Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 19.2%
  • Never

    Votes: 72 60.0%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 25 20.8%

  • Total voters
    120

PC123

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See that AstraZeneca vaccine... First they tried it on a bunch of chimps but they all got infected...
But instead of going back and making some adjustments they decided to go full steam ahead anyway with human trials...
Now two people have had dangerous reactions to the vaccine, one a couple weeks ago and one a few days ago...
The company initially stopped the trials in both cases before going ahead saying that the vaccine wasn't the cause of these reactions...

And this is the vaccine their going to force/blackmail people into here...
Not a chance... Im getting ready to go off the grid... Into the Aussie bush...
 

PC123

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These lockdowns were forced by communist collaborating fascists
Have u heard of Yuri Bezmenov? On youtube there is at least one interview and one of his lectures if your interested
He used to work in the propaganda division of the KGB and defected to the west in the 80s.
He explained how they were "subverting" America and the western nations over generations through indoctrination, media and other ways... Its a work thats been in progress from the 60s and now there are generations of "useful idiots" and the time is ripe for the communist revolution...
 
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I got my flu shot today. It was the Flucelvax Quad. I am prepared for the four they suspect to be the most likely. Also I am reading that there is already record low flu infections probably due to social distancing efforts related to COVID.

I am going to put the following on my phone and if anyone at church tells me about their ignorant theories on flu vaccines I am just going to say "Oh I am good because I got the .... " and just start reading below until their eyes glaze over and they leave me alone. Would that be rude of me? I probably won't do it, but it is tempting.

FLUCELVAX QUAD 2020-2021 Monographs
  • The 2020/2021 trivalent inactivated vaccine virus strains for egg-based vaccines are an A/Guangdong-Maonan/SWL1536/2019 (H1N1) pdm09-like virus, an A/HongKong/2671/2019 (H3N2)-like virus, and a B/Washington/02/2019-like virus (B/Victoria lineage). In addition to these virus strains, the 2020/2021 quadrivalent inactivated virus vaccine contains a B/Phuket/3073/2013-like virus (B/Yamagata lineage). The 2020/2021 trivalent inactivated vaccine virus strains for cell- or recombinant-based vaccines are an A/Hawaii/70/2019 (H1N1) pdm09-like virus, an A/HongKong/45/2019 (H3N2)-like virus, and a B/Washington/02/2019-like virus (B/Victoria lineage). In addition to these virus strains, the 2020/2021 quadrivalent inactivated virus vaccine contains a B/Phuket/3073/2013-like virus (B/Yamagata lineage).

    Inactivated influenza virus vaccine (IIV) is used to confer immunity against specific strains of influenza virus. Most IIV products consist of inactivated virus particles prepared from the allantoic fluid of chick embryos inoculated with the influenza virus; however, some egg-free products are now available. Flucelvax employs mammalian cells (Madin-Darby canine kidney epithelial cells) rather than chicken embryos to prepare the inactivated virus particles. Flublok uses baculovirus (Autographa californica nuclear polyhedrosis virus) infected insect cells (fall armyworm) to produce recombinant influenza virus hemagglutinin (HA) proteins. Because influenza viruses are continually changing and antibodies produced by the host in response to the vaccine diminish over time, annual immunization is required. The parenteral influenza vaccines contain either 3 (2 type A and 1 type B) or 4 (2 type A and 2 type B) strains that represent the influenza viruses likely to circulate during the annual flu season. The US and Canadian governments (individually) determine annually which strains to include in the vaccine based on epidemiological studies and consultation with several groups, including the World Health Organization. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend annual flu vaccination with an age-appropriate influenza vaccine (i.e., IIV, recombinant influenza vaccine (RIV), or quadrivalent live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV4)), without preference of 1 product or formulation over another, for everyone 6 months and older.
 

PC123

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I got my flu shot today. It was the Flucelvax Quad. I am prepared for the four they suspect to be the most likely. Also I am reading that there is already record low flu infections probably due to social distancing efforts related to COVID.

I am going to put the following on my phone and if anyone at church tells me about their ignorant theories on flu vaccines I am just going to say "Oh I am good because I got the .... " and just start reading below until their eyes glaze over and they leave me alone. Would that be rude of me? I probably won't do it, but it is tempting.

