Vaccinated Workers Are Getting Benefits That Those Without Covid Shots Won’t

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Israel’s new rules show how the world will be much smaller for those without vaccines.


If you’ve got a green pass on your wrist showing you’ve been vaccinated, the office is your oyster at Israeli cybersecurity company Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.


You can get treatments at the hair salon on the second floor, use the on-site gym and access game rooms with Playstations, billiards and ping pong tables, among other perks.

If you don’t have proof of either vaccination or recent recovery from Covid-19, however, work is a little more bleak. No using the facilities. Eat only at your desk, instead of with your co-workers. By April, you will have to show a negative Covid test before being allowed into the building.


“We’re not shaming anyone. We’re not pointing fingers. We are just saying, ‘This will be our policy,’” company spokesman Gil Messing said. “If you get the vaccination, you get benefits that others do not.”

As the country with the highest vaccination penetration rate on the globe, Israeli businesses are the first to grapple with thorny issues about those who decide to refuse vaccines. There’s increasing talk of similar practices around the world as people in more nations get vaccinated.

The questions aren’t just about who gets to travel or sit in a movie theater. Businesses are considering whether to require employees to get vaccinated to continue working. In New York, a waitress was already fired by her restaurant after refusing to immediately take the vaccine.

In Israel, business are being assisted by a system being rolled out by the government that allows access to gyms, theaters and restaurants for vaccinated people or those recently recovering from the virus. Other countries are considering similar measures that would create a two-tiered social structure, blocking unvaccinated people from some everyday activities in an attempt to both get life back to normal and encourage people to get the vaccine.

U.S. President Joe Biden in January ordered members of his cabinet to assess the feasibility of creating an electronic vaccine certificate. New York is starting to test a system at sports venues like Madison Square Garden and the Barclays Center. In the U.K., Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government is reviewing the use of a domestic vaccination pass, though conclusions aren’t expected until June.

Discussions are far less advanced in places like Australia and Hong Kong where the virus is well under control and activities like eating out are already possible — albeit with a mandatory QR code sign in. For China and much of Asia, the main focus is whether vaccine passports might be able to jump start international travel.



Proof of vaccination has been a cross-border requirement in some form for years, notably for yellow fever. What is unusual is the idea of restricting everyday activities at home or at work depending on your vaccination status.

Right now, Check Point’s policy applies just to its 2,400 employees in Israel, but it may become a template for its locations in 60 other countries worldwide, Messing said. The company estimates that less than 10% of its Israeli employees aren’t vaccinated, and they’ve only heard complaints about their policies from about three or four people, he said.

Oshi Nidam, 39, a purchasing manager at Check Point, says he feels more confident seeing people with the green bracelets while sitting in meetings or walking down the hallway. “You feel you are more safe, you feel that your health is not in danger,” he said. “I don’t know everyone personally at Check Point, but I didn’t hear of anyone who has had a negative feeling about it.”

In the U.S., most of Check Point’s employees aren’t even eligible yet for the vaccine, Messing said.

Engel has seen some resentment from people who are cut out of some activities. But he also thinks the pressure will prompt more people to get the shot.

“It may push people to get the vaccine, even people who are against it, just because we’re continuing on with our life and they’re not able to,” he said. “It’s going to become a regular, normal part of life — for now.”

Original Article : bloomberg



To correct the Article this is not consider a traditional vaccine , but more in line with gene editing ...

Conspiracy theory ???​
 

TheIndianGirl

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I think things like this will happen if you live in a liberal place at least for the next couple of years or so. However, if you live in a rural conservative place you may not experience this, until you decide to visit a liberal city/ country.
 

Runningman

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Israel’s new rules show how the world will be much smaller for those without vaccines.


If you’ve got a green pass on your wrist showing you’ve been vaccinated, the office is your oyster at Israeli cybersecurity company Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.


You can get treatments at the hair salon on the second floor, use the on-site gym and access game rooms with Playstations, billiards and ping pong tables, among other perks.

If you don’t have proof of either vaccination or recent recovery from Covid-19, however, work is a little more bleak. No using the facilities. Eat only at your desk, instead of with your co-workers. By April, you will have to show a negative Covid test before being allowed into the building.


