Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

J-T

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and this is exactly what God has burdened me with, I wont go into detail, but this cannot continue, there are people that belong to the flock that have become goats. We want them separated and the goats burnt for eternity. How do you tell a tree? By its fruit, an apple is not a pear, and a pear is not an apple, behove the difference and react accordingly. Man has free will, but the gospel and the truth of Jesus Christ will always prevail. Walk away from the lord at your peril.
John 10 is an important and encouraging read in the King James Bible. The Lord's sheep hear His voice and not the voice of strangers, therefore they cannot and will not walk away from Him. The Lord knows whose are His and will not lose a single one. Christians that are genuinely born again cannot lose their salvation. There are many passages and verses that we can cite and discuss, but the point is that there is a distinct difference between Biblical Christianity to that of Apostate Christianity; There are the Wheat (God's children) and there are the Tares (Satan's seed/children/false teachers/false prophets). The tares seek to deceive anyone that they can, but the people that are ultimately deceived are the simple and unlearned that obviously were not born again by the Spirit of God and sealed unto the day of redemption. The Lord Jesus Christ will succor all that God the Father has given Him, and no one can snatch them out of His hand, and neither, as the false teachers teach, that have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof, can they jump out of His hand, because Jesus Christ is God and is ALL POWERFUL to save. Hence, that is why He is called Saviour, because it is He that does the saving.
 

SoulWeaver

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I don't understand why the vaccine or a vaccine has to be considered inherently evil. I mean, verify that it is safe and test thoroughly of course, but is it impossible that God would bless us with the knowledge to create cures for diseases?

Also, searched last week and was not able to find any credible information on Bill Gates or his Foundation having patents on any vaccines. If you have a link please post it. I found a Microsoft patent on wearable chips but Bill is not even on the board of Microsoft today. He moved on to focus on his philanthropy foundation.
I see what you're saying. I was to send you proof, just to realize that you believe that Gates has nothing to do with it just because Microsoft patented it and he's not the official CEO right now? I suppose, never mind... I realize we will not agree on this.
I will just say for the others who are interested that it isn't strictly "wearable, it has potential to be used in various ways.
Interestingly the patent number is 060606.
Patent link - WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
 
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EleventhHour

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Yes, I know people. And the numbers are mounting. I have a friend who is a jacked muscle bound super athlete pastor in Dallas looks like the Rock, who's church went into 24 hour prayer as he needed help in recovering. He is better now but he will tell you it's no joke. Their church had a bunch catch it. I know of three older pastors that were near death on respirators Also Carl Lentz, pastor of Hillsong New York City got it and said it was the worst he has ever had and he is a super fit healthy 41.

I agree that the feeble attempt at "lockdown" did not work and I knew it wouldn't. Mainly because no one ever locked down. They just got paid to stay off work and run around and spread it. Should have just continued business as normal and worn masks and did what we could to avoid the cooties. But I could be wrong. Maybe it helped. Hard to really prove scientifically.
Where I live .... .dense population about 5 million, went into sever lockdown...people followed the protocols... even the teenagers..... we are now reopening at phase three and numbers holding steady.

....everyone does there part...it is that simple ... it is all preventable that is really the tragic part.
 
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EleventhHour

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Your fact checking jokes now as well...
Hehehehe... Relax...

Bill Gates is the virus extrodinare. Not only can he cure them but he can prevent them... LoL

He can lower the population growth with vaccines... Oh ye but that's by saving peoples lives can we do that... Ye sure...

And Gates is a prophet. So is Fauci. They both prophesied a once in a live time event... They must saints I guess... Sent by God to save mankind... LoL

All jokes aside I don't know anyone here that has had covid. Yet everyone I know has been hurt by these lock down's. Our lives have been turned upside down for the sniffles that kills people over 80 who were already dying
That last line is horrible.

For a minute I thought I was on an athiest forum and someone was making a case for eugenics.
 
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I see what you're saying. I was to send you proof, just to realize that you believe that Gates has nothing to do with it just because Microsoft patented it and he's not the official CEO right now? I suppose, never mind... I realize we will not agree on this.
I will just say for the others who are interested that it isn't strictly "wearable, it has potential to be used in various ways.
Interestingly the patent number is 060606.
Patent link - WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
I see nothing sinister in this technology. I am not afraid of the number 6. Seems like you are saying nothing but expecting someone to guess what could be wrong with this. Look, the prophecy about the mark of the beast is going to happen. We know that. If you want to let people know that it is going t happen then point to that scripture. There is nothing gained by trying to figure out which new technology might be involved. You will not need to avoid technology to be innocent. What alarm are you attempting to sound by pointing this patent out? That Bill Gates is the antichrist? What? Just say it.
 

