Weather warfare "geo-engineering"

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For people who don't think the government would secretly spray chemicals on it's citizens.
[video=youtube;wHsANVREF0o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHsANVREF0o[/video]
Is'nt this what caused Agent Orange? Or was that something else? Just when you think the obummer-ment can't sink any lower into it's feces pile....This is what your glorious country does!! I'd rethink the premise of "proud to be an American"!! :/ This was a good video. Thank you deadtosin. :)
 
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A 1997 study done by the U.S. National Research Council stated, in part, "After an exhaustive, independent review requested by Congress, we have found no evidence that exposure to zinc cadmium sulfide at these levels could cause people to become sick." It said that the material was dispersed at very low levels, and people were exposed to higher levels in typical urban environments.

The U.S. government definitely overstepped its boundaries on that one. They should have restricted that test to volunteer U.S. military personnel; however, it was innocuous.




For people who don't think the government would secretly spray chemicals on it's citizens.
[video=youtube;wHsANVREF0o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHsANVREF0o[/video]
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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The History Channel is notorious for its many factual historical, scientific, and epistemological errors. I've seen documentaries claiming a supernova occurred in China to Jesus lived in India and was married lolol. It's pretty much a 24/7 stream of misinformation with some truth mixed into programs like Ancient Aliens, UFO Hunters, Brad Meltzer's Decoded and the Nostradamus Effect. Their HAARP program was no exception.

I laughed when the Weather Channel and Accuweather were interviewed and they stated empathically that not only were world governments not controlling the weather but that it was "crazy" to state they are.

The only controlling being done is by HAARP conspiracy nut jobs with respect to their followers... lol.


History channel on HAARP
 
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The History Channel is notorious for its many factual historical, scientific, and epistemological errors. I've seen documentaries claiming a supernova occurred in China to Jesus lived in India and was married lolol. It's pretty much a 24/7 stream of misinformation with some truth mixed into programs like Ancient Aliens, UFO Hunters, Brad Meltzer's Decoded and the Nostradamus Effect. Their HAARP program was no exception.

I laughed when the Weather Channel and Accuweather were interviewed and they stated empathically that not only were world governments not controlling the weather but that it was "crazy" to state they are.

The only controlling being done is by HAARP conspiracy nut jobs with respect to their followers... lol.

Okay, come here and listen to this scientist from NASA explain to a caller that they are spraying lithium and there are many kinds of chemtrails they are spraying. You will even here his "story" as to why they do it.[video]http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/nasa-admits-chemtrails/[/video]
 
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Sorry friend but geoengineeringwatch.org is a personal website of a non-college graduate who was a building contractor out here and the phone call doesn't prove any conspiracy about HAARP or chemtrails.

Here's the guy: Bio - Douglas E Rowland

He's talking about a sounding rocket fired into the upper atmosphere to study the winds on the edge of space. It's something they have done for decades. It's totally unrelated to airplane contrails, and nothing at all like what people call "chemtrails."

Here's NASA's description of the program:
Sounding Rockets | NASA

Here's a 1964 description of a similar experiment. As NASA says this is nothing new, and it's nothing secret.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=sekcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=11gEAAAAIBAJ&dq=nasa sounding rocket lithium&pg=5885,4057829

More nonsense.
 
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the phone call doesn't prove any conspiracy about HAARP or chemtrails.



More nonsense.
at mark 2:50 he say's "It's chemtrails, there are different kinds of chemtrails as you know. We can see how the wind travels, kind of if you took a picture of a planes contrail."
 
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Brother, I understand your doubt. Not all of these situations are clear. I do however take offense to being called "crazy" and a "nut-job". If you could refrain from that I'd appreciate it.
 
