Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

shittim

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Twisted pseudo christian views need to be resisted. You are doing the Lords work.
Thank you brother
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Twisted pseudo christian views need to be resisted. You are doing the Lords work.
Thank you brother
Just thankful to the Most High. Yep, and at the same time just Trusting in Him to keep leading us on the right path of Truth. Set apart from this World.

1 John 4:4-6
(4) Ye are of Elohiym, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
(5) They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world hears them.

(6) We are of Elohiym: he that knows Elohiym hears us; he that is not of Elohiym hears not us. Hereby know we the Ruach Emeth, and the ruach of error.

This is my assurance when going against the world pretty much. If our view isn't popular with the world then we must be doing something right lol.
 

shittim

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Entering His gates with thanksgiving and His courts with praise always brings His confirmation and pleasure in prayer for me.
blessings. Now, I am taking in the Sunday service at jglm.org, the most biblical ministry I have even been led to.
 
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This is why in Oz you can get a letter from your doctor to abstain you from having to wear a mask, to mitigate against that happening. That letter provides you with the right not to wear a mask, and I suspect if the subject is an MD or RN they'll be moved from the frontline to a place where they will be more safe, and the patients and colleagues will be more safe from becoming infected by someone that is not wearing a mask in a high risk environment.
This is not the full truth. Most doctors in Oz are too scared to give mask exemptions because it is likely to cost them their jobs (many such doctors giving mask and vaxx exemptions have been pursued and delicenced by the tyrannical and publicly funded Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Authority (AHPRA), whose Board aren't even doctors themselves). Hence, many people in Oz can't even get mask exemptions from their doctors, even though they need one. And even with mask exemptions, because the government is blatantly defying its own laws on the issue, many other criminals are embolded to discrimate against those exempt from masks.

But the core issue is when did doctors or government suddenly become the arbiters of freedom, knowing better than individuals what is good or best for that individual? In my view, Oz has gone full totalitarian, and I wouldn't recommend anyone live there or visit. Let the Communists reap their destruction which they have sown.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Just read this.

"Christians, by and large, tend to adopt an anthropocentric (humancentric) perspective of the universe that places man, like the axle of a wheel, at the center of all things. In this view, man is both the principal protagonist of creation and its primary purpose. All other sentient creatures in created order are ancillary characters in the story of mankind. This presumptuous appraisal of the human race has engendered a condescending attitude in the minds of many Christians..."

Alberino, Timothy. Birthright: The Coming Posthuman Apocalypse and the Usurpation of Adam's Dominion on Planet Earth (p. 2). Alberino Publishing. Kindle Edition.
 
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This is not the full truth. Most doctors in Oz are too scared to give mask exemptions because it is likely to cost them their jobs (many such doctors giving mask and vaxx exemptions have been pursued and delicenced by the tyrannical and publicly funded Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Authority (AHPRA), whose Board aren't even doctors themselves). Hence, many people in Oz can't even get mask exemptions from their doctors, even though they need one. And even with mask exemptions, because the government is blatantly defying its own laws on the issue, many other criminals are embolded to discrimate against those exempt from masks.

But the core issue is when did doctors or government suddenly become the arbiters of freedom, knowing better than individuals what is good or best for that individual? In my view, Oz has gone full totalitarian, and I wouldn't recommend anyone live there or visit. Let the Communists reap their destruction which they have sown.
Obviously, I'm not talking about those innocent Australians who are caught up in this totalitarian plot - I'm trusting God will provide and uphold these as they have need, although if they have someplace else to live, I'd be seriously considering moving.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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I am not a fan of Oz he is an idiot sorry but he is. He told people to wear 2 mask, then was seen out in public not wearing one. In healthcare you do not have that option, at least not in the states. But I am glad ours is more lenient . If you're wearing a mask my thought you should not have to worry about someone else not wearing a mask. So if I don't wear one should not be an issue if as people say the mask works. That is my point my not wearing a mask shouldn't hurt someone who is, other wise as I said the mask really does not work. If people are that scared , I know if I were, I would not go out much. I don't have time to live in fear. Plus for me God showed me 365 times it says in bible do not be afraid. So leaning on him. I am still healing from PTSD , so daily I give all my fears and anxiety to God and move on.I will not let the devil cripple me with fear.
Sorry, I meant Oz being Australia. 😅
 

posthuman

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just checking in again -- i took J&J vaccine on advice of my doctors & common sense, over 2 years ago