FLUCELVAX QUAD 2020-2021 Monographs
  • The 2020/2021 trivalent inactivated vaccine virus strains for egg-based vaccines are an A/Guangdong-Maonan/SWL1536/2019 (H1N1) pdm09-like virus, an A/HongKong/2671/2019 (H3N2)-like virus, and a B/Washington/02/2019-like virus (B/Victoria lineage). In addition to these virus strains, the 2020/2021 quadrivalent inactivated virus vaccine contains a B/Phuket/3073/2013-like virus (B/Yamagata lineage). The 2020/2021 trivalent inactivated vaccine virus strains for cell- or recombinant-based vaccines are an A/Hawaii/70/2019 (H1N1) pdm09-like virus, an A/HongKong/45/2019 (H3N2)-like virus, and a B/Washington/02/2019-like virus (B/Victoria lineage). In addition to these virus strains, the 2020/2021 quadrivalent inactivated virus vaccine contains a B/Phuket/3073/2013-like virus (B/Yamagata lineage).

    Inactivated influenza virus vaccine (IIV) is used to confer immunity against specific strains of influenza virus. Most IIV products consist of inactivated virus particles prepared from the allantoic fluid of chick embryos inoculated with the influenza virus; however, some egg-free products are now available. Flucelvax employs mammalian cells (Madin-Darby canine kidney epithelial cells) rather than chicken embryos to prepare the inactivated virus particles. Flublok uses baculovirus (Autographa californica nuclear polyhedrosis virus) infected insect cells (fall armyworm) to produce recombinant influenza virus hemagglutinin (HA) proteins. Because influenza viruses are continually changing and antibodies produced by the host in response to the vaccine diminish over time, annual immunization is required. The parenteral influenza vaccines contain either 3 (2 type A and 1 type B) or 4 (2 type A and 2 type B) strains that represent the influenza viruses likely to circulate during the annual flu season. The US and Canadian governments (individually) determine annually which strains to include in the vaccine based on epidemiological studies and consultation with several groups, including the World Health Organization. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend annual flu vaccination with an age-appropriate influenza vaccine (i.e., IIV, recombinant influenza vaccine (RIV), or quadrivalent live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV4)), without preference of 1 product or formulation over another, for everyone 6 months and older.
Ahahaha... Just keep rolling out short bullet points full of numbers and letters...
Its one of the best ways to bewilder someone, for sure... Short hand specs... Just go n and on and on... LoL
And if u can spit freestyle like a sermon, then... Well... That would be game set and match against any objections...

The flu shot is optional so im fine with it... But when bureaucrats start forcing vaccines then im no fine with it...
The sanctity of the doctor/patient relationship trumps what any bureaucrat tries to enforce...

Everything is set up for the rushed, experimental covid vax to be forced and i don't it... I don't like it at all...
 

Fundamental

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See that AstraZeneca vaccine... First they tried it on a bunch of chimps but they all got infected...
But instead of going back and making some adjustments they decided to go full steam ahead anyway with human trials...
Now two people have had dangerous reactions to the vaccine, one a couple weeks ago and one a few days ago...
The company initially stopped the trials in both cases before going ahead saying that the vaccine wasn't the cause of these reactions...

And this is the vaccine their going to force/blackmail people into here...
Not a chance... Im getting ready to go off the grid... Into the Aussie bush...
Coronavaccins are thus causing more diseases.
How dumb is ANY scientist or government to create vaccines with genetic modified viruses in stead of an inactive coronavirus?
 

Fundamental

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Have u heard of Yuri Bezmenov? On youtube there is at least one interview and one of his lectures if your interested
He used to work in the propaganda division of the KGB and defected to the west in the 80s.
He explained how they were "subverting" America and the western nations over generations through indoctrination, media and other ways... Its a work thats been in progress from the 60s and now there are generations of "useful idiots" and the time is ripe for the communist revolution...
Wars are not fought on battlefields anymore but on ftp :)
 
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Speaking of conspiracy theories. Do you think it is a realistic theory that many RNs who are anti COVID vaccine because they think it is rushed and can't be trusted, or hate Trump and want to be against it if he is for it, secretly giving people a placebo who come in for a COVID vaccine, thinking they are helping them?