“We’re not shaming anyone. We’re not pointing fingers. We are just saying, ‘This will be our policy,’” company spokesman Gil Messing said. “If you get the vaccination, you get benefits that others do not.”

As the country with the highest vaccination penetration rate on the globe, Israeli businesses are the first to grapple with thorny issues about those who decide to refuse vaccines. There’s increasing talk of similar practices around the world as people in more nations get vaccinated.

The questions aren’t just about who gets to travel or sit in a movie theater. Businesses are considering whether to require employees to get vaccinated to continue working. In New York, a waitress was already fired by her restaurant after refusing to immediately take the vaccine.

In Israel, business are being assisted by a system being rolled out by the government that allows access to gyms, theaters and restaurants for vaccinated people or those recently recovering from the virus. Other countries are considering similar measures that would create a two-tiered social structure, blocking unvaccinated people from some everyday activities in an attempt to both get life back to normal and encourage people to get the vaccine.

U.S. President Joe Biden in January ordered members of his cabinet to assess the feasibility of creating an electronic vaccine certificate. New York is starting to test a system at sports venues like Madison Square Garden and the Barclays Center. In the U.K., Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government is reviewing the use of a domestic vaccination pass, though conclusions aren’t expected until June.

Discussions are far less advanced in places like Australia and Hong Kong where the virus is well under control and activities like eating out are already possible — albeit with a mandatory QR code sign in. For China and much of Asia, the main focus is whether vaccine passports might be able to jump start international travel.



Proof of vaccination has been a cross-border requirement in some form for years, notably for yellow fever. What is unusual is the idea of restricting everyday activities at home or at work depending on your vaccination status.

Right now, Check Point’s policy applies just to its 2,400 employees in Israel, but it may become a template for its locations in 60 other countries worldwide, Messing said. The company estimates that less than 10% of its Israeli employees aren’t vaccinated, and they’ve only heard complaints about their policies from about three or four people, he said.

Oshi Nidam, 39, a purchasing manager at Check Point, says he feels more confident seeing people with the green bracelets while sitting in meetings or walking down the hallway. “You feel you are more safe, you feel that your health is not in danger,” he said. “I don’t know everyone personally at Check Point, but I didn’t hear of anyone who has had a negative feeling about it.”

In the U.S., most of Check Point’s employees aren’t even eligible yet for the vaccine, Messing said.

Engel has seen some resentment from people who are cut out of some activities. But he also thinks the pressure will prompt more people to get the shot.

“It may push people to get the vaccine, even people who are against it, just because we’re continuing on with our life and they’re not able to,” he said. “It’s going to become a regular, normal part of life — for now.”

Original Article : bloomberg



To correct the Article this is not consider a traditional vaccine , but more in line with gene editing ...

Conspiracy theory ???​
I don't think that will fly in the US, at least not after people sue for equal protection violations.

People with the vaccine can still get sick, and the shots are not even fully effective until two to three weeks afterwards. At least the article said that the long-term viability is still unknown. So the vaccine isn't about a cure, but about social control?

Also, they claim no punishment, but that is exactly what is happening to the unvaccinated.

Using a cyber security company as an example makes me think that other businesses are not playing along. They picked the one compliant example and made it seem like the norm when in fact it is not. (yet?)

Then they haven't shown any examples of companies being rebellious to vaccine mandates.

This is just propaganda used to push a pro-vaccine narrative.
 

TheIndianGirl

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I have had ZOOM office meetings and most of my coworkers were clear that they do not want to sit next to someone who isn't vaccinated. There is already a stigma going around people who are being quiet when discussing vaccines such as a Jehovah Witness coworker.
 

TheIndianGirl

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Right now, most people at my work at teleworking full-time but some are still entering the building. Every time someone gets COVID, we are sent a mass email to avoid a certain section of a floor, and other sections where that person may have gone, for a few days to allow time for deep cleaning. We have already been told that masks will be required whenever we go back to the building.
 

