September 11th, 2001

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I heard that the twin towers owners were going bankrupt due to vacancies. '
Is this true?
 

Socreta93

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It was an inside job. Hope more people can open their eyes to it.
 

Socreta93

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"Commits suicide" yeah sure, he said he heard an explosion which contradicted the official story.

[video=youtube;yEuzU3LMgCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEuzU3LMgCA[/video]
 

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A taste of what is to come?
A foretelling of calamities of the last days ...

15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress,
a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess,
a day of clouds and thick darkness,
16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities,
and against the high towers.
17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men,
because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out
as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
Zephaniah 1:
 
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jaybird88

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I don't see why/how the US government would have any reason to destroy the Pentagon and kill all the important military personnel inside. The Pentagon is THE national headquarters for the US military. It would be like someone stabbing themselves in the heart.
why did Nero burn down his own palace? so he could blame it on Christians and unite the roman people against them.
why did hitler bomb his own parliment building, to blame it on Polish communist and get the people to support him on invading Poland.
its the oldest trick in the book and it works every time.
 
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jaybird88

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I heard that the twin towers owners were going bankrupt due to vacancies. '
Is this true?
the towers had lost money going all the way back to the 80s, and maybe longer. the guy leasing them, Silverstein, had an insurance policy that included acts of terror, his investment on the towers were 5 million and he made 20 something million off the insurance payoff. going off memory on all this.
 
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I've felt since the very day of September 11th, 2001 that it was more than a terrorist attack.
I was angry about it that day, and I'm still angry about it.
I don't want to believe that the government was somehow involved.
I've studied both sides of the issue, and sixteen years later I still don't know what to believe.
Any others like me?
Anybody have insight that could help me come to a definitive opinion?
US did it in a joint effort with the Saudi government. /thread

 

Ahwatukee

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I've felt since the very day of September 11th, 2001 that it was more than a terrorist attack.
I was angry about it that day, and I'm still angry about it.
I don't want to believe that the government was somehow involved.
I've studied both sides of the issue, and sixteen years later I still don't know what to believe.
Any others like me?
Anybody have insight that could help me come to a definitive opinion?
Greetings Huckleberry,

When three buildings come down perfectly, in the same manner as they would with a demolition crew, something's up. People can use the two planes hitting towers one and two as an excuse as why they came down, but building number 7 is whole other issue. That building was across the street from the two towers, which was only on fire and it also came down in its footprint, imploding in on itself, just like a professional demolition.

Consider this, all of the smaller buildings that were under towers one and two, where completely burned out much worse than building number 7 and not one of those buildings imploded in on itself.

I remember watching the film footage of A guy in a construction hat coming out of building 7 and he was coming out he says to the crowd, "keep your on that building, because its going to come down." A metallurgical test would have to be performed in order determine if a building was going to come down. There would be no way for him to know that. If building 7 imploded and came down to the ground in its own footprint, then would have lots of buildings doing that.

What are the odds of not just one building coming down perfectly in its footprint, but three. I'd says, "who demolition crews, when we have building come down perfectly by themselves!

I personally have no doubt that the government did this for some political agenda, which we will find all about when those responsible stand before God at the great white throne judgment.

And since we're on this subject, I also believe that our government was also responsible for shooting down TWA flight 800. The eye witness accounts verify this and the FBI and others discredited them as valid witnesses and some of them were military who were familiar with ordinances. All of the witnesses reported seeing a missile like projectile coming from the right towards the plane and crossing over and exploding over the left wing of the plane, causing the wing to rupture and sending out vapor which was caused by the fuel. Then, reported another ordinance coming up from the water towards the plane with a direct hit. I believe that there was also a third ordinance shot at the flight coming up from the water.

According to the NTSB agents, the FBI was in the hangar at 2 and 3am banging on plane parts and changing the color codes on tags, trying to cover up for those responsible. One of the NTSB agents said that he had never been more ashamed of his country than when that incident took place, when the FBI came in a took over what the NTSB normally would oversee.


If you ever get a chance to see it, watch it. It is about 1.5 hours in length and goes into great detail about what the FBI was doing and everything that was going on.
 

ZNP

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I've felt since the very day of September 11th, 2001 that it was more than a terrorist attack.
I was angry about it that day, and I'm still angry about it.
I don't want to believe that the government was somehow involved.
I've studied both sides of the issue, and sixteen years later I still don't know what to believe.
Any others like me?
Anybody have insight that could help me come to a definitive opinion?
Look, if it was an inside job you would see them involved in a coverup during the investigation.

For example, they would destroy the steel, not allow anyone to look at it and send it to China to be melted down.

They would prohibit the ATF from using standard tests to check for residue from bombs.

They would prohibit the use of the ATF from doing experiments to prove the theory of what brought down the towers was true.

There would be whistleblowers coming forward and writing books on the coverup.

There would have to be another building used as the control center for the buildings to be brought down and then afterwards they would have blown up that building to make sure no one discovered any evidence on them.

Also, you can't do this in front of the entire country without other engineers and architects realizing it was not brought down by the planes and they would come forward perhaps creating a website, something like '911 Architects and Engineers for truth'.

Also, it would take many years to catch and kill Osama. You can be sure he will be killed, no way they want to risk him talking to anyone. But the reason it would take many years is they would want to milk this for all it is worth, and that is something you would also have to see. This would have been done for a reason, to change policy and to fill their pockets with money perhaps making drones and AI.

Granted all this stuff did happen, but don't confuse the appearance of evil as proof. The steel that was guarded by the military and sent to China to be melted, that was proof, all you have left is an empty egg shell.

So if 911 were really an inside job then where is this snake that did that? You would expect to see this snake eating others as it grew. Sure the Pandemic and kill shot and Ukraine war looks like it is the work of the same snake, only much bigger. But where is the proof? Sure a bunch of CIA spooks wrote that letter lying about the Pandemic to take the heat off of Wuhan, but maybe they just made a mistake.

That isn't proof. As for the strange things that happened on Maui, have you ever seen a horrific fire on a tropical island before? No, so of course it is strange when it happens.
 

NightTwister

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Anybody in construction knew straightaway that it was a demolition job.(see architects and pilots against 9/11)

the downing of building 7 would be hilarious...I think a lot of important cases were being investigated there.

there are hundreds of things that don't tally up.

One thing that really hit me, (after 5 years of being in denial) was that a poll was conducted of New Yorkers around 2004, and about 55% thought it was an inside job.

That really made me think. Many people would either directly know or closely be connected to people who were involved in it.

So when your friend tells you they know a fireman, and he heard hundreds of explosions, or whatever, then that is real information. 55% woke me up.
Someone in construction (architecture) here. Straightaway I knew it was a terrorist attack. No conspiracy theory needed.
 

NightTwister

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The maximum fire protection rating for steel column fireproofing is 4 hours. The fire in Building 7 went on for almost 7 hours after WTC 1 came down. The reason WTC 7 came down was loss of structural integrity. Details can be found here: https://www.nist.gov/pao/questions-and-answers-about-nist-wtc-7-investigation
Into it's own footprint? You know that's never happened before, right? A building collapse into its own footprint that was NOT a controlled demolition?