Like radical antivaxxer RNs? Someone should investigate and do a youtube on that. I have met two RNs that are against vaccines and think they know because they are RNs, but if you ask them to explain how the flu vaccine works, they can't. This does not seem to make them doubt their expertise for some reason. I have met two like this is a very small town. Is this coincidence or is it evidence of a much wider problem. Do we have thousands of RNs who are against vaccines because they watch conspiracy videos (they are not required to understand vaccines to be able to give shots) and who might give people saline or something because they think they are resisting the evil Bill Gates and hidden treking device project?

When I got my flu shot today the RN said she was not on board with the COVID vaccine because she thinks it was rushed. It only took a little bit of conversation to realize she thought there was only one vaccine in production. I just stopped talking because I knew she was uninformed but expects people to think she is knowledgeable because she works at a Dr's office went to medical assistance school for two years and can give shots and stuff.

That's when I started wondering if we can trust RNs to give us the vaccine if they don't believe in vaccines? What if they claim to be Christian and they think they are sinning if they give you a vaccine? Would they quit their job or give you a placebo and fake you out? hmmmmm:unsure: .... I think I have been in the conspiracy forums too long...
 

GyO

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Hello GyO,
If you are interested in learning about how things are progressing with current COVID vaccines you might find this link interesting:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

"Researchers are testing 40 vaccines in clinical trials on humans, and at least 92 preclinical vaccines are under active investigation in animals. "

You might not have thought about this yet, but there are thousands of scientist, immunologists, virologists, hundreds of pharmaceutical companies representing thousands of individual employees who are hands on in the processes, thousands of medical employees, University staff, and government agencies, audit agencies and safety agencies, literally thousands of people who are hands on, eyes on every stage of the process, and NOTHING is done in secret, so that it is a TECHINCAL impossibility for something to be included in these vaccines that is not known, and it would be a TECHNICAL impossibility for all those separate competing companies, all the scientists, all the medical staff, all the university staff, and all the government agencies to all be in working in agreement on a secret plan that could be kept secret without many of them blowing the whistle or refusing to contribute to anything unethical, hidden or illegal in the process.

The way things really work in the real world make it IMPOSSIBLE that these vaccines would have a secret ingredient.

Sometimes people watch a movie or a read a novel and it is easy to make up a story of such a think happening but those kinds of movies are laughable to those who understand how things really work. Those kinds of movies are only entertaining to those who are ignorant of reality and therefore they can be easily amazed by the "what if" scenarios.

No need to worry about these fictional scenarios. There are plenty of checks and balances in place and you can read the scientific details of exactly how a particular vaccines is developed and tested if you research it. Also you will be glad to know that the mRNA vaccines do not have the same ingredients that viral DNA vaccines have nor do they use the DNA parts of viruses to trigger your immune response.

I don't really expect my post to make much of a difference for most people who are invested in their conspiracy theories, because it is easier to discover these facts with a google search than it is to find the crazy talk videos so I know that most people will stick to their tracking device conspiracy theories if Jesus Himself told them they were wrong but occasionally I try to remind people of the logistic impossibilities of including an unknown tracking device in a vaccine. Who knows maybe someone will "realize" that there are too many eyes on the processes for that to happen.
Just keep believing lies. But remember these lies you keep saying and publishing will cost a lot of precious lives to the Lord. You surely will answer to God on the judgment day.
---full stop---
 
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Just keep believing lies. But remember these lies you keep saying and publishing will cost a lot of precious lives to the Lord. You surely will answer to God on the judgment day.
---full stop---
One more attempt at a sane thought. Isn't it more likely that teaching people to not get vaccinated might cause a death that could have been avoided?
 

Fundamental

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Speaking of conspiracy theories. Do you think it is a realistic theory that many RNs who are anti COVID vaccine because they think it is rushed and can't be trusted, or hate Trump and want to be against it if he is for it, secretly giving people a placebo who come in for a COVID vaccine, thinking they are helping them?

