Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

calibob

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This has nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines.

Are you afraid that the Moderna vaccine (one vaccine of several about to be approved) will implant something in you in secret?

My experience (working to protect internal corporate data in a global pharmaceutical company) is that there are external auditors involved in each step of the process of the manufacturing through distribution. Nothing is done in secret. And that there are observers from all over the world involved as they are interested in the product as well. It would be impossible to sneak anything under your skin to monitor you.
But if you want to believe that is the way things really are you have that right.

Our ideas of reality can be imagined based on a lack of information. If we observe the manufacturing process and audit processes implemented by law that these companies are forced to comply with it will give us the "Oh... WOW... I did not realize that" moment and we will feel a little stupid. Like a child making up a story to an adult who understands how many mistakes the child is making about reality. We laugh when a little kid does this but it is not funny when a grown adult does it. We feel sorry that they are so ignorant of their being ignorant.

But I know my words are wasted on those who have found their sense of identity in inventing scary stories.
"Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it may creep, it comes when your always afraid." Steven Stills
 
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This has nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines.

Are you afraid that the Moderna vaccine (one vaccine of several about to be approved) will implant something in you in secret?

My experience (working to protect internal corporate data in a global pharmaceutical company) is that there are external auditors involved in each step of the process of the manufacturing through distribution. Nothing is done in secret. And that there are observers from all over the world involved as they are interested in the product as well. It would be impossible to sneak anything under your skin to monitor you.
But if you want to believe that is the way things really are you have that right.

Our ideas of reality can be imagined based on a lack of information. If we observe the manufacturing process and audit processes implemented by law that these companies are forced to comply with it will give us the "Oh... WOW... I did not realize that" moment and we will feel a little stupid. Like a child making up a story to an adult who understands how many mistakes the child is making about reality. We laugh when a little kid does this but it is not funny when a grown adult does it. We feel sorry that they are so ignorant of their being ignorant.

But I know my words are wasted on those who have found their sense of identity in inventing scary stories.
I don't think anything will be secretly implanted in any of us, I believe they'll tell us exactly what they're doing and I believe that most people will beg them for it. Most people will trade their rights and freedoms for "safety" any day of the week. This first vaccine is only round one of the vaccinations for COVID or any other "plandemic" that comes along.

The reason I posted the video is because bio tracking is one of the endgames of covid. Nobody would ever allow themselves to be implanted with biosensors and allow the government to track them to the minute detail of knowing exactly when and where you last had sex. But bring in Covid, nothing more than the common flu or cold, and call it a pandemic and then people will line up to be tracked and traced.
 

calibob

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I don't think anything will be secretly implanted in any of us, I believe they'll tell us exactly what they're doing and I believe that most people will beg them for it. Most people will trade their rights and freedoms for "safety" any day of the week. This first vaccine is only round one of the vaccinations for COVID or any other "plandemic" that comes along.

The reason I posted the video is because bio tracking is one of the endgames of covid. Nobody would ever allow themselves to be implanted with biosensors and allow the government to track them to the minute detail of knowing exactly when and where you last had sex. But bring in Covid, nothing more than the common flu or cold, and call it a pandemic and then people will line up to be tracked and traced.
This is beginning to sound like Animal farm, 1984 or THX1138.
 
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I don't think anything will be secretly implanted in any of us, I believe they'll tell us exactly what they're doing and I believe that most people will beg them for it. Most people will trade their rights and freedoms for "safety" any day of the week. This first vaccine is only round one of the vaccinations for COVID or any other "plandemic" that comes along.

The reason I posted the video is because bio tracking is one of the endgames of covid. Nobody would ever allow themselves to be implanted with biosensors and allow the government to track them to the minute detail of knowing exactly when and where you last had sex. But bring in Covid, nothing more than the common flu or cold, and call it a pandemic and then people will line up to be tracked and traced.
It will require quite a bit of technology for all that. Your video shows a device that must be attached externally in addition to the device under the skin that is analyzing the chemical traces.

So what if there was a device say a wrist watch that analyzed a chip underneath the skin in the wrist and then that watch did some computing work but also communicated with your hospital and doctor. If it promised for example, to identify the first signs that would lead to strokes, or heart attacks, or cancer, or other illnesses and by catching them early saved millions of lives a year would that be a bad thing? We go to the hospital and get "scanned" to find any hint of problems that could KILL us early and we are trying to catch them and fix them before it is too late. Many don't get scanned in time. And for that reason they die when they could have lived if they had been scanned two months or more sooner. If this technology could take us into the future of immediate notification of things that for all of history until now have been diagnosed too late, why would it be a bad thing to use such technology?