  • have not grown bat wings
  • have not become a feminist
  • have not developed any weird inclination to vote for the communist party
  • am still a Christian
  • haven't had covid or actually, been sick at all outside of some mild regular seasonal allergies
  • am still alive

i think data-driven science is pretty cool, however, i've thought so for a long time -- nothing new there.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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just checking in again -- i took J&J vaccine on advice of my doctors & common sense, over 2 years ago

  • have not grown bat wings
  • have not become a feminist
  • have not developed any weird inclination to vote for the communist party
  • am still a Christian
  • haven't had covid or actually, been sick at all outside of some mild regular seasonal allergies
  • am still alive

i think data-driven science is pretty cool, however, i've thought so for a long time -- nothing new there.
You're doing well mate. But if you don't mind me saying, looking at your profile pic I think you could do with a bit of a feed!
 
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kaylagrl

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[QUOTE="Inquisitor, post: 4893592, member: 314691]

The lesson perhaps is that a personal freedom for the majority of people, is not such a good thing.
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Well I can't tell you how much I disagree with this sentiment. I believe personal freedom is indeed everything. It's what our forefathers fought for. My sister is a "vegan", something she decided for herself because she is afraid of growing old, but won't admit it to herself. She is sick every time I turn around. She believes it brings her health but so was so sick a couple weeks ago she came home to my parents and they had to take her to their doctor to get her back on her feet. Neither of my teen nephews get sick as often as she does. But now she is pushing her views on the boys, so far, steak wins. There is a happy medium in the middle. People just need to find it. But lately I'd say listen to your body more and your doctor less. So far, they've been dead wrong on a lot of things here recently.
 
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kaylagrl

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just checking in again -- i took J&J vaccine on advice of my doctors & common sense, over 2 years ago

  • have not grown bat wings
  • have not become a feminist
  • have not developed any weird inclination to vote for the communist party
  • am still a Christian
  • haven't had covid or actually, been sick at all outside of some mild regular seasonal allergies
  • am still alive

i think data-driven science is pretty cool, however, i've thought so for a long time -- nothing new there.
Ok, bat wings would be cool and if that happens there better be pics here first before the news or I will be soooo mad at you!! I haven't looked to see if you shared your age, or if you care to. I think it has a lot to do with age. I didn't have the vax, I didn't wear a mask. I had a mild form of something I was told was probably COVID. Not sure. My sisters husband had COVID, so they locked down and my sister swore she had it too. Was tested and told she didn't have it. They had worn masks, she didn't go in to stores, kept the kids home from church and everything. Still got it in the family. COVID didn't change a thing for me. Lived my life like I always did. I didn't believe them then I believe them less now. Dr. Birx is having guilty pangs I think, her book is finally telling some truth. Yet none of it surprised me. Science is cool, when science is applied. It wasn't here.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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just checking in again -- i took J&J vaccine on advice of my doctors & common sense, over 2 years ago

  • have not grown bat wings
  • have not become a feminist
  • have not developed any weird inclination to vote for the communist party
  • am still a Christian
  • haven't had covid or actually, been sick at all outside of some mild regular seasonal allergies
  • am still alive

i think data-driven science is pretty cool, however, i've thought so for a long time -- nothing new there.
So during the process of receiving a rushed vaccine through emergency authorization, that was implemented by Fauci (if you live within the states), has not been proven long term, did you exercise common sense?
 

posthuman

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Ok, bat wings would be cool and if that happens there better be pics here first before the news or I will be soooo mad at you!! I haven't looked to see if you shared your age, or if you care to. I think it has a lot to do with age. I didn't have the vax, I didn't wear a mask. I had a mild form of something I was told was probably COVID. Not sure. My sisters husband had COVID, so they locked down and my sister swore she had it too. Was tested and told she didn't have it. They had worn masks, she didn't go in to stores, kept the kids home from church and everything. Still got it in the family. COVID didn't change a thing for me. Lived my life like I always did. I didn't believe them then I believe them less now. Dr. Birx is having guilty pangs I think, her book is finally telling some truth. Yet none of it surprised me. Science is cool, when science is applied. It wasn't here.
i'm 45 and kept whatever rules regarding masks there were whenever they were in effect. i do try not to be an intentional lawbreaker.
i work in an international environment, in contact with people from all over the world. for a while we had strict guidelines but they're all relaxed now.
on my pulmonologist's recommendation i've been taking higher-than-normal vitamin D, B complex & zinc for about 6 years. these things boost our immune system, particularly the antibodies in our mouth & nose. way before covid it was a strategy he advised me of to help prevent and/or mitigate any respiratory infection, because i have a condition with weakened lungs.
hence the having a 'regular pulmonologist'


he's shown me several studies that show having high levels of these vitamins correlates very well with remaining uninfected or having mild to asymptomatic reactions to coronaviruses in all their variants - even the common cold/flu. the data shows the effectiveness of these things to be well over 80%, which is clearly better numbers-wise than vaccines & at least on par with vaccines and regular boosters, better in some cases.

