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ZNP

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We are the first and only generation that has seen all these things that will be global

Global travel (Daniel)

Global knowledge (Daniel)

Global weather awareness (Luke)

Revelation 11 -- whole world will be communicating

Global evangelism

Global TV -- they'll all see the two witnesses killed and celebrate it in real time

Digital money -- MOTB

Global tracking -- MOTB

Weapons that could wipe out all humans

Global peace, prosperity, hatred for the Jews.

Global pandemic

When all these things become birth pains -- greater frequency, intensity and visibility --

Hebrews 10:24-25 Exhorting one another and so much the more as you see the day approaching -- the purpose of prophecy, motivate us, exhort us. To stir up others to love and good works.
 

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Russia accuses Ukraine of using/making Cyanide gas, Ukraine accuses Russia of using tear gas, and both deny accusations.



Gravitas | Russia Releases Video 'chemical Weapons Lab' in Advika | Bioweapons in Ukraine | WION
 

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Was it the first shot of the second civil war?
 

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NATO continues poking the bear.





EU Will Be Victim...” Russia Can “Deter” US Long-Range Missiles | France Won’t “Enter” War: Macron
 

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Putin Ally Says Russia Should "Erase" Ukraine | US-Led NATO "Unprepared" To Defend Europe
 

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It would have been a simple matter to have blocked the view of the stage from that roof with a few balloons.
Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but how does someone get on a roof top with a rifle, and not alert the secret service?

At the very least, the head of security needs to get fired. Poor planning. I'm pretty sure, I would of done a better job of planning a proper protection plan with a year of training.

Put up some bullet proof glass windows in front of Trump, at the very least. By the way, I'm not really a fan of Trump, but he should get better Secret Service Protection.



This is probably the best shot of Trump's ear. From other reports, it told that the bullet nipped his upper right ear. The really red spot on the upper side of his ear, is supposedly where the damage is done. Very little damage.
 

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Put up some bullet proof glass windows in front of Trump, at the very least. By the way, I'm not really a fan of Trump, but he should get better Secret Service Protection.
Yeah, that's retrospective and then public perception.
That's how the Pope travels. In an armored car with bulleproof glass. I saw the pope back in early 90s in a bulletproof glass car. I think the Pope has better protection than an American president after Pope John Paul the second was shot back in the 80s.

But the problem with this is public perception.
Would you want an American Presidential nominee to look like he's isolated and out of touch with 99% of us, or do you want him to appear more like us the common people? On Jan6 Trump did have a bulleproof glass in front of him. I thought that was wise but maybe Trump didn't like that?
These are the decisions that the public speakers and politicians have to make and have to dance a very delicate dance with public perception and retrospect.

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Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but how does someone get on a roof top with a rifle, and not alert the secret service?

At the very least, the head of security needs to get fired. Poor planning. I'm pretty sure, I would of done a better job of planning a proper protection plan with a year of training.

Put up some bullet proof glass windows in front of Trump, at the very least. By the way, I'm not really a fan of Trump, but he should get better Secret Service Protection.



This is probably the best shot of Trump's ear. From other reports, it told that the bullet nipped his upper right ear. The really red spot on the upper side of his ear, is supposedly where the damage is done. Very little damage.
I don't know precisely how he got up there so I will simply hypothesize. First, he wasn't wearing a MAGA hat nor was he your typical mom complaining at a school board meeting so he didn't fit the profile of a domestic terrorist or white supremacist. Then I suspected he disarmed the Secret Service agents by asking how many yards to where Trump was standing, they love talking shop and showing off their knowledge. After that he probably asked how to get up on the roof and they pointed him to the ladder but warned that the roof was sloped and so was too dangerous for them.
 

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Yeah, that's retrospective and then public perception.
That's how the Pope travels. In an armored car with bulleproof glass. I saw the pope back in early 90s in a bulletproof glass car. I think the Pope has better protection than an American president after Pope John Paul the second was shot back in the 80s.

But the problem with this is public perception.
Would you want an American Presidential nominee to look like he's isolated and out of touch with 99% of us, or do you want him to appear more like us the common people? On Jan6 Trump did have a bulleproof glass in front of him. I thought that was wise but maybe Trump didn't like that?
These are the decisions that the public speakers and politicians have to make and have to dance a very delicate dance with public perception and retrospect.

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I'm not sure we see things the same, but I will say, I hope the Trump team can improve security moving forward.
 

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I don't know precisely how he got up there so I will simply hypothesize. First, he wasn't wearing a MAGA hat nor was he your typical mom complaining at a school board meeting so he didn't fit the profile of a domestic terrorist or white supremacist. Then I suspected he disarmed the Secret Service agents by asking how many yards to where Trump was standing, they love talking shop and showing off their knowledge. After that he probably asked how to get up on the roof and they pointed him to the ladder but warned that the roof was sloped and so was too dangerous for them.
lol

Ahh ZNP, if you say so...

I would love to have a hearing on the slip of secret service. Nevermind...

Was there a hearing of the secret service on the JFK murder?!?! Talk about the untouchables.
 

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Ahh ZNP, if you say so...

I would love to have a hearing on the slip of secret service. Nevermind...

Was there a hearing of the secret service on the JFK murder?!?! Talk about the untouchables.
See post 624 in Assassination attempt of Trump.
 

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I'm not sure we see things the same, but I will say, I hope the Trump team can improve security moving forward.
Agreed. There is always a "lesson learned" after every major event. This is why security is not the same anymore as it was before JFK got shot and it's also why you can't even bring liquids or box cutters in an airplane anymore.
 

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Agreed. There is always a "lesson learned" after every major event. This is why security is not the same anymore as it was before JFK got shot and it's also why you can't even bring liquids or box cutters in an airplane anymore.
But rifles and range finders are ok?
 

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But rifles and range finders are ok?
Yeah, in New Hampshire you can carry an AR15 in your shoulder while buying ice cream. You can walk around in tactical gear.
It's just another day in USA.
 

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Yeah, in New Hampshire you can carry an AR15 in your shoulder while buying ice cream. You can walk around in tactical gear.
It's just another day in USA.
At a political rally?
 

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At a political rally?
Yeah.
It happened when Obama was campaigning. Some New Hamshpire dude was chilling with his pistol on the side of his leg and his AR on his shoulder and the liberal media made a big deal of this back then.
How come you don't know this?