Understanding and Recognizing Propaganda

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zone

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The Story of Propaganda

The fact that wars give rise to intensive propaganda campaigns has made many persons suppose that propaganda is something new and modern. The word itself came into common use in this country as late as 1914, when World War I began. The truth is, however, that propaganda is not new and modern. Nobody would make the mistake of assuming that it is new if, from early times, efforts to mobilize attitudes and opinions had actually been called “propaganda.” The battle for men’s minds is as old as human history.

What is Propaganda?: The Story of Propaganda < click
 

zone

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Adam Curtis: The Century of the Self

[video=vimeo;61857758]http://vimeo.com/61857758[/video] < click

Adam Curtis' acclaimed series examines the rise of the all-consuming self against the backdrop of the Freud dynasty.

To many in both politics and business, the triumph of the self is the ultimate expression of democracy, where power has finally moved to the people. Certainly the people may feel they are in charge, but are they really? The Century of the Self tells the untold and sometimes controversial story of the growth of the mass-consumer society in Britain and the United States. How was the all-consuming self created, by whom, and in whose interests?

The Freud dynasty is at the heart of this compelling social history. Sigmund Freud, founder of psychoanalysis; Edward Bernays, who invented public relations; Anna Freud, Sigmund's devoted daughter; and present-day PR guru and Sigmund's great grandson, Matthew Freud.

Sigmund Freud's work into the bubbling and murky world of the subconscious changed the world. By introducing a technique to probe the unconscious mind, Freud provided useful tools for understanding the secret desires of the masses. Unwittingly, his work served as the precursor to a world full of political spin doctors, marketing moguls, and society's belief that the pursuit of satisfaction and happiness is man's ultimate goal.

For the most crucial 2.5 minutes of the astounding Adam Curtis documentary watch
youtube.com/watch?v=s18vu5tCzsc&feature=player_embedded

....this video is disappearing from YouTube - supposedly copyright by BBC.
find a way to view this vid.

these guys are serious.
 

zone

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Propaganda Quotes

Propaganda by Edward L. Bernays


“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

“The public is not cognizant of the real value of education, and does not realize that education as a social force is not receiving the kind of attention it has the right to expect in a democracy.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

“But being dependent, every day of the year and for year after year, upon certain politicians for news, the newspaper reporters are obliged to work in harmony with their news sources.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

“The great enemy of any attempt to change men's habits is inertia. Civilization is limited by intertia.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

“Universal literacy was supposed to educate the common man to control his environment. Once he could read and write he would have a mind fit to rule. So ran the democratic doctrine. But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given him rubber stamps, rubber stamps inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of the tabloids and the platitudes of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man's rubber stamps are the duplicates of millions of others, so that when those millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. It may seem an exaggeration to say that the American public gets most of its ideas in this wholesale fashion. The mechanism by which ideas are disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of an organized effort to spread a particular belief or doctrine.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

“Modern business must have its finger continuously on the public pulse. It must understand the changes in the public mind and be prepared to interpret itself fairly and eloquently to changing opinion.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

“It is asked whether, in fact, the leader makes propaganda, or whether propaganda makes the leader. There is a widespread impression that a good press agent can puff up a nobody into a great man.

The answer is the same as that made to the old query as to whether the newspaper makes public opinion or whether public opinion makes the newspaper. There has to be fertile ground for the leader and the idea to fall on. But the leader also has to have some vital seed to sow. To use another figure, a mutual need has to exist before either can become positively effective. Propaganda is of no use to the politician unless he has something to say which the public, consciously or unconsciously, wants to hear.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

Propaganda Quotes By Edward L. Bernays < click
 
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I recently cracked open a book about the Founding Era by Gordon S. Wood. His contention was that the Founding Fathers will never be replicated again due to the rise of the egalitarian democracy they set up.

While I contest the claim that their true legacy is egalitarian democracy, he has something right: true education, education that benefits the soul as well as the mind is a product of a bygone era. A more aristocratic age as it were.

Egalitarian democracy begs for a watered down education of sorts. What is diluted education if not propaganda?

The traditionalist conservative within me is always plagued by questions such as this.
 

homwardbound

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The Story of Propaganda

The fact that wars give rise to intensive propaganda campaigns has made many persons suppose that propaganda is something new and modern. The word itself came into common use in this country as late as 1914, when World War I began. The truth is, however, that propaganda is not new and modern. Nobody would make the mistake of assuming that it is new if, from early times, efforts to mobilize attitudes and opinions had actually been called “propaganda.” The battle for men’s minds is as old as human history.

