Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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We won't be able to get to that point.

It's over!

Nuclear winter is coming soon to your town. Not to mention all the other things that go with.
Do you not think that posting your privileged ATS (Above Top Secret) intel on a public message board is an extremely risky misadventure?
 

cv5

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We won't be able to get to that point.

It's over!

Nuclear winter is coming soon to your town. Not to mention all the other things that go with.
Understandably, you are sounding increasingly shrill and desperate, given the AFU counter-offensive failure.

I would urge you to keep a cool and level head and consider that peace negotiations will defuse this
supposed imminent nuclear war threat.

 

ZNP

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I have a suggestion, it will cost us less than $100 million and we won't lose any lives. How about we buy stylish, well made military uniforms in blue and yellow, and we give them to Russia as a peace offering? Then when they wear the uniforms we take pictures with out satellites and it will look like the counteroffiensive has swept through the Russian controlled land.
 

Gideon300

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If only it was going to be this simple and easy....

It isn't. Russia is bankrupt financially and is economically unviable. No money and no way to get any. They have spent ALL their capital possibilities by their actions.
No one is going to invest in Russia.

Meaning we are going to have 1,000s of nuclear weapons up for grabs without any government to stop them. Meanwhile the Russian men that are left are going to be the organized crime syndicates in the irradiated scorched earth that's left behind.

Yeahoo....fun times.
Maybe. There will be nothing much left to fight over. My navy job required me to study nuclear war as I was responsible for decontamination and the radiation detection equipment. One of the effects of even a tiny nuclear bomb, such as those dropped on Japan, is that the survivors were completely shattered and helpless. Now it is called PTSD. That's apart from severe injury, sickness, loss of medical facilities and access to clean food and water. I can't imagine the effects of a modern nuke. I'd rather not think about it.
 

Gideon300

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Understandably, you are sounding increasingly shrill and desperate, given the AFU counter-offensive failure.

I would urge you to keep a cool and level head and consider that peace negotiations will defuse this
supposed imminent nuclear war threat.

There will be no peace negotiations. Putin is utterly untrustworthy. Negotiation only works when both sides have at least modicum of good faith.
 

cv5

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There will be no peace negotiations. Putin is utterly untrustworthy. Negotiation only works when both sides have at least modicum of good faith.
What you have just demonstrated is.......your own bad faith. :censored:
 

ZNP

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RED ALERT!!! MEGA MISSILE STRIKE - OPERATION RESCUE SEARCH TAKING PLACE - BUILDINGS LEVELED


800 killed
 

ZNP

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Thats exactly what I have been hearing......15K to 20K casualties so far in the AFU counter-offensive.

Remember.....the USA lost a TOTAL of 58K soldiers during the entire Vietnam conflict.

Yes, Ukraine does not seem to be doing too well, but at least look on the bright side, Biden says that Putin is losing the war in Iraq.
 

JohnDB

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There will be no peace negotiations. Putin is utterly untrustworthy. Negotiation only works when both sides have at least modicum of good faith.
From the reports I'm hearing....

It is getting increasingly difficult to keep Poland out of this conflict....as well as France. PRC is looking to make a land grab now that Russia has moved their border guards to Ukraine. (Russia had taken it to begin with)
Kaliningrad is isolated more and more every day.

Syria is becoming increasingly more unstable as Russia has a "come apart".
And Iran is busy trying to pick a fight with anyone....including themselves if need be.
The Euphrates River is bone dry by the time it reaches the gulf. The water is pumped out and used for everything from nuclear reactors to farming. Which is something else that is fought over. Yeah....just one of those things.

I don't see us having a long future or legacy anymore.
 

cv5

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From the reports I'm hearing....

It is getting increasingly difficult to keep Poland out of this conflict....as well as France. PRC is looking to make a land grab now that Russia has moved their border guards to Ukraine. (Russia had taken it to begin with)
Kaliningrad is isolated more and more every day.

Syria is becoming increasingly more unstable as Russia has a "come apart".
And Iran is busy trying to pick a fight with anyone....including themselves if need be.
The Euphrates River is bone dry by the time it reaches the gulf. The water is pumped out and used for everything from nuclear reactors to farming. Which is something else that is fought over. Yeah....just one of those things.

I don't see us having a long future or legacy anymore.
Oh is that so? Well, such an outcome is perfectly predicable.
Because the warmongers obstinately, duplicitously and murderously demanded escalation.

On the other hand, if good-faith peace negotiations were not DENIED AND DEFUSED in 2022, this war would have been over long ago, lives would have been saved, and Ukraine would most probably be rebuilt by now.

So then.....to all those with a hardened heart:
Drink deeply the cup of wrath and regret that you have yourself so foolishly filled up to the brim.

As for me, there is NO BLOOD on my hands. None. I have been calling for peace since this war began.
 

cv5

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The bitter fruit of escalation indeed. Evidently, Russia has recently procured a fully intact Storm Shadow cruise missile as well.
This will also go to Iran for reverse engineering.