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The HAARP Project (High-frequency Active Auroral Research) also has alot to do with the wacky weather we've been getting the last few years. All the tsunami's, earthquakes, floods, etc. HAARP is a real entity, and is based in Alaska. Only in the last couple of years has the US government finally admitted to it's existence.
Oh, please? Do you really belief this guff? Tsunamis, earthquakes, floods etc. are the result of living in a fallen world. Creation is crumbling apart because it wasn't made to last. Some of these could be aftereffects of Noah's Flood (like the Ring of Fire fault-line etc.)
 
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Oh, please? Do you really belief this guff? Tsunamis, earthquakes, floods etc. are the result of living in a fallen world. Creation is crumbling apart because it wasn't made to last. Some of these could be aftereffects of Noah's Flood (like the Ring of Fire fault-line etc.)
I think it works both ways bro. Sure, God is increasing disasters, but how hard would it really be to manipulate the weather? or to send an ELF wave toward a fault that was ready to give? If you could form a high pressure zone, you could keep moisture out, if you could do that in one place then you could do it in another. In theory we could funnel moisture to wherever we want. It's not really that complicated. The theory behind the metals being sprayed is that they react to the frequency waves HAARP is emitting. Whether heating up the atmosphere in that particular area or whatever the science has become it's not as far fetched as people would have you believe. Why would the government want to manipulate the weather and cause storms and destruction? that is simple and of course governments have thought of this before. "Deniability"
 
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LOL. I'm not calling YOU anything. I'm calling the people who invent wild fictional conspiracies and completely immerse themselves in them to the nth degree and allow them to control their very lives. I've met people whose entire life revolves around hundreds and hundreds of conspiracy theories that not a single one is actually true. Some of them have mental problems to be truthful and were under the supervision of a psychiatrist.

You're not one of them. You, like many reasonable people, have questions and want answers. That's not nutjob. That's a sign of intelligence. I've never met an intelligent person in my life who did not have a measure of curiosity.

I respect you, your intelligence, and your character.

However, I do NOT respect simple minded people whose life revolves around and is totally immersed in wild conspiracy theories. So no, I'll not stop calling them nutjobs because that's what they've chosen to BE.

I have zero problem with curious people that want answers and have questions. That's entirely within the scope of normalcy. I'm that way myself.

My position is that there's plenty of actual conspiracies involving money and power in the real world. We don't have to go after aliens, Elvis, and ridiculous government "plots" that mistake the vaporous contrails left by commercial jets flying through cold air pockets as depopulation harmful chemical/biological agent/energy poison projects. Obviously, the U.S. government isn't interested in poisoning all it's taxpayers... lol.

Examples of real conspiracies that turned out to be true were the mafia, the September Surprise, MK-Ultra, COINTELPRO, the BCCI Scandal, etc... etc... etc...

There are many actual conspiracies in the world and many conspiracy theories that have turned out to be true. Certainly I understand carefully qualifying those which may have truth to them such as 911 (which I do NOT believe was our own government blowing up the world trade towers by the way); however, why spend our time on the fabricated ridiculous past a certain point?

People who do so, risk being called "nutjobs" and rightfully so imo... lol. But if you're not one of them, then don't appropriate names not intended for you.

Alternatively, you can hunt us down and beat our a**e* in when we use those name because you certainly have the MA skills to do so... lol. I just hope if you ever do corner me, my vehicle is GTA 6 and I can get away... lol.


Brother, I understand your doubt. Not all of these situations are clear. I do however take offense to being called "crazy" and a "nut-job". If you could refrain from that I'd appreciate it.
 

blue_ladybug

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LOL. I'm not calling YOU anything. I'm calling the people who invent wild fictional conspiracies and completely immerse themselves in them to the nth degree and allow them to control their very lives. I've met people whose entire life revolves around hundreds and hundreds of conspiracy theories that not a single one is actually true. Some of them have mental problems to be truthful and were under the supervision of a psychiatrist.

You're not one of them. You, like many reasonable people, have questions and want answers. That's not nutjob. That's a sign of intelligence. I've never met an intelligent person in my life who did not have a measure of curiosity.

I respect you, your intelligence, and your character.