Some would say it could be used in a bad way by the antichrist. But I don't think like that. 1st of all in a totalitarian's government they can force a collar on your neck and you will have to do what they say anyway. So that is kind of a dumb argument to be scared of your rights being taken away. Your rights will be taken away whether you comply or not is such a scenario.

In America your medical records are protected by law. If you are afraid of hackers, that problem is already here and we have to continue to apply solutions to protect data but not using data is not an option.

If we don't want such a device then we don't have to use one, if someone feels that it will save their lives and help them live longer it is not fair to forbid the technology or take that right away from them just because you are afraid or just because you don't want to use it. You should have the right to refuse but others should have a right to use. (not illegal drugs. :p)

At any rate, the Covid Vaccine, 1st and 2nd dose cannot deliver any such technology and is not involved in such research.

Medical implant device for analyzing and tracking health might be coming in the near future but you are correct, people will line up asking for it and insurance will gladly pay as it will save them billions is medical costs for catching problems before they become long hospital treatments.

No one needs to trick the general public into accepting such a device, and many are ready to invest in the stock, bring it on.

Christians can protect themselves from all the imagined future dark forces by being completely surrendered to Christ today. No need to figure out which technology will be used for transactions to buy or sell ahead of time. If your not living a holy life your attempts to out smart the mark of the beast are in vain.
 

calibob

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These guys have been telling us for years exactly what they were going to do.... why would anyone not believe them?
I read and saw both of Orwell's books and the movies that followed. Animal Farm was about Russian Communism and 1984 was about a futuristic a Fascist totalitarian world regime and brainwashing. It hasn't happened yet however I'm fairly certain that it's closer to the truth than not. To most they sounded crazy but it could happen.
 
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I read and saw both of Orwell's books and the movies that followed. Animal Farm was about Russian Communism and 1984 was about a futuristic a Fascist totalitarian world regime and brainwashing. It hasn't happened yet however I'm fairly certain that it's closer to the truth than not. To most they sounded crazy but it could happen.
In North Korea. Or China. Maybe Iran but with a Muslim agenda. Never in America. That is why we are the greatest country in the world. We have too many checks and balances in place.
 

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My experience (working to protect internal corporate data in a global pharmaceutical company) is that there are external auditors involved in each step of the process of the manufacturing through distribution. Nothing is done in secret. And that there are observers from all over the world involved as they are interested in the product as well. It would be impossible to sneak anything under your skin to monitor you.
Why is it that you cannot see the painfully-obvious "disconnect" between this part of your statement and the rest of it?
 
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UK EXPECTS ‘HIGH VOLUME’ OF COVID VACCINE ADVERSE REACTIONS

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fthSMGABzZAr/
His voice is extremely annoying and his emotional emphasis are hard to listen too but reading there is no conspiriacy here dispite his annoying alarmist voice inflections.

A request for a vendor to present a software application that is better than what they have because they expect to enter data a high volume of data.

There will be a huge volume of people reporting that they have a headache, fever, muscle aches, etc. This should be most people who get the vaccine. So if you distribute millions expect millions with this adverse reaction. It is your immune system reaction. It lasts a day and it is over Same with a flu vaccine or probably most vaccines. The immune system reacting and creating the antibodies is what protects you from the virus. Without such symptoms (adverse reactions) you should be suspicious that you were given a placebo and may not be protected.

Making a big deal about (adverse reactions which the literature and the RN will tell you is to be expected, headaches, muscle soreness, mild fever for first day) as some kind of admitting that the vaccine is harmful to people is either EXTREME ignorance on the part of the speaker in the video or 2) he knows his audience is EXTREMELY ignorant and will fall for it.

Google it. "Definition of Adverse Reaction to Flu Shot" Or "Definition of Adverse Reaction to Vaccines" you will find that it is the medically terminology used by the literature that comes with the vaccine for the reactions of your immune system creating antibodies and is to be expected. We want these "adverse reactions" it is normal. It is desired. It is expected.
However it is also the number one reason stupid people say that the Flu Shot got them sick. They did not read the literature, or they were listening to rap music instead of listening to the RN who told them to expect these reactions and why. Then they feel feverish later that night and get on Facebook and tell all their ignorant friends that the Flu shot gave them the Flu.

Can you tell I am getting cranky. :mad:
 

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We feel sorry that they are so ignorant of their being ignorant.
Yeah - kinda-like how those of us who understand the true nature of the reality we live in - that evil agendas and conspiracies really do exist in the world - think/feel about those who are "living in the MATRIX" and refuse to open their eyes and see it...
 
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Why is it that you cannot see the painfully-obvious "disconnect" between this part of your statement and the rest of it?
I am not following you. My world view of reality is based on the way things really are, and not on conjured up imagined scenarios that are not the way things really are.
 
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Yeah - kinda-like how those of us who understand the true nature of the reality we live in - that evil agendas and conspiracies really do exist in the world - think/feel about those who are "living in the MATRIX" and refuse to open their eyes and see it...
The Matrix is not the way things really are. It is a bizarre imagined reality. A fiction. The fictional imagining of two transvestite writers. Not believable, not realistic, and illogical. Why adapt it as a possibility?
 

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I am not following you. My world view of reality is based on the way things really are, and not on conjured up imagined scenarios that are not the way things really are.
So you think...

Are you absolutely sure that there is nothing in existence that you do not know about?

In your statement, you indicated that you had experience in [essentially] "keeping secrets" - safeguarding undisclosed company information. The rest of your statement "praised the system" about how open and transparent everything was...

Do you not see the distinct separation of these two things?
 

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The Matrix is not the way things really are. It is a bizarre imagined reality. A fiction. The fictional imagining of two transvestite writers. Not believable, not realistic, and illogical. Why adapt it as a possibility?
Surely you realize that I quoted the phrase 'living in the MATRIX' [only] to illustrate an idea based on the movie concept.

:rolleyes:
 

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In America your medical records are protected by law.
That was when America was under the rule of law. Lawlessness began in 2008 (perhaps even as early as 2001) and has become a raging torrent today. Those who are supposed to be law enforcers are now the leading criminals. So your privacy means absolutely nothing. Thugs are roaming the streets with impunity while law-abiding citizens are being prosecuted for exercising their civil rights. And thugs are in control of the government at all levels.
 
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So you think...

Are you absolutely sure that there is nothing in existence that you do not know about?

In your statement, you indicated that you had experience in [essentially] "keeping secrets" - safeguarding undisclosed company information. The rest of your statement "praised the system" about how open and transparent everything was...

Do you not see the distinct separation of these two things?
Corporate data is to be protected. Things like HR Data. Financial records that are available to Auditors but must be protected from internal corporate employees so that they cannot cook the books even if they wanted to. (Technical controls)

There are so many checks and balances in place to keep things like "adverse effects" from being erased or hidden that the accusations from conspiracy theorists are laughable because they don't understand the safety guards in place.

My job was not protecting corporate data and access to specific data from hackers or people outside, that was a different dept., my job was protecting access from internal corporate employees so that one person could not have the necessary access to commit fraud or violate government regulations. These are called Segregation of Duties and required by law. For example many CEOs in publicly traded companies do not have access to make changes to financial data. They don't have the login access to make changes. Nor does their administrative assistant. They cannot ask anyone to fudge the numbers to produce bogus earnings reports because no one has that access. It is one simple example but there are thousands of scenarios that have to be protected so that the "dishonesty" and "corruption" that conspiracy theorists claim that they "know" global pharmacies are guilty of cannot technically be accomplished without so many people having eyes on it that it would never be able to be secretly accomplished. This is reality. Not your movies and fiction novels and bogus youtube videos.

I had to deal with the multlayers of audit protection on critical processes so I know how difficult it would be to get around all the barriers without it coming to light.
 
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That was when America was under the rule of law. Lawlessness began in 2008 (perhaps even as early as 2001) and has become a raging torrent today. Those who are supposed to be law enforcers are now the leading criminals. So your privacy means absolutely nothing. Thugs are roaming the streets with impunity while law-abiding citizens are being prosecuted for exercising their civil rights. And thugs are in control of the government at all levels.
No, those are isolated incidents that create alot of emotional response but do not make up the whole system.

There are 300 million people in this country and a handful of criminals screaming in the streets. Those lawless rioters are not America. The things that are broke can be easily fixed.
 
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Surely you realize that I quoted the phrase 'living in the MATRIX' [only] to illustrate an idea based on the movie concept.

:rolleyes:
Surely you can understand that my response was to point out the problem with adopting a world view based on a "movie concept". Don't you see the utter futility in that? To imagine a reality that is based on a movie dreamed up by two transvestites who's world view is screwed up. They are not brilliant, they are sodomites. Their imagined reality is stupid at best. It is not believable by a thinking person. Why use it for your "illustration?" Using it for an illustration of your world view would suggest that you have invented your own reality and this is once again, the definition of "crazy."