Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

ZNP

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i'm not referring to the language. Truth should resonate in the spirit, Holy Spirit guides in ALL truth, He will cause truth to resonate, his posts do not.
Yes, but that isn't proof he isn't a nurse.
 

shittim

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Yes, but that isn't proof he isn't a nurse.
Yes it is, and it is the way all Christians are to live, guided by Holy Spirit who guides us in LL truth, according to our Lord and Savior in John 16.
Anything else is leaning on our own understanding, which we are VERY clearly instructed to NOT do.
Christianity 101
 

ZNP

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Yes it is, and it is the way all Christians are to live, guided by Holy Spirit who guides us in LL truth, according to our Lord and Savior in John 16.
Anything else is leaning on our own understanding, which we are VERY clearly instructed to NOT do.
Christianity 101
With what judgement we judge we shall be judged. I am not concerned with Wolfwint's judgement before the Lord, I'm concerned with mine. I can't find anything in the NT that says I should be making judgements like this. If you have proof that it isn't true then go to him in an IM and ask him to clear that up. Otherwise I think this is reckless and I don't want any part of it.
 

shittim

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It's Christianity 101.
If you are not led by the Spirit as Jesus was, you already have no part, none of us do.
He only said what He heard the Father say, He only did what He saw the Father do.
Those were His words, He modeled how each of us are to live as we continue to be conformed to His image.
Anything other is leaning on our own understanding, which we are told to NOT do, that is what I see from the posts of aiden, nothing Spirit led, thus it does not resonate as truth.
goodbye
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Sure, in the Spanish flu 104 years ago, 50 million people died. They had no vaccines, limited medical care. Is that what you mean by letting your own system didn't work for them? Only 6 million died of COVID. I doubt the vaxes did anything, they did not help me! And all those natural things, I do daily. My gut has improved remarkably. Of course, I've been a vegetarian for 52 years, and grow all my organic vegetables. No junk food is owed in my house!

But eating healthy didn't stop me from getting COVID, nor has it stopped all my autoimmune diseases. My fibromyalgia is the worst it has been in 12 years, since I first was diagnosed with it. My RA is doing well, the biologic I am on is incredibly strong, and it has knocked out my flares.

A STRONG immune system means the body is attacking the immune system. A normal immune system does not attack itself. It just defends the body against foreign substances, like bacteria and viruses. For people with autoimmune diseases, the body can't tell which cells belong to the body and which are foreign, so it attacks everything! It's also why people with autoimmune diseases usually have more than one. I have 4 of them.
Here’s one of my resources and he talks about exactly what you’re talking about on the hyperactive side of immunity. How vaccines are possibly causing autoimmune diseases:

https://www.brighteon.com/041c25e6-b93b-450f-8ce6-a0cd9848fc89

Will be praying for healing as well.

Ps. Kind of a smart Alec, but there’s a reason why. He owns his own lab and is able to put everything under a microscope. Hopefully this shines a light.

We’re being lied to.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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I am well aware that the Spanish flu was deadlier than Covid19, I am also well aware that it was a worldwide pandemic. Yes, in individual locations they may have mandated a mask but that was not universal. Never before in History have we seen a worldwide shutdown, that is what is unique. We have seen deadly plagues, pestilences, epidemics and even pandemics before. However, a "pandemic" that spans the globe is going to be directly affected by travel and prior to commercial airfare that was limited, at least in time. Ships would certainly carry diseases from one port to the next, but it was easy to quarantine a ship and since it could take a week or more to get from one port to the next you would generally see people on the ship come down with the disease and so refuse to let them disembark.

However, this post of yours has left us all breathless for this marvelous insight you must have from your years of studying hermeneutics. Don't stop here otherwise we would think you are telling us to not watch for the Lord's coming, a direct contradiction to His command to us. When asked about His coming He gave the signs to the disciples. So please, by all means, enlighten us.
I dare someone to re-read Mathew Ch. 24. Still think it’s only delegated to Israel? This is happening on a world wide scale and it’s man made…
 