However, I do NOT respect simple minded people whose life revolves around and is totally immersed in wild conspiracy theories. So no, I'll not stop calling them nutjobs because that's what they've chosen to BE.

I have zero problem with curious people that want answers and have questions. That's entirely within the scope of normalcy. I'm that way myself.

My position is that there's plenty of actual conspiracies involving money and power in the real world. We don't have to go after aliens, Elvis, and ridiculous government "plots" that mistake the vaporous contrails left by commercial jets flying through cold air pockets as depopulation harmful chemical/biological agent/energy poison projects. Obviously, the U.S. government isn't interested in poisoning all it's taxpayers... lol.

Examples of real conspiracies that turned out to be true were the mafia, the September Surprise, MK-Ultra, COINTELPRO, the BCCI Scandal, etc... etc... etc...

There are many actual conspiracies in the world and many conspiracy theories that have turned out to be true. Certainly I understand carefully qualifying those which may have truth to them such as 911 (which I do NOT believe was our own government blowing up the world trade towers by the way); however, why spend our time on the fabricated ridiculous past a certain point?

People who do so, risk being called "nutjobs" and rightfully so imo... lol. But if you're not one of them, then don't appropriate names not intended for you.

Alternatively, you can hunt us down and beat our a**e* in when we use those name because you certainly have the MA skills to do so... lol. I just hope if you ever do corner me, my vehicle is GTA 6 and I can get away... lol.

But yet to this very day, there are people out there who say that neither the Mafia nor MK-Ultra is real. I do not believe in ALL the conspiracies, only a couple of them really. I do NOT believe in reptilian beings, OR aliens, even though Area 51 does exist. I do NOT see how Sandy Hook could have been a hoax, and I don't know enough about it to debate it, plus it's a very touchy subject on here so I won't even think of debating it. You may not believe that the govt was behind 9/11, but you do need to at least admit there IS a cover-up on it. Do I research on different conspiracies? Yes, but not all of them, and it certainly does NOT consume every waking moment of my life..however I am curious as to why most conspiracies seem to almost always lead back to the government and all it's groups. Am I a conspiracy nutjob? NOPE, not by any means!! :) A TRUE conspiracy nutjob stays awake all day and all night researching and gathering "evidence". I do NOT do that. lol


 
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AgeofKnowledge

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99% of it is in humor, and NONE of it is directed toward you, but sometimes people get upset anyways.

The problem is I find some names so hilarious, that I tend to weave them in when arguing with people online though I am careful to completely refrain from the practice in real world interpersonal interactions as obviously that can rapidly escalate to real world conflicts which God would never condone and the expensive subsequent legal (and medical) problems which naturally follow conflict in the real world are quite undesirable (win, lose, or draw)... meaning, I NEVER use humor like that offline with anyone.

And, believe it or not, when people do it to me in Internet forums in a humorous way; I'm laughing too. I've probably dumped three maybe four soft drinks because of the stuff Nautilus calls me, for example, since coming here. But nobody likes to be called stupid right online or offline?

So, I admit your way is best and has the most integrity (be the same on and offline). But I've always been a roustabout in the 19th century sense, with a sense of humor. I've lived all over, traveled the world as a sailor, and met about every type of character there is to meet and it comes out online sometimes. But it can be offensive, and I have to remember to slow my roll with respect to that. Peace.


I love you AoK you're a funny guy! :)
 
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I accept the rebuke. I'll cease and desist with the "funny" names and just argue for or against various conspiracy theories and their aspects.

But yet to this very day, there are people out there who say that neither the Mafia nor MK-Ultra is real. I do not believe in ALL the conspiracies, only a couple of them really. I do NOT believe in reptilian beings, OR aliens, even though Area 51 does exist. I do NOT see how Sandy Hook could have been a hoax, and I don't know enough about it to debate it, plus it's a very touchy subject on here so I won't even think of debating it. You may not believe that the govt was behind 9/11, but you do need to at least admit there IS a cover-up