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If you’ve got a green pass on your wrist showing you’ve been vaccinated, the office is your oyster at Israeli cybersecurity company Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
Who would have thought that Israel would become Fascist after the Holocaust wiped out millions?
 

Nehemiah6

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Every time someone gets COVID...
It is not "every time someone gets COVID" but every time there is a FALSE POSTIVE PCR test. The majority of PCR tests are false positives but absolutely no one is admitting this or doing something about it. And even if there were a genuine positive, that does not automatically mean that the person is sick or will start showing symptoms. The majority of those who may even test actually positive are asymptomatic. When means that they have developed herd immunity.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Now we have the opportunity to practise resistance. Can we stand against evil no matter what it costs us?
Despite friends, family & even possibly our churches pressuring us to give in?
"for the greater good"
 

tanakh

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If an individual decides to risk death or serious illness by not being vaccinated its their prerogative.
Its also an individuals prerogative not to risk the same by mixing with those people.
 

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If an individual decides to risk death or serious illness by not being vaccinated its their prerogative.
Its also an individuals prerogative not to risk the same by mixing with those people.
True, but to deny benefits to those who don't? Why not build facilities for both, and they can stay away from each other and both enjoy the benefits?

Sadly, this is the beginning of the end of 'normal' as we know it. Either comply, or further down the road you will be 'exempt' from society. One World Government coming soon.....
 

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I don't think that will fly in the US, at least not after people sue for equal protection violations.

People with the vaccine can still get sick, and the shots are not even fully effective until two to three weeks afterwards. At least the article said that the long-term viability is still unknown. So the vaccine isn't about a cure, but about social control?

Also, they claim no punishment, but that is exactly what is happening to the unvaccinated.

Using a cyber security company as an example makes me think that other businesses are not playing along. They picked the one compliant example and made it seem like the norm when in fact it is not. (yet?)

Then they haven't shown any examples of companies being rebellious to vaccine mandates.

This is just propaganda used to push a pro-vaccine narrative.

Me thinks this is an example of things to come globally. Why not use the covid as a reason to have governments around the world get their people to comply with measures such as in the article on a larger scale, with the benefits being much greater? Those who vaccinate get to go to stores, public events/venues, eat out, ride public transit, etc....while those who do not, get left out.

We have known for years about the coming One World Government, false prophet, beast and mark of the beast. What better way to usher all that in by seeing how far people can be pushed, and just how much government can control the masses? Tell them they must do this and that, or else.....

It's coming, and this is a prime measure to gauge things.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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If the vaccine was actually a vaccine, people who have it wouldn't be risking anything.
Still living in fear after you've had it is only proof that you have no confidence in it.


Manipulating others to be inoculated with something that is known not to work is irrational.
 

Jackson123

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Me thinks this is an example of things to come globally. Why not use the covid as a reason to have governments around the world get their people to comply with measures such as in the article on a larger scale, with the benefits being much greater? Those who vaccinate get to go to stores, public events/venues, eat out, ride public transit, etc....while those who do not, get left out.

We have known for years about the coming One World Government, false prophet, beast and mark of the beast. What better way to usher all that in by seeing how far people can be pushed, and just how much government can control the masses? Tell them they must do this and that, or else.....

It's coming, and this is a prime measure to gauge things.
I was read one of Jesuit strategy to create one world government is to create the need of working together.

Create reason that we need unity to face the same enemy.

God want unity for the good, Jesuit need unity to take control all nation.

They work in secret to create one government under Jesus as King of king represented by Pope, because pope is God on earth
 

Runningman

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This is funny. Apparently someone thinks that the same people that think the vaccine is a good idea would also think that eating donuts every day is a good idea. Does the vax protect from diabetes too?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/krispy-kreme-free-doughnut-every-day-2021-covid-19-vaccination-card/
Sadly, this sort of propaganda actually works on people.

Is the covid-19 vaccination card something people will start flashing to merchants in order to buy or sell? Obviously we aren't quite there yet, but it's looking like it.

Also, have you seen any copies of the vaccination card? How do they verify which ones are real or forged. They can't until they digitize it and authenticate individuals in a central database.

They can make this work easily with an app and smartphones.