrorists inflicting terror and fear on all those around them.
Mask filter out viruses as well as your underwear/pants filters out flatulence. :poop:
 

PennEd

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Recognizing a man of lawlessness

A traditional doctrine is that we cannot identify the man of lawlessness until after the rapture. If that were true then what is Paul talking about here:

2Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

We can identify all defilement of flesh and spirit and we can cleanse ourselves of these. If believers did this there would be no way for "the man of lawlessness" to hide from them.

2 Open your hearts to us: we wronged no man, we corrupted no man, we took advantage of no man.

What do you think lawlessness is? You wrong others, you corrupt others and you take advantage of others. Sinners think this is funny, they think it is wisdom. When you get saved and your conscience is activated you see this as sin and want to cleanse yourself from this.

The mask mandate wronged small businessmen, putting them out of business. It wronged school children who need to see faces for cognitive development, it wronged school children who wore a mask for 8 hours straight increasing respiratory illness and increasing CO2 levels in the blood.

Everything about the pandemic corrupted men. People were bribed to lie. Hospitals were bribed to say people "died with Covid" to boost the numbers. Talking heads on TV were corrupted, government officials were corrupted, health care workers were corrupted, school boards and union leaders were corrupted.

They also took advantage of people, firing people who didn't take the vaccine. It was an experimental vaccine, by law they can't mandate it if Ivermectin and HCQ are effective treatments. They lied about those and prohibited the use. They forced people to use Remdesvir which caused organ failure. They put people onto ventilators which was essentially a death sentence. They put sick people back into nursing homes to increase the number of infections and death.

5 For even when we were come into Macedonia our flesh had no relief, but we were afflicted on every side; without were fightings, within were fears.

If you questioned them about these laws you were attacked, deplatformed, ridiculed, dragged out of church or out of the business, and slandered. Meanwhile in the church many people were filled with fear, accusing others of being terrorists, or trying to kill them, etc.

We need to wash our hands and face to cleanse ourselves of all defilement of the flesh and spirit. Throw out the TV. Be very careful about what you see and what you hear. If you feared God you would not watch or listen to those things and as a result you would perfect holiness, being able to discern when you are being manipulated by evil forces.

My son, who sometimes leads our Bible study group, made an excellent point about the times we live in, and how close we must be to the AC taking over.

There is a difference between "Lawbreaking" and "Lawlessness".

Even the criminal, or lawbreaker recognizes that there is a law, and there are consequences for breaking that law. Even if they don't care, they still recognize it, so they hide their lawbreaking to avoid those consequences.

But what we are seeing today, that seems to be getting worse by the day, is actual "Lawlessness'. No recognition that the evil and crimes committed are a law at all!

Just one example, is the actual porn in schools given to even young children, or public displays of perversions, even in front of little kids, like drag shows or "pride" parades.

In the not too distant past, these perpetrators would have been immediately arrested and jailed. Now, there is no recognition by any official authorities that crimes are being committed. In fact, these entities actually PROMOTE, and protect such perverse crimes!

I think this is what is meant by the man of lawlessness. We are VERY close to his appearance on the global stage.
 

ZNP

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My son, who sometimes leads our Bible study group, made an excellent point about the times we live in, and how close we must be to the AC taking over.

There is a difference between "Lawbreaking" and "Lawlessness".

Even the criminal, or lawbreaker recognizes that there is a law, and there are consequences for breaking that law. Even if they don't care, they still recognize it, so they hide their lawbreaking to avoid those consequences.

But what we are seeing today, that seems to be getting worse by the day, is actual "Lawlessness'. No recognition that the evil and crimes committed are a law at all!

Just one example, is the actual porn in schools given to even young children, or public displays of perversions, even in front of little kids, like drag shows or "pride" parades.

In the not too distant past, these perpetrators would have been immediately arrested and jailed. Now, there is no recognition by any official authorities that crimes are being committed. In fact, these entities actually PROMOTE, and protect such perverse crimes!

I think this is what is meant by the man of lawlessness. We are VERY close to his appearance on the global stage.
Yesterday we learned that at the same time they are strengthening the covenant with the many at the UN for seven years during the Feast of Trumpets, that at the same time they have decided to slip in a peace agreement with Israel brokered by Saudi Arabia where Israel trades land for peace so they can build their temple.

Yesterday I finally understood the significance of "strengthening the covenant". It is a very deceitful way of gaining control. They made this covenant in 2015, everyone signed it because they didn't want to be left out and because if others kept it then that would help them. But no one intended to take it seriously. Satan understood that. Now they come back and say the only way we can guarantee compliance is if we have control over what you can buy or sell with a digital currency. We'll just do this "temporarily" for seven years until we can "flatten the curve".
 

Cameron143

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My son, who sometimes leads our Bible study group, made an excellent point about the times we live in, and how close we must be to the AC taking over.

There is a difference between "Lawbreaking" and "Lawlessness".

Even the criminal, or lawbreaker recognizes that there is a law, and there are consequences for breaking that law. Even if they don't care, they still recognize it, so they hide their lawbreaking to avoid those consequences.

But what we are seeing today, that seems to be getting worse by the day, is actual "Lawlessness'. No recognition that the evil and crimes committed are a law at all!

Just one example, is the actual porn in schools given to even young children, or public displays of perversions, even in front of little kids, like drag shows or "pride" parades.

In the not too distant past, these perpetrators would have been immediately arrested and jailed. Now, there is no recognition by any official authorities that crimes are being committed. In fact, these entities actually PROMOTE, and protect such perverse crimes!

I think this is what is meant by the man of lawlessness. We are VERY close to his appearance on the global stage.
This is an excellent distinction.