Like radical antivaxxer RNs? Someone should investigate and do a youtube on that. I have met two RNs that are against vaccines and think they know because they are RNs, but if you ask them to explain how the flu vaccine works, they can't. This does not seem to make them doubt their expertise for some reason. I have met two like this is a very small town. Is this coincidence or is it evidence of a much wider problem. Do we have thousands of RNs who are against vaccines because they watch conspiracy videos (they are not required to understand vaccines to be able to give shots) and who might give people saline or something because they think they are resisting the evil Bill Gates and hidden treking device project?

When I got my flu shot today the RN said she was not on board with the COVID vaccine because she thinks it was rushed. It only took a little bit of conversation to realize she thought there was only one vaccine in production. I just stopped talking because I knew she was uninformed but expects people to think she is knowledgeable because she works at a Dr's office went to medical assistance school for two years and can give shots and stuff.

That's when I started wondering if we can trust RNs to give us the vaccine if they don't believe in vaccines? What if they claim to be Christian and they think they are sinning if they give you a vaccine? Would they quit their job or give you a placebo and fake you out? hmmmmm:unsure: .... I think I have been in the conspiracy forums too long...
Wether they rush it or not! Most people don’t need a vaccine against corona. The herd immunity after the spanish flu did not arise out of vaccines too.
Sweden isn’t vaccinating either against corona.

There are other solutions. It rather seems these elite people don’t want us to be healthy and die sooner arnd sooner. Old people have paid taxes all their life but are of no use and cost a lot of money for the system. The eldery were hit first and looking at politicians downgrading corona at first; this was no accident but will be seen as genocide.
 

GyO

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Christians! God provided neutral herbs for humanity which are far more effective than any vaccine created by 'the devil's chosen puppets'. And of course without any harmful side-effects. Do your research and ask God in prayer what to use. Also ask healing for yourself and others in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Christians! God provided neutral herbs for humanity which are far more effective than any vaccine created by 'the devil's chosen puppets'. And of course without any harmful side-effects. Do your research and ask God in prayer what to use. Also ask healing for yourself and others in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
God told us in Gen 1:26-28 To subdue the earth and have dominion over nature. He has in the process of time given us knowledge of vaccines and we have been able to subdue and take dominion over virus that once killed us by the millions. If there was an herb that could create the antibody to defeat polio virus we would use that instead of the vaccine. If we discover it I am sure it will be well received.

Religious zeal about the personal opinion of the effectiveness of a eating right will not automatically make fruits and vegetables keep you from getting Malaria.

It is just as Christian and spiritual to believe that Gen 1:26 declares that God has given man a job to do which includes subduing viruses with vaccines. Your accusation that vaccines are not following God's plan for man has just been corrected by the Word of God which is profitable for correction. I am not trying to debate you, I am lovingly correcting you for the sake of those who might have been deceived into thinking that vaccines were against God. They are not.
 

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God told us in Gen 1:26-28 To subdue the earth and have dominion over nature. He has in the process of time given us knowledge of vaccines and we have been able to subdue and take dominion over virus that once killed us by the millions. If there was an herb that could create the antibody to defeat polio virus we would use that instead of the vaccine. If we discover it I am sure it will be well received.

Religious zeal about the personal opinion of the effectiveness of a eating right will not automatically make fruits and vegetables keep you from getting Malaria.

It is just as Christian and spiritual to believe that Gen 1:26 declares that God has given man a job to do which includes subduing viruses with vaccines. Your accusation that vaccines are not following God's plan for man has just been corrected by the Word of God which is profitable for correction. I am not trying to debate you, I am lovingly correcting you for the sake of those who might have been deceived into thinking that vaccines were against God. They are not.
Utter blasphemy. Abusing the Bible and place it out of context to justify vaccination.
I rather listen to parents having had bad experiences with vaccines then some “wir habben das nicht gewusst-people” with some on payroll of the globalistic cabal.

You will not vaccinate any of us here. Strip our freedom and we’ll see you in Brusells
Sunday people march at Brussells too against this illegal government.
 

Karraster

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One more attempt at a sane thought. Isn't it more likely that teaching people to not get vaccinated might cause a death that could have been avoided?
Just wondering if you know what's in the serum? What is in a flu shot anyway? MCR-5, WI-38, both are derived from aborted fetus boy, and girl respectively. Also some vaccines contain blood of cows, pigs, monkey kidneys, mouse brains. They use this nasty stuff as a grow medium, absolutely demonic in my opinion.
 