it seems to me the whole keep-a-healthy-immune-system thing is every bit as effective if not more than depending on a chemical 'block' in the form of vaccines & repeated boosting. that's my doctor's feelings too. he's become rather openly embittered about how the major pharmaceutical companies have steered the conversation about covid towards dependence on vaccines, particularly when we still have no such thing as a 'true' vaccine like we have for smallpox or mumps etc, where a shot can truly give you immunity. no one talks about the whole elevated vitamin D & zinc thing even though vitamin supplements are readily available in huge quantities, relatively cheaply, and have a whole lot of verifiable data supporting their effectiveness.

i mean, the scientist in me says there's evidence that in my case this has been working.
the Christian in me knows however that it's ultimately been God favoring me, blessing me with health. :)




and yeah i am a bit jelly about not getting bat wings.
was really thinking that'd be cool; it was part of the appeal lol
 

posthuman

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So during the process of receiving a rushed vaccine through emergency authorization, that was implemented by Fauci (if you live within the states), has not been proven long term, did you exercise common sense?
common sense is that any potential opportunity to grow bat wings & develop superhuman hearing is an opportunity that must be seized.
 

posthuman

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a rushed vaccine through emergency authorization
wait -- you didn't trust Trump?

he was proud of getting that done - i was under the impression that rushing through the vaccine approval literally made America great again... lol
 

TruthSeekerJG

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common sense is that any potential opportunity to grow bat wings & develop superhuman hearing is an opportunity that must be seized.
That totally makes sense... lol

wait -- you didn't trust Trump?

he was proud of getting that done - i was under the impression that rushing through the vaccine approval literally made America great again... lol
Good thing I don't go along with the political paradigm and wasn't in favor of "Operation Warpspeed." Trump isn't even a doctor and was going along with the advice of these so-called experts. Even though the Biden Administration likes to take credit for something they never implemented. They are both on the same coin deceiving seculars and so-called Christians.

You don't think the enemy would know how to play both sides?
 

shittim

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President Trump trusted the Drs. too, I believe he is much wiser now.
Dr. Phonies attempt to patent his poison mrna treatment was soundly rejected.
this is from the Dr. David R. Martin video I have shared frequently here, it was, and is all about Dr. Phony Fauci wanting to get everyone injected with the known to be harmful spike one protein.
https://kickthemallout.com/article....Efforts_to_get_mRNA_Jabs_Patented_as_Vaccines
 

PennEd

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have not developed any weird inclination to vote for the communist party
Well you vote Democrat, which is IDENTICAL to the communist party!

Now if the "vaccine" got people to vote for those that most closely adhere to the Constitution, I might be a big advocate of it!
 

ZNP

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wait -- you didn't trust Trump?

he was proud of getting that done - i was under the impression that rushing through the vaccine approval literally made America great again... lol
Common misperception, those that voted for Trump were exercising common sense. MSM wants to portray them as mindless cult members who follow groupthink, I guess this exposes that lie as falsehood.

It is abundantly obvious that those who voted for Biden are the mindless drones. When Harris and Biden said they wouldn't trust the vaccine that Trump made they cheered, then when Biden said you should get it but he wouldn't mandate it, they were obedient. Then when Biden mandated it did they say, hold on a second? Nope.

These are the ones that attacked anyone who mentioned Hunter Biden's laptop parroting the party line that it was Russian disinformation. Do they now realize they were pushing the lie? Do they repent?

Joe Biden stayed in the basement, said he had the best fraud department in history, and then claimed to have gotten 12 million more votes than Obama. Did they say hmmm, somethings not right here?

I have seen many videos where they read quotes to people on the street presumably from Trump and the people are outraged at what a bigot he is. Then they reveal they were actually quotes from Biden. The people who voted for him had no idea who he was. About 10% said they wouldn't have voted for him if they had known that the Hunter Biden laptop was real. Enough with the jokes the real brainwashed drones who are completely clueless and just do what they are told are Biden voters, all 50 million of them.