Stupid stupid stupid.

End this war. Immediately. Before things become infinitely worse.

 

ZNP

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Oh is that so? Well, such an outcome is perfectly predicable.
Because the warmongers obstinately, duplicitously and murderously demanded escalation.

On the other hand, if good-faith peace negotiations were not DENIED AND DEFUSED in 2022, this war would have been over long ago, lives would have been saved, and Ukraine would most probably be rebuilt by now.

So then.....to all those with a hardened heart:
Drink deeply the cup of wrath and regret that you have yourself so foolishly filled up to the brim.

As for me, there is NO BLOOD on my hands. None. I have been calling for peace since this war began.
Two effective strategies that lead to peace.

1. Have a great diplomat like Teddy Roosevelt negotiate a peace treaty that works for both parties.

or

2. Kill everyone, R.I.P.
 

cv5

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Two effective strategies that lead to peace.

1. Have a great diplomat like Teddy Roosevelt negotiate a peace treaty that works for both parties.

or

2. Kill everyone, R.I.P.
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PennEd

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Oh is that so? Well, such an outcome is perfectly predicable.
Because the warmongers obstinately, duplicitously and murderously demanded escalation.

On the other hand, if good-faith peace negotiations were not DENIED AND DEFUSED in 2022, this war would have been over long ago, lives would have been saved, and Ukraine would most probably be rebuilt by now.

So then.....to all those with a hardened heart:
Drink deeply the cup of wrath and regret that you have yourself so foolishly filled up to the brim.

As for me, there is NO BLOOD on my hands. None. I have been calling for peace since this war began.
We need to step back, and not look at these Global, and even national events as separate problems to fix. EVERYTHING that is happening, not just the War, but CBDCs, BRICS, Inflation, LGBTQ going after even children, fake and real virus's etc... are ALL interrelated to the implementation of their Marxist Great Reset, by destroying the culture and culling and enslaving surviving humanity.

Putin, Trump, Biden, Trudeau, Macron, Xi, etc.. are ALL in on it!

Putin is a Schwab protege. Here he is just several months before "being instructed" (I think) to invade Ukraine. So things are going to get much worse on every level until the AC is revealed:

https://rumble.com/vvwn8k-klaus-schwab-and-vladimir-putin-at-wef-2021-meeting.html
 

ZNP

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We need to step back, and not look at these Global, and even national events as separate problems to fix. EVERYTHING that is happening, not just the War, but CBDCs, BRICS, Inflation, LGBTQ going after even children, fake and real virus's etc... are ALL interrelated to the implementation of their Marxist Great Reset, by destroying the culture and culling and enslaving surviving humanity.
I have emphasized this word "their" because of their own selves they can do nothing unless the Lord allows it.

The tribulation is allowed by the Lord for a purpose. It is like summer school for Christians who were sleeping when the rapture takes place and were not ready. They get a refresher course on why we need to be able to discern counterfeit Christs, they get to see first hand how wars, famines, and plagues are used to seize power by the satanic worldly leaders, and they see first hand how those who would stand against these evil rulers are martyred and vilified. One way or another you will have to stand against these ones, you can do it now, or you can compromise, sit on the fence like Humpty Dumpty, and then you will have to do it during the tribulation when the Lord is making an omelet, and you can't do that without breaking a few eggs.
 

ZNP

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This bears being reposted, the OP of this topic since all have come a long way through the Russian dread Winter and the Ukrainian Spring and are nearing our own July 4th indeed though America is not in the war, we have contributed significantly as a faithful ally and faithful to our words and promises to Ukraine, which same promises be mindful are the same ones Evil Russia transgressed, how their word means nothing. Cliche' as it is, months later, would you believe all these questions and musings could be answered, and that the answer, especially to the question of dislodging Wicked Putin, and even his entire principality, is indeed a Living God named Jesus?

We see proofs daily that God destroys Unholy Russia on one hand so highly that for them really they have not seen losses like this since the Russian Revolution that inaugurated their Evil principality (Ephesians 6:12). By the might of the other hand our God is like a strong shield and sends winds of refreshments to the Good Guys of Ukraine. The one and only True and Fatihful God will simultaenously defend the Truth and slaughter the servants of the Liar. Indeed to the last point, watch and know all nations that there is indeed a God that is real and alive and active and powerful and strong and an avenger of the good guys and a bane of the villains; both a faithful defender; an unconquerable warrior and even a third, an infallible strategist, he is even Jesus, and he will win this war and you will not be able to deny that he is God when you see him wipe Unholy Russia, Serfdom Of Satan, out of existence in its entirety even into the spiritual realm. Ukraine also will be defended and will not succumb to be victims again to Wicked Russia's intent to enslave them, especially for a bunch of lies for Jesus shall save them. PRAISE JESUS!