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Just wondering if you know what's in the serum? What is in a flu shot anyway? MCR-5, WI-38, both are derived from aborted fetus boy, and girl respectively. Also some vaccines contain blood of cows, pigs, monkey kidneys, mouse brains. They use this nasty stuff as a grow medium, absolutely demonic in my opinion.
The exact ingredients are all well documented. You have to research your particular vaccine by name to find the scientific published data. General statements are the first sign of, misinformation and out right antivaxxer lies.

For example, if you read an argument about aborted fetal cells used in vaccines they should be specific about which vaccines they are talking about. Otherwise they are making blanket statements that do not apply to all vaccines.

Many of the current COVID-19 vaccines under development and final phased testing used ethically derived cells to resolve this issue and do not deserve to continually be lumped in the same list of vaccines that do still use the strain of cells originally obtained from fetus cells. When one rejects ALL vaccines based on this argument about fetus cells they expose their ignorance of vaccines.

Now I don't like the idea of using vaccines that were developed with the use of aborted fetus cells either but there is more to the story than that so here are a couple of things to add to your consideration:

The race is on to find a vaccine for COVID-19. The good news is that many of the world’s largest vaccine companies are developing promising vaccine candidates using ethically-derived cells. The bad news is that many of the leading vaccine candidates for the 2019 novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV2) are being developed using fetal cell lines that were originally derived from the tissues of aborted babies in the 1970s and 80s.

An example explanation about Fetus cells in vaccines:

Varicella (chickenpox), rubella (the “R” in the MMR vaccine), hepatitis A, and one preparation of rabies vaccine are all made by growing the viruses in fetal embryo fibroblast cells. Fibroblast cells are the cells needed to hold skin and other connective tissue together. The fetal embryo fibroblast cells used to grow vaccine viruses were first obtained from elective termination of two pregnancies in the early 1960s. These same embryonic cells obtained from the early 1960s have continued to grow in the laboratory and are used to make vaccines today. No further sources of fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines.

The reasons that fetal cells were originally used included:

  • Viruses need cells to grow and tend to grow better in cells from humans than animals (because they infect humans).
  • Almost all cells die after they have divided a certain number of times; scientifically, this number is known as the Hayflick limit. For most cell lines, including fetal cells, it is around 50 divisions; however, because fetal cells have not divided as many times as other cell types, they can be used longer. In addition, because of the ability to maintain cells at very low temperatures, such as in liquid nitrogen, scientists are able to continue using the same fetal cell lines that were isolated in the 1960s.
As scientists studied these viruses in the lab, they found that the best cells to use were the fetal cells mentioned above. When it was time to make a vaccine, they continued growing the viruses in the cells that worked best during these earlier studies.

Even though fetal cells are used to grow vaccine viruses, vaccines do not contain these cells or pieces of DNA that are recognizable as human DNA. People can be reassured by the following:

  • When viruses grow in cells, the cells are killed because in most cases the new viruses burst the cells to be released.
  • Once the vaccine virus is grown, it is purified, so that cellular debris and and growth reagents are removed.
  • During this process of purification, any remaining cellular DNA is also broken down. To learn more about DNA and vaccine, visit the “Vaccine ingredients – DNA” page.
As to what ingredients are in a vaccine, it depends on which vaccine.

FLUXELVAX QUAD can be researched. That is the flu vaccine that I just received. This will be a completely different list than what is in the Moderna mRNA vaccine. So making blanket statements about ingredients of vaccines is a sure sign you are reading or listening to deliberate liars. Stay sharp people and use that common sense and those research skills you learned in school.
 

Karraster

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The exact ingredients are all well documented. You have to research your particular vaccine by name to find the scientific published data. General statements are the first sign of, misinformation and out right antivaxxer lies.

For example, if you read an argument about aborted fetal cells used in vaccines they should be specific about which vaccines they are talking about. Otherwise they are making blanket statements that do not apply to all vaccines.

Many of the current COVID-19 vaccines under development and final phased testing used ethically derived cells to resolve this issue and do not deserve to continually be lumped in the same list of vaccines that do still use the strain of cells originally obtained from fetus cells. When one rejects ALL vaccines based on this argument about fetus cells they expose their ignorance of vaccines.

