The Catholic pope and his new concordat.

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Catholics are pointed towards the vatican, and they idolize other idols over Jesus. Jesus is nr 3 on their list of prayers. That is fine by me, if God was one of them, but he is not, it is Mary and some other saint. That is idolitary. If they make Jesus out to the be end of it all, as many do. If it is so, people should pray directly, not use conduits. Not go through his girlfriend, or friends. This is all wrong for me because Jesus points to God, so prayers should be directed at God. By judging the head of catholics, you judge catholics, since they worship that church and follow that pope. Rightful judgement I feel. The popes have been bad throughout my life.
I know quite a few Catholics.
None of them worship Mary.
None of them worship any saints or the pope.
All of them are horrified by the actions of the Vatican.
All of them worship Jesus and no one else.

Your statements are ridiculous.
 

kinda

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3. I think I tend to disagree with your idea that Catholic leadership is a threat to Protestants. I think the people that are most under threat from Catholic leadership are Catholics! Protestants have a lot bigger threats that the pope. If you focus on the pope you're never going to see the threats that are much more dangerous and much closer.
What's your take on Jesuits? Non threat?

What's more dangerous and closer, as far as threat concerns you more?
 

Dude653

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I know quite a few Catholics.
None of them worship Mary.
None of them worship any saints or the pope.
All of them are horrified by the actions of the Vatican.
All of them worship Jesus and no one else.

Your statements are ridiculous.
Except for the part where they do. They literally pray to her
 
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What's your take on Jesuits? Non threat?

What's more dangerous and closer, as far as threat concerns you more?
My understanding is that the Jesuit's used to be super awesome and now they are super cucked. Sad. Are they a threat? Unless something radically changes in the world, then I say no. Why? Catholic church is waning in influence and power. They're hemorrhaging money like crazy because their pews are all empty and no one is going to their services anymore. Something big would have to happen for them to be a super powerhouse like they used to be.

Regarding what I see as threats? First of all, threats to what, exactly??
To me personally? Nihilism. Despair. Growing weary of resisting.
Threats to Christendom as a whole? Modernism. Freemasonry. Jewish influence. Porn. Islam.

Threats to Protestants specifically? I am a Protestant, but as a Protestant, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if the greatest threat to Protestants is Protestantism itself.
 
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Except for the part where they do. They literally pray to her
Ok. On the one hand I can trust all these people that tell me that they absolutely do not worship Mary. Or I can listen to an anti-Christian who trolls a Christian website and says all these other people are lying.
 

Dude653

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Ok. On the one hand I can trust all these people that tell me that they absolutely do not worship Mary. Or I can listen to an anti-Christian who trolls a Christian website and says all these other people are lying.
Correct this is a Christian page and not a Catholic page. Robo op made that clear years ago
 

Dude653

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Let's just look at how many biblical principles Catholicism violates
1. Graven images
2. The Bible says Jesus is the intercessor between man and god, Catholicism puts a man back in that position
3. The concept of purgatory. Also not biblical
4. Praying to saints. Nowhere in the Bible is anyone instructed to pray to anyone other than God or Jesus
5. Ventilating Mary as a deity
The Bible specifically says God does not share his glory with anyone
And don't even get me started on how they protect child molesters
 

Dude653

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Nor is it an atheist site. Yet here you are.
And this is why I usually scroll past the religious post and just stick to the political topics. However I have read the Bible and I know what it says in Catholicism doesn't line up with what the Bible says
The Nazis were catholic too so there's that
 

arthurfleminger

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Wow, I'm reading this thread and all I can see is attacks against the Pope and the Catholic Church. We Protestants need to remember the parables about the splinter in the Catholic Church's eye and the log in our own eye. And also the parable about the Pharisee/Protestant in the temple who could find every kind of shameful fault with the tax collector/Catholic but he couldn't see any of his faults.

So why does everyone on this thread fail to notice what we 'Bible Believing/Holy Spirit Guided' Christians are doing?

1. Homosexuality is clearly defined as an abomination. Yet many of our Protestant brothers/sisters/churches are not only accepting homosexuality, they are bringing it into their churches and giving gay marriages 'God's blessing' in formal rites of their church. WOW!!!!!!!! Sinking into the abyss.

2. How many of our Protestant churches have fallen to the 'Gospel of Prosperity' where all the emphasis is on worldly goods? A far cry from what Jesus taught.

3. How come we Protestants all have the same Scripture/Bible, yet while we're attacking the Catholic Church because we don't agree with them we can't even agree with each other on many major contentions of the faith. That's why we have 40,000 different Protestant denominations in this country. We can't agree with each other but we'll save our attacks for the Catholics.


4. The Pope is an authority figure for Catholics. But we Protestants have our own authority figures. Try disagreeing with your Pastor's interpretation of Scripture and see how long he let's you stay in 'his' church. Protestants can't agree with each other and many have set themselves up as our own little Popes, they decree what Scripture interpretation is correct.

5. Referencing all the scandals that the Catholic Church has faced currently and over the last 2,000 years, we Protestant Christians seem to bury and forget our own scandals, and there are many indeed!

6. I could go on and on, but there's not enough time to put forth all of our Protestant failures and moral corruptions. The BIG QUESTION IS, "WHY ARE WE POINTING THE FINGER OF BLAME AT OTHERS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT OURSELVES.?" Remember the 'Picture of Dorian Gray'.

So, what's wrong with this picture? Just wondering??????????
 

arthurfleminger

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Wow, I'm reading this thread and all I can see is attacks against the Pope and the Catholic Church. We Protestants need to remember the parables about the splinter in the Catholic Church's eye and the log in our own eye. And also the parable about the Pharisee/Protestant in the temple who could find every kind of shameful fault with the tax collector/Catholic but he couldn't see any of his faults.

