Simple Logic and Using Your God-Given Senses Easily Proves the Earth is not Globular.

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Gojira

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I agree. But the day Jesus died isn't the Day of the Lord. The sun will darken yet again, and the moon turn to blood, "before the great and terrible day of the Lord". Just as I believe this refers to a literal sun and moon, the same passages refer to literal stars falling from the sky.

I believe the Earth is flat. It started when I read about Joshua commanding the sun to stand still, and scripture recording that the sun indeed did stop still. God knows all things. If He made a heliocentric universe, He would readily have recorded He stopped the Earth spinning, not that the sun and moon stood still. Also note in Genesis He doesn't record anything about putting the Earth in motion. This would have been kind of a big step to miss, if Heliocentricity were true.

At that point, I started to become a geocentrist. The more I read scripture, the more I realised there was no support in scripture for a ball-Earth - if anything, scripture implied a flat Earth. I simultaneously started looking into the science behind heliocentrism, and checked the calculations to demonstrate that lighthouses can be seen on the ocean from further away than the horizon would allow on a ball-Earth. Water is necessary for proving Earth is flat, as land is not necessarily flat, but water will always find it's own level, so most valid tests for Earth's curvature are done over water.

The more I've looked into heliocentricity, the more I realise it is an imposed theory - no science requires it. It's like Evolution's closet-bound cousin. My observation is that Earth is flat, so logic and science direct that this should be my default position, unless it can be proven otherwise.

Gary already posted the scriptural evidence describing the stars falling to Earth. But even if they didn't fall to Earth (and they fell somewhere else), if they are millions of light-years away, how are we even going to see it unless we are waiting around for millions of years? Heliocentricity doesn't add up.
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See guys? Take these folks into space, and it would still make no difference. The "literal" stars will fall from the sky. W...W...Wow.

But, these threads are always good for a laugh.
 
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kinda said:
It's possible I suppose, but the Universal bias is strong, especially when main stream science is so dominant. To be honest, it's really flat earth propaganda, that got me to question. Talk about rabbit whole, it's been a 7 year journey into never, never land. lol

Not sure it's an age thing, sometimes people get even more close minded, when they get older. It's really a case by case basis.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, by the way. I don't really care, if people's views change, it's more important to know what's true, and how to apply wisdom. I just don't like being lied to, it's hard to make good choices, when you don't know the facts.
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The idea behind concave is that glasses have a concave lens and thus may lead more people to see your theory. I'm probably like most who just believe what I was taught in school and it seems to make sense. And I don't know enough about particular sciences to be able to argue definitively. I do know people were put into difficult positions for their beliefs and that's pretty credible with me. I guess if it was a salvation issue I would be more inclined to learn in greater detail. I do believe like the song that the earth still has a store of treasures untold and as civilization marches on God will continue to reveal them. Until then, I'll enjoy the threads.
 
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The idea behind concave is that glasses have a concave lens and thus may lead more people to see your theory. I'm probably like most who just believe what I was taught in school and it seems to make sense. And I don't know enough about particular sciences to be able to argue definitively. I do know people were put into difficult positions for their beliefs and that's pretty credible with me. I guess if it was a salvation issue I would be more inclined to learn in greater detail. I do believe like the song that the earth still has a store of treasures untold and as civilization marches on God will continue to reveal them. Until then, I'll enjoy the threads.
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That's to funny!

Yes, and what do people where to protect there eyes from the sun's rays...Sun glasses. It just might be possible, that God put a nice piece of glass in the sky to protect people, from the sun's radiation. lol

I like the threads, because they make me think. It's like a jigsaw puzzle of thoughts and you have to unscramble them.

It's always best to stay humble, because when you make mistakes, the fall isn't that hard. Humble pie is tasty sometimes though. lol

Yeah, we just might be the generation where God reveals the most, who knows?
 
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Ice.

Rock.

Snow.

Military installations. (apparently)

That is about all we know at this point... (that I am aware of - no doubt the military knows a bit more)
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How would the "Military know about something that doesn't exist???
 
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I love me some flat earth.
 
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Gojira said:
The "literal" stars will fall from the sky. W...W...Wow.
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Matthew 24:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mark 13:

25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

Revelation 6:

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Revelation 8:

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Revelation 9:

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

That is what the Bible says. Why will you not believe it?

The "literal" stars will fall from the sky. Because, the Bible says they will. Believe it.
 
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Believe it.
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Sure, okay. The beast then is literally a 7-headed creature that will rise from a raging ocean, too, since the Bible clearly says that.

Keep it coming! Let's see how far we can take this :D
 
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Gojira said:
Sure, okay. The beast then is literally a 7-headed creature that will rise from a raging ocean, too, since the Bible clearly says that.

Keep it coming! Let's see how far we can take this :D
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Unless you likewise disbelieve in the actuality that "the sun will be darkened" and "the moon will not give its light", you are being inconsistent and disingenuous. If you do deny these things, you are denying some fairly straightforward scriptures.

The creatures mentioned in Daniel and Revelation are clearly intended as metaphors or parables with spiritual meaning.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Unless you likewise disbelieve in the actuality that "the sun will be darkened" and "the moon will not give its light", you are being inconsistent and disingenuous. If you do deny these things, you are denying some fairly straightforward scriptures.

The creatures mentioned in Daniel and Revelation are clearly intended as metaphors or parables with spiritual meaning.
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I gotcha. You arbitrarily decide what are metaphors and what are literal descriptions. Awesome!
 
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Gojira said:
I gotcha. You arbitrarily decide what are metaphors and what are literal descriptions. Awesome!
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Did you read what I said? Do you believe the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, as foretold by scripture? If not, at least you are being consistent with your belief about the stars (not) falling from the sky.

However, if you are being inconsistent, you might want to examine more closely why you're picking and choosing which scriptures to believe.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Did you read what I said? Do you believe the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, as foretold by scripture? If not, at least you are being consistent with your belief about the stars (not) falling from the sky.

However, if you are being inconsistent, you might want to examine more closely why you're picking and choosing which scriptures to believe.
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Yep.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Did you read what I said? Do you believe the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, as foretold by scripture? If not, at least you are being consistent with your belief about the stars (not) falling from the sky.

However, if you are being inconsistent, you might want to examine more closely why you're picking and choosing which scriptures to believe.
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Look dude, I think you're way off. But, we're not called to strife. I'm not going to change your mind / heart. Maybe God will. But, this is going from being fun to being borderline argumentative. And, that does not bring glory to God.

I think I've said all I can say to you. Personally, I think everyone has, but some will continue. I won't.

Take care.
 
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