SoulWeaver

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I see nothing sinister in this technology. I am not afraid of the number 6. Seems like you are saying nothing but expecting someone to guess what could be wrong with this. Look, the prophecy about the mark of the beast is going to happen. We know that. If you want to let people know that it is going t happen then point to that scripture. There is nothing gained by trying to figure out which new technology might be involved. You will not need to avoid technology to be innocent. What alarm are you attempting to sound by pointing this patent out? That Bill Gates is the antichrist? What? Just say it.
My point is that things stink, and are steadily moving towards that direction... If that makes sense?
I choose to be watchful, is all.
Like I said before, it's about money, buying and selling.
Look at Google. How powerful they've become by tracking and selling data. It boosts sales.
Did you know that period tracker apps also sell data? There's some very private data in there, many women who chart data often are those trying to conceive, putting in all kinds of private data. Imagine the level of intimacy that got violated, there was a big scandal about that. So that data is sought for, bought and sold, there is apparently a big market for all of it.
Imagine how much more can be tracked and how many more sales made if chip is put directly into a person's body to collect all kinds of data.
It's just a matter of time bro.
 
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That last line is horrible.

For a minute I thought I was on an athiest forum and someone was making a case for eugenics.
Im sorry for being blunt... Im not not making any cases for eugenics. What i said was a fact
Its a small case for triage management which sounds awful and it is. These decisions get made every day in hospitals.

Example - The suicided rate is up by 50% due to the lockdowns. The average age is about 44.
With the expected life expectancy at 80yo the potential life lost is 36 years...

Its not only covid lives that matter... All lives matter ALM
 
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EleventhHour

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Im sorry for being blunt... Im not not making any cases for eugenics. What i said was a fact
Its a small case for triage management which sounds awful and it is. These decisions get made every day in hospitals.

Example - The suicided rate is up by 50% due to the lockdowns. The average age is about 44.
With the expected life expectancy at 80yo the potential life lost is 36 years...

Its not only covid lives that matter... All lives matter ALM

You know if people just followed few simple protocols life would go on and please provide a source about the suicide, I do not pay attention to hearsay.. which is a staple the days.,
 

ev4989

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What plan do you think that Bill is stirring up? Everything that I have read about was that he invested 38 million of his own money to find a vaccine for disease in Africa.
 
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Please accept my apologies that the podcasts on this link contain some bad language; however the rest of the content is very worthwhile from what I’ve read and listened to so far.
Hope it’s some help🙂
https://truepundit.com/bill-gates-g...bury-negative-stories-about-gates-foundation/
No, the reason the news does not report on children being harmed by vaccines that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation supports is because it did not happen.

The claim of paralysis and seizure is similarly misrepresented: 1,048 children in the age group in question reported “serious adverse events” after taking the vaccine. It’s important to note that “serious adverse events” is not the same thing as “serious adverse effects”; participants were asked to track all serious health changes they saw post-vaccination, the vast majority of which are unrelated to the vaccine. (You can see the full list of serious adverse events in Table 3 of this document.) Only 10 children from the ages of 5 months to 17 months months had side effects caused by the vaccine, reporting 12 events: “7 seizures, 3 episodes of pyrexia [fever], 1 episode of myositis [muscle inflammation], and 1 injection-site reaction.” Three children in that age group experienced side effects: “1 injection-site reaction, 1 episode of pyrexia, and 1 episode of febrile convulsion [a convulsion caused by fever].” All children who experienced seizures recovered, and paralysis was not reported as a side effect, or even a serious adverse event, by any of the participants. Additionally, no parties raised ethical concerns about the initiative and it was declared a success after the vaccine was found to reduce the number of infant malaria cases by a third.

Ahmed’s paper provides little more than a basic description of the Meningitis Vaccine Project and only briefly mentions that there were reports of consent violation that were “unsubstantiated” and reports of side effects that were deemed “normal” and “not warrant[ing] safety concerns.” All reports of consent violation and side effects occurred in Burkina Faso, just one of the participating countries. Ahmed fails to mention that only four instances of side effects tied to the vaccine were actually reported in Burkina Faso: Two patients had skin conditions that can be easily treated and resolve themselves in days at most. The vaccine used in the project had regulatory approval from the necessary bodies and went through clinical trials before countrywide use of the drug began.