So why does everyone on this thread fail to notice what we 'Bible Believing/Holy Spirit Guided' Christians are doing?

1. Homosexuality is clearly defined as an abomination. Yet many of our Protestant brothers/sisters/churches are not only accepting homosexuality, they are bringing it into their churches and giving gay marriages 'God's blessing' in formal rites of their church. WOW!!!!!!!! Sinking into the abyss.

2. How many of our Protestant churches have fallen to the 'Gospel of Prosperity' where all the emphasis is on worldly goods? A far cry from what Jesus taught.

3. How come we Protestants all have the same Scripture/Bible, yet while we're attacking the Catholic Church because we don't agree with them we can't even agree with each other on many major contentions of the faith. That's why we have 40,000 different Protestant denominations in this country. We can't agree with each other but we'll save our attacks for the Catholics.


4. The Pope is an authority figure for Catholics. But we Protestants have our own authority figures. Try disagreeing with your Pastor's interpretation of Scripture and see how long he let's you stay in 'his' church. Protestants can't agree with each other and many have set themselves up as our own little Popes, they decree what Scripture interpretation is correct.

5. Referencing all the scandals that the Catholic Church has faced currently and over the last 2,000 years, we Protestant Christians seem to bury and forget our own scandals, and there are many indeed!

6. I could go on and on, but there's not enough time to put forth all of our Protestant failures and moral corruptions. The BIG QUESTION IS, "WHY ARE WE POINTING THE FINGER OF BLAME AT OTHERS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT OURSELVES.?" Remember the 'Picture of Dorian Gray'.

So, what's wrong with this picture? Just wondering??????????

The 'Antichrist' will bring abomination into the church. Yet today's Protestant Churches, our brothers/sisters are giving God's blessing to abominations at their worship services. Are Protestant Churches, our churches, now offering Satanic services? Just asking??????" Homosexuality is clearly defined as an abomination. Yet many of our Protestant brothers/sisters/churches are not only accepting homosexuality, they are bringing it into their churches and giving gay marriages 'God's blessing' in formal rites of their church. WOW!!!!!!!! Sinking into the abyss.
 

kinda

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Wow, I'm reading this thread and all I can see is attacks against the Pope and the Catholic Church. We Protestants need to remember the parables about the splinter in the Catholic Church's eye and the log in our own eye. And also the parable about the Pharisee/Protestant in the temple who could find every kind of shameful fault with the tax collector/Catholic but he couldn't see any of his faults.

So why does everyone on this thread fail to notice what we 'Bible Believing/Holy Spirit Guided' Christians are doing?

1. Homosexuality is clearly defined as an abomination. Yet many of our Protestant brothers/sisters/churches are not only accepting homosexuality, they are bringing it into their churches and giving gay marriages 'God's blessing' in formal rites of their church. WOW!!!!!!!! Sinking into the abyss.

2. How many of our Protestant churches have fallen to the 'Gospel of Prosperity' where all the emphasis is on worldly goods? A far cry from what Jesus taught.

3. How come we Protestants all have the same Scripture/Bible, yet while we're attacking the Catholic Church because we don't agree with them we can't even agree with each other on many major contentions of the faith. That's why we have 40,000 different Protestant denominations in this country. We can't agree with each other but we'll save our attacks for the Catholics.


4. The Pope is an authority figure for Catholics. But we Protestants have our own authority figures. Try disagreeing with your Pastor's interpretation of Scripture and see how long he let's you stay in 'his' church. Protestants can't agree with each other and many have set themselves up as our own little Popes, they decree what Scripture interpretation is correct.

5. Referencing all the scandals that the Catholic Church has faced currently and over the last 2,000 years, we Protestant Christians seem to bury and forget our own scandals, and there are many indeed!

6. I could go on and on, but there's not enough time to put forth all of our Protestant failures and moral corruptions. The BIG QUESTION IS, "WHY ARE WE POINTING THE FINGER OF BLAME AT OTHERS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT OURSELVES.?" Remember the 'Picture of Dorian Gray'.

So, what's wrong with this picture? Just wondering??????????
Once again, if you want to start your own thread, about Protestant short falls, feel free to do so. This is a little more narrow in scope, this thread is suppose to be directed to, information regarding an old enemy, that seems to have healed from it's deadly wound (RCC). You could also start a thread on why Christians shouldn't talk about Catholic in a negative light. There are some threads ideas for you.

Basically, can we stay on track please? Thank you!
 

Dude653

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Oh and I forgot campaigning against condom use in Africa in the middle of an AIDS pandemic
 

kinda

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"Fauci often credits part of his professional success to the inculcation (indoctrination) of Jesuit intellectual rigor that was a core part of his education: an emphasis on organization and logic, on succinctness and clarity of expression. Arguably, the twinning of science and the humanities has proved useful in his dual roles as physician and researcher as well." "He graduated from the College of the Holy Cross in Massachusetts, said to be the oldest Catholic college in New England, where he received a bachelor’s degree in the classics."


https://us15.campaign-archive.com/?u=8e2f4c6ecbfced21110c5220a&id=1cad8d9988

Dr. Fauci looks to be a Jesuit Catholic, since he went to a Catholic high school and college, but says, he is a humanist.

Joe Biden is a Catholic, most of the Supreme Court is Catholic, Dr. Fauci went through a Jesuit Catholic education, and of course the head of the Catholic Church is a Jesuit.

Needless to say, America has turned from it's roots, since the very reason the Pilgrims left Europe, and went to America was for religious freedoms, also to get away from the Catholic Church, which persecuted the saints. The trained Jesuit Catholic, who is Dr. Fauci, more than likely helped closed Protestant Churches around the world.