Now I don't like the idea of using vaccines that were developed with the use of aborted fetus cells either but there is more to the story than that so here are a couple of things to add to your consideration:

The race is on to find a vaccine for COVID-19. The good news is that many of the world’s largest vaccine companies are developing promising vaccine candidates using ethically-derived cells. The bad news is that many of the leading vaccine candidates for the 2019 novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV2) are being developed using fetal cell lines that were originally derived from the tissues of aborted babies in the 1970s and 80s.

An example explanation about Fetus cells in vaccines:

Varicella (chickenpox), rubella (the “R” in the MMR vaccine), hepatitis A, and one preparation of rabies vaccine are all made by growing the viruses in fetal embryo fibroblast cells. Fibroblast cells are the cells needed to hold skin and other connective tissue together. The fetal embryo fibroblast cells used to grow vaccine viruses were first obtained from elective termination of two pregnancies in the early 1960s. These same embryonic cells obtained from the early 1960s have continued to grow in the laboratory and are used to make vaccines today. No further sources of fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines.

The reasons that fetal cells were originally used included:

  • Viruses need cells to grow and tend to grow better in cells from humans than animals (because they infect humans).
  • Almost all cells die after they have divided a certain number of times; scientifically, this number is known as the Hayflick limit. For most cell lines, including fetal cells, it is around 50 divisions; however, because fetal cells have not divided as many times as other cell types, they can be used longer. In addition, because of the ability to maintain cells at very low temperatures, such as in liquid nitrogen, scientists are able to continue using the same fetal cell lines that were isolated in the 1960s.
As scientists studied these viruses in the lab, they found that the best cells to use were the fetal cells mentioned above. When it was time to make a vaccine, they continued growing the viruses in the cells that worked best during these earlier studies.

Even though fetal cells are used to grow vaccine viruses, vaccines do not contain these cells or pieces of DNA that are recognizable as human DNA. People can be reassured by the following:

  • When viruses grow in cells, the cells are killed because in most cases the new viruses burst the cells to be released.
  • Once the vaccine virus is grown, it is purified, so that cellular debris and and growth reagents are removed.
  • During this process of purification, any remaining cellular DNA is also broken down. To learn more about DNA and vaccine, visit the “Vaccine ingredients – DNA” page.
As to what ingredients are in a vaccine, it depends on which vaccine.

FLUXELVAX QUAD can be researched. That is the flu vaccine that I just received. This will be a completely different list than what is in the Moderna mRNA vaccine. So making blanket statements about ingredients of vaccines is a sure sign you are reading or listening to deliberate liars. Stay sharp people and use that common sense and those research skills you learned in school.
You got the one with dog kidney cells didn't you? https://time.com/3548419/flu-shot-flucelvax/

Let us know if you develop an urge to chase cars. lol, kidding....but anyhow, there's a link above, don't take my word for it.

Common sense should advise us that our Creator created us in such a way that we develop quite a healthy immune defense from what we are exposed to starting with our mother. Babies do not instinctively put everything in their mouth for no reason. That's the natural path, not a needle injecting nasty things that defile the temple. Make no mistake, these things defile our bodies, we are the temple.

There are many people who think man can improve upon what Almighty has made. I do not.

When did peanut/nut allergies explode? After peanut derivatives were used in vaccines, completely unnatural. When did autism become so common, 1 in 59 babies born today according to ADDM network, which I believe because I see so many, when I was a kid it was unheard of in our area I'm 61. Autism came on the scene after they started putting human DNA in it according to some scientists.

Some scientists are speaking up about all this, but they do not have a big platform, and certainly not Big Pharma funding.

It changes our DNA , hello?
 

GyO

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Scribe, stop talking nonsense. I have finished with you because I can see clearly that you do NOT have knowledge and wisdom at all.

Don't you know that our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit? Then why do you defile your body with unnatural substances like vaccines which are no more than drugs or even worse.

But my point is not the genuineness of the covid vaccine whether it's working or not but it is a sinister devilish plan behind the mandatory vaccination. People do not know about it but the real track and trace system is here in this vaccine. If you care about being tracked down by the government 24/7 in the rest of your life then stay away from vaccines which are suspiciously developed in a very short period of time. It is dangerous!!!
 

