The Onion News Network has foreclosed on Alex Jones.

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Dude653

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Whether Alex Jones believes in Flat Earth or not (I didn't think he did?) $1.5B for hurting someone's feelings is excessive. Like, tyrannically excessive. Especially when Fauci is skipping around free after lie upon lie to the free world for four years (actually decades more) which caused (due to the stupidity of others) unprecedented economic destruction and death to millions.

Probably a few hundred dollars fine would have been more reasonable a penalty for Alex, or several retractions mentioning the court found he got it wrong during his ad breaks. But $1.5B? That's just corruption, plain and simple. And someone should go to gaol for it.

(Disclaimer: I don't really like Alex Jones. Sometimes, he has nuggets of information not yet in the mainstream which are usually many years old, and I find him quite amusing during his rants, but this case is about tyranny, not Alex Jones and some liberal tears).
Doubling down on this brain dead opinion again?
One of those families had to move 10 times because they were being harassed and threatened by Alex Jones minions.
What do you think is going to happen when someone goes on the radio and says people are lying about their children being killed and that they have an agenda to take people's guns away.
He had to have known this would be a direct incitation to violence
That goes Way beyond hurt feelings
Stop lying
 

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At the risk of being redundant, the point is to bankrupt him so he doesn't have a platform to do this to someone else
Because he will do it again because he's just that stupid
You never answered my question. Do you think you have the basis to sue someone because he used the word "Faux"?
 

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Doubling down on this brain dead opinion again?
One of those families had to move 10 times because they were being harassed and threatened by Alex Jones minions.
What do you think is going to happen when someone goes on the radio and says people are lying about their children being killed and that they have an agenda to take people's guns away.
He had to have known this would be a direct incitation to violence
That goes Way beyond hurt feelings
Stop lying
Are people allowed to have their own opinion or by law are we all required to speak the same thing and share the same opinion about this event?
 

Dude653

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Are people allowed to have their own opinion or by law are we all required to speak the same thing and share the same opinion about this event?
Opinion doesn't change facts.
Sandy Hook happened... fact
Alex Jones used his platform to slander the fame and harass grieving families....fact
Alex Jones lied multiple times on the witness stand. .. fact
Alex Jones lies incited harassment and threats....fact
Yes, certain individuals are jumping through hoops to defend Alex Jones. And you wonder why people don't like Christians
 

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Opinion doesn't change facts.
Sandy Hook happened... fact
Alex Jones used his platform to slander the fame and harass grieving families....fact
Alex Jones lied multiple times on the witness stand. .. fact
Alex Jones lies incited harassment and threats....fact
Yes, certain individuals are jumping through hoops to defend Alex Jones. And you wonder why people don't like Christians
You still have not answered my questions.

1. Can you sue the poster on this forum for using the word "faux"?

2. Is the law now making it illegal to have a different opinion about this event?
 

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You still have not answered my questions.

1. Can you sue the poster on this forum for using the word "faux"?

2. Is the law now making it illegal to have a different opinion about this event?
No, it's not illegal to have a different opinion just like it's not illegal for me to call this guy, a liar and a hypocrite for defending. Alex Jones
 

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No, it's not illegal to have a different opinion just like it's not illegal for me to call this guy, a liar and a hypocrite for defending. Alex Jones
OK, but surely you could sue him, no? Just like you could be sued for calling someone a liar. After all, that is what Alex Jones was sued for. So you are imitating the very one you claim to hate.
 

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OK, but surely you could sue him, no? Just like you could be sued for calling someone a liar. After all, that is what Alex Jones was sued for. So you are imitating the very one you claim to hate.
No. For a defamation lawsuit you need more than just being called a liar. You have to demonstrate in court that what the person said caused you damages like having to move 10 times because you were harassed by Alex Jones minions.
I know you're smarter than this. You used to be a teacher
 

ZNP

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No. For a defamation lawsuit you need more than just being called a liar. You have to demonstrate in court that what the person said caused you damages like having to move 10 times because you were harassed by Alex Jones minions.
I know you're smarter than this. You used to be a teacher
People who rely on their reputation can be harmed by being called a liar. Surely you are smarter than this.

Defamation law:
To win a defamation lawsuit, you must prove that the statement made about you was false, published to a third party, and caused harm to your reputation.
 

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People who rely on their reputation can be harmed by being called a liar. Surely you are smarter than this.

Defamation law:
To win a defamation lawsuit, you must prove that the statement made about you was false, published to a third party, and caused someone calling you a doo doo head to your reputation.
Yes and you have to prove that damage in court. You can't just Sue because someone hurt your feelings
So to say they sued over hurt feelings is a demonstrable lie
 

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Yes and you have to prove that damage in court. You can't just Sue because someone hurt your feelings
So to say they sued over hurt feelings is a demonstrable lie
He obviously has a difference of opinion, and by all means you can argue that his opinion is false and if you can prove it is a lie you are going to win a lawsuit about being sued for calling him a liar. But it is easy for him to prove you called him a liar, that it was published to a third party, and for most people being called a liar would be a damage to their reputation. Therefore he can sue you. Doesn't mean he will win. You in turn will have to prove to the court that you had proof that he was in fact lying.
 

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He obviously has a difference of opinion, and by all means you can argue that his opinion is false and if you can prove it is a lie you are going to win a lawsuit about being sued for calling him a liar. But it is easy for him to prove you called him a liar, that it was published to a third party, and for most people being called a liar would be a damage to their reputation. Therefore he can sue you. Doesn't mean he will win. You in turn will have to prove to the court that you had proof that he was in fact lying.
No because I can demonstrate that he's lying
 

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No because I can demonstrate that he's lying
That simply means you will win the lawsuit. A judge will not determine whether or not he was lying until you go to court. So then, yes, he can sue you.
 

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That simply means you will win the lawsuit. A judge will not determine whether or not he was lying until you go to court. So then, yes, he can sue you.
There's not a judge in America who would even entertain that lawsuit
 

ZNP

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There's not a judge in America who would even entertain that lawsuit
There are many, many judges who have entertained defamation lawsuits because the person was called a liar.

https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1657&context=iplj

The results have been mixed, sometimes they are found to have been defamatory, sometimes they have been found to be protected speech. But yes, judges have entertained these lawsuits repeatedly throughout history.