What is Propaganda?: The Story of Propaganda < click
Ecclesiastes 1:9The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
 
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hehe they finally created a forum just for you zone :D
 

crossnote

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hehe they finally created a forum just for you zone :D
Actually I think it kind of sad. It's like a quarantine room or an Indian reservation.

Hey Zone, where does B.F. Skinner fit into all this 'propanda' agenda?
 

maxwel

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Actually I think it kind of sad. It's like a quarantine room or an Indian reservation.

Hey Zone, where does B.F. Skinner fit into all this 'propanda' agenda?
That was really funny.
: )
 

zone

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B.F. Skinner is a behavioral psychologist who became famous for his work with rats using his "Skinner Box". He took the extreme liberty of transferring his experience and theories of rats directly to human beings. It should be kept in mind that rats and people are tremendously different creatures, yet Skinner had no problem with easily assuming what was true for rats, on a very simple scale, would be applicable to human beings in very different and complex situations.



Mr. & Mrs., Skinner view daughter Debbie in a Skinner Box


crossnote maybe the idea is like an indian reservation....isolation; observation and ultimately behavior modification.
Skinner just another soul-less crackpot who is still lauded by the controllers.
 
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it has been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that scientists cause cancer in labratory rats
 

crossnote

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B.F. Skinner is a behavioral psychologist who became famous for his work with rats using his "Skinner Box". He took the extreme liberty of transferring his experience and theories of rats directly to human beings. It should be kept in mind that rats and people are tremendously different creatures, yet Skinner had no problem with easily assuming what was true for rats, on a very simple scale, would be applicable to human beings in very different and complex situations.



Mr. & Mrs., Skinner view daughter Debbie in a Skinner Box


crossnote maybe the idea is like an indian reservation....isolation; observation and ultimately behavior modification.
Skinner just another soul-less crackpot who is still lauded by the controllers.
Well when we become thoroughly propagandized they then can treat us like rats...bells,whistles and all :)
 

homwardbound

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That is what this world is after is Control of the Humans, by psychological conditioning of fear. It starts by using bells and whistles, rewards for good behavior and not for bad. And we psychologically respond to this through emotions, and become decieved, Mix emotions and truth, you end up in part truth and remain in bondage as I am as a lot are learning to trust God to show us each how to overcome or we are too busy in the energy of our self's trying to obey and are frustrated to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What point?
There is a movie from a while back, starred Clint Eastwood, movie Magnum Force. At the end there was a quote stated by Clint Eastwood,when he said as he was walking away, "a man has got to know his own limitations"
 
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jerusalem

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momnopolies and compliments are at the heart of propadanda and propadanda may as well be called what it really is advertising.
 

zone

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NDAA 2013: Congress approves domestic deceptive propaganda

May 22, 2012 17:03

Reauthorizing the indefinite detention of US citizens without charge might be the scariest provision in next year’s defense spending bill, but it certainly isn’t the only one worth worrying about.

An amendment tagged on the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 would allow for the United States government to create and distribute pro-American propaganda within the country’s own borders under the alleged purpose of putting al-Qaeda’s attempts at persuading the world against Western ideals on ice. Former US representatives went out of there way to ensure their citizens that they’d be excluded from government-created media blasts, but two lawmakers currently serving the country are looking to change all that.

Congressmen Mac Thornberry (R-TX) and Adam Smith (D-WA) introduced “The Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012” (H.R. 5736) last week during discussions for the NDAA 2013. It was voted on by the US House of Representatives to be included in next year’s defense spending bill, which was then voted on as a whole and approved. The amendment updates the antiquated Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1987, essentially clarifying that the US State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors may “prepare, disseminate and use public diplomacy information abroad,” but while also striking down a long-lasting ban on the domestic dissemination in America.

NDAA 2013: Congress approves domestic deceptive propaganda — RT USA
 

zone

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momnopolies and compliments are at the heart of propadanda and propadanda may as well be called what it really is advertising.
true, dat.

and we might as well go large in our definition.

it's all Corporatism (Global).


Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.
- Benito Mussolini
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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Well when we become thoroughly propagandized they then can treat us like rats...bells,whistles and all :)
But don't forget the cheese! :D