The Sharmeen Ahmed article used as the basis for claims that Gates used Third World countries as testing grounds for dangerous drugs is riddled with errors. India was the only country to raise ethical concerns about the vaccine program sponsored by Gates, and its concerns were largely unfounded or minimal. The HPV vaccines used in India were FDA-approved, contrary to multiple claims by Owens, and the meningitis vaccine was approved by the World Health Organization and other national governments before it was widely used. While the Malaria Vaccine Initiative was a clinical trial, it met all regulatory and ethical standards.
 
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So after listening to the accusations in that video you can read the verified scientific proof of the actual highly successful vaccine results in African children from the New England Journal of Medicine here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1102287

India and African nations are very pleased and all of these vaccination programs are still going to continue and save the lives of children and we can be glad about that. Yes it is a very evil world that we live in where people will make up lies about a good life saving work that is going on and try to make people afraid of it so that more children will die if they believe that the vaccines are harmful and not take them. And it is a very evil world where people will embrace nutjob videos over science journals. Very evil indeed.
 
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I see nothing sinister in this technology. I am not afraid of the number 6. Seems like you are saying nothing but expecting someone to guess what could be wrong with this. Look, the prophecy about the mark of the beast is going to happen. We know that. If you want to let people know that it is going t happen then point to that scripture. There is nothing gained by trying to figure out which new technology might be involved. You will not need to avoid technology to be innocent. What alarm are you attempting to sound by pointing this patent out? That Bill Gates is the antichrist? What? Just say it.
You are no servant of God while you are walking into the image of this world.
It’s quite obvious you are ignoring me. You probably have your reason, but with that you are ignoring the obvious.

The Chinese virus was (probably) caused on wet markets. Humanity is leaving less room for nature, exploiting it to her maximum bringing in all these diseases into our sociecties.
Why would we vaccinate so they can carry on with business as asual? Carrying on will make our factory farms cause a new epidemic which might grow into a new pandemic. Chinese even eat new born rats alive. Few more decades and the hantavirus has mutated to humans?

Bill Gates is working with the spirit of the anti christ against humanity. He is a liar and an evil man being corrupted by the number the of the beast. Wether you like to hear that or not. You either offend this world or God.
If we want to regain paradise we must live like we are worthy of the paradise. That is not kissing fascist butts.
 
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Fundamental

Guest
So after listening to the accusations in that video you can read the verified scientific proof of the actual highly successful vaccine results in African children from the New England Journal of Medicine here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1102287

India and African nations are very pleased and all of these vaccination programs are still going to continue and save the lives of children and we can be glad about that. Yes it is a very evil world that we live in where people will make up lies about a good life saving work that is going on and try to make people afraid of it so that more children will die if they believe that the vaccines are harmful and not take them. And it is a very evil world where people will embrace nutjob videos over science journals. Very evil indeed.
African people are not happy to have coronavaccins tested on them. When informing them on biometric vaccins on social media, most christian Africans I heard are not happy with that.

They have no descent healthcare or justice system to address things gone wrong. It is tested in those regions, not in the richer parts of Africa. Why do you think?
 
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You are no servant of God while you are walking into the image of this world.
It’s quite obvious you are ignoring me. You probably have your reason, but with that you are ignoring the obvious.

The Chinese virus was (probably) caused on wet markets. Humanity is leaving less room for nature, exploiting it to her maximum bringing in all these diseases into our sociecties.
Why would we vaccinate so they can carry on with business as asual? Carrying on will make our factory farms cause a new epidemic which might grow into a new pandemic. Chinese even eat new born rats alive. Few more decades and the hantavirus has mutated to humans?

Bill Gates is working with the spirit of the anti christ against humanity. He is a liar and an evil man being corrupted by the number the of the beast. Wether you like to hear that or not. You either offend this world or God.
If we want to regain paradise we must live like we are worthy of the paradise. That is not kissing fascist butts.
You seem to be preaching a religious message. 'Hate Bill Gates or your not a servant of God?' I think the opposite might be more what Jesus preached. Do not judge by outward appearance. Or do not bear false witness or make false accusations. You will be judged for doing this. I suggest that you read the bible as much as you watch or read conspiracy theories. You will probably get convicted about where you are violating true servant of God virtues and extract yourself from the insanity before you sacrifice too much more of your personal integrity to the altar of conspiracy worship.