GyO

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Herbs, healthy diet and some exercise are all that you need to be fit and healthy without vaccines!!!
 
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You got the one with dog kidney cells didn't you? https://time.com/3548419/flu-shot-flucelvax/

Let us know if you develop an urge to chase cars. lol, kidding....but anyhow, there's a link above, don't take my word for it.

Common sense should advise us that our Creator created us in such a way that we develop quite a healthy immune defense from what we are exposed to starting with our mother. Babies do not instinctively put everything in their mouth for no reason. That's the natural path, not a needle injecting nasty things that defile the temple. Make no mistake, these things defile our bodies, we are the temple.

There are many people who think man can improve upon what Almighty has made. I do not.

When did peanut/nut allergies explode? After peanut derivatives were used in vaccines, completely unnatural. When did autism become so common, 1 in 59 babies born today according to ADDM network, which I believe because I see so many, when I was a kid it was unheard of in our area I'm 61. Autism came on the scene after they started putting human DNA in it according to some scientists.

Some scientists are speaking up about all this, but they do not have a big platform, and certainly not Big Pharma funding.

It changes our DNA , hello?
Your article was from 2014. Did you notice?

If you google, use something like "flucelvax quad 2020-21" without the quotes. Pay attention to your source dates as it would be impossible to get data on a flu vaccine produced in 2020 from a publication produced in 2014.

A good place to start would be this link https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/acip/2020-2021/acip-table.htm
It is egg based. And no I do not expect to develop a need to "cluck" lol. :)

And yes it does have some mercury from thimerosal and I am fine with that. If you want to make an issue of that please post your scientific documentation proving that there is a problem with thimersoal and do not bore me with mercury related information that is not applicable.

I do believe the science publications on the research about autism and vaccines that say that there is no link and so I am going to simply refuse to argue with people about it. They can all google and make up their own minds. I do believe that vaccines that are proven safe and effective and approved by the FDA can be and should be used to cure disease and save lives by the millions.

I do believe that people who do not want to believe that, and want to believe that broccoli can protect them from polio have that right and until a child is 18 (in the US) that child is at the mercy of their parents on this issue and that is just the way it is.

It is sad when a child dies of meningitis or whooping cough when there is a vaccine but the parents were convinced that vaccines were evil and harmful, so they would not vaccinate their children and they died, but we can't take parents rights away and so some children will continue to die because of ignorant parents.

I don't believe in forcing anyone to take a vaccine but how do we deal with a child dying from whooping cough because the parent did not want to vaccinate? Is that really OK?
 
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Your article was from 2014. Did you notice?

If you google, use something like "flucelvax quad 2020-21" without the quotes. Pay attention to your source dates as it would be impossible to get data on a flu vaccine produced in 2020 from a publication produced in 2014.

A good place to start would be this link https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/acip/2020-2021/acip-table.htm
It is egg based. And no I do not expect to develop a need to "cluck" lol. :)

And yes it does have some mercury from thimerosal and I am fine with that. If you want to make an issue of that please post your scientific documentation proving that there is a problem with thimersoal and do not bore me with mercury related information that is not applicable.

I do believe the science publications on the research about autism and vaccines that say that there is no link and so I am going to simply refuse to argue with people about it. They can all google and make up their own minds. I do believe that vaccines that are proven safe and effective and approved by the FDA can be and should be used to cure disease and save lives by the millions.

I do believe that people who do not want to believe that, and want to believe that broccoli can protect them from polio have that right and until a child is 18 (in the US) that child is at the mercy of their parents on this issue and that is just the way it is.

It is sad when a child dies of meningitis or whooping cough when there is a vaccine but the parents were convinced that vaccines were evil and harmful, so they would not vaccinate their children and they died, but we can't take parents rights away and so some children will continue to die because of ignorant parents.

I don't believe in forcing anyone to take a vaccine but how do we deal with a child dying from whooping cough because the parent did not want to vaccinate? Is that really OK?

I think people should do some serious research on the infant mortality rates prior to vaccination.... amazing what passes for facts now a days.