TruthSeekerJG

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It's Christianity 101.
If you are not led by the Spirit as Jesus was, you already have no part, none of us do.
He only said what He heard the Father say, He only did what He saw the Father do.
Those were His words, He modeled how each of us are to live as we continue to be conformed to His image.
Anything other is leaning on our own understanding, which we are told to NOT do, that is what I see from the posts of aiden, nothing Spirit led, thus it does not resonate as truth.
goodbye
It’s trusting in man and his pseudo science (self understanding) versus being led in Truth by the Holy Spirit. We just have to question everything and research. Instead of blindly accepting what someone tells us is True because they say so. Even though it isn’t rooted in observable facts, but theorizing and deeming it as fact. Like “evolution” for instance.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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This is totally wrong. They did have vaccines back then, as this was what caused the "Spanish flu". The people who didn't take the vaxes didn't get sick. There was the same old fear-mongering back then, when soldiers were returning from the war that people at home would come down with mysterious and tropical viruses, the same mentality sheeple lining up to get their tainted medicines which they thought would save them from the imaginary viruses, and the same mentality sheeple dying from the poisoned medicines they took out of fear and ill-founded faith. Vaccines kill - they always have and always will. Man cannot improve on what God has made.
Jesus made healing cures that the pharmakia companies wish they could make money on. That's why they spend billions of tax dollars each year promoting poisons and paying politicians to make them immune from prosecution and liability.

Two family members died from flu shots that they did NOT want. Another family member pushed them worse than some heroin pusher.
 

wolfwint

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"IF" what he is saying is truth. Just as someone here went off on "Newspaper prophecy", we don't know if he is or isn't what he says.
We DO know that Holy Spirit guides in ALL truth, which the poison jab fans do not say is their leading for taking it, quite the contrary. I still in all this time have NEVER known anyone with Holy Spirit guidance to have been led to take the poison.
This vaccine saved life and is no poison.
This vaccine is a med. with sideeffects. It is inperfect.
Why?

The posts do not have the ring of truth and credibility we should expect from a medical professional, as you have noted. More like a much lower level, if a hospital employee at all.
Shittim, be honest! Even if I would be a Professor. You never would believe what not fits in your believe system. You would create always something to critizise and discredit the person.
This is at least my expierience with your posts to me.
 

shittim

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so now you claim apriori.
more reason to extend zero credibility.
you operate on a "belief system" while claiming to be "Christian", the two are not the same . Another reason you make your credibility suspect.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Blood clots, healthy people passing out/ or dying all of a sudden, random variety of diseases popping up, 1,2,3,4,5…who knows how many jabs it’ll take, even though they’re creating a habit in us that way we will willingly take it with NO thought.

All political! People’s emotions are being played and their perceptions are being directed towards whatever narrative they want to propagate.

Is it not obvious?! Wake up people. The enemy is coming in like a flood.
This is rubbish!
 

ZNP

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This vaccine saved life and is no poison.
This vaccine is a med. with sideeffects. It is inperfect.

Shittim, be honest! Even if I would be a Professor. You never would believe what not fits in your believe system. You would create always something to critizise and discredit the person.
This is at least my expierience with your posts to me.
The goal, for me, of this thread is not to convince every person of my opinion. If we do that we have groupthink. No, my goal is to have a healthy, honest and robust discussion so that I can be fully persuaded in my own mind. To do that we need people to boldly and openly share their feelings regardless of whether or not they are popular. So I thank you wolfwint for doing that.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Obvious is that more people die because of the virus, then the vaccine.
This is an desease as it was after the sinfall.
The jugdements the World will see , according the book of revealation are from God and much more terrible.
The enemy works through making panic, spreading false teachings and leading to disbelieve God.
According to the stats I saw about recent hospitalisations of people in the UK, about 70% of those presented at the hospitals for other reasons and we're only found to have Covid symptoms because of the compulsory PCR test performed by the hospital at admission. The patients were oblivious to the fact that they were infected. Most were vaccinated to some degree. Some of them may have developed worse symptoms during their stay in hospital of course, and may have had to go on a ventilator. But the 'positive' take out is that it appears the vaccines in most part are doing their primary job, which is to mitigate against serious illness from Covid.
 
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Ruby123

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I think they are up to vaccine number five in this state. Soon people will have more vaccine than blood in their system (sarcasm). If people want to get it let them, but for those who dont let them have the same right. This has not been the case here.
 

shittim

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You are going through a lot there Miss Ruby. Are you seeing the Lord acting in protection of His own in this end time deception?
 
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ChristianTonyB

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I think they are up to vaccine number five in this state. Soon people will have more vaccine than blood in their system (sarcasm). If people want to get it let them, but for those who dont let them have the same right. This has not been the case here.
The recommendation in Qld is for people to have the original vaccination(s) plus two boosters. Not sure if there are more versions about to come off the press, I haven't heard of any.

As far as I am aware it's only compulsory here to have vaccinations if you are working in aged care, health care, hospitals, and disability care. Other employers can still require their employees to have vaccinations if they wish. It would obviously be an inconvenience to have to change careers to dodge around vaccination mandates, but that is a way around it for people that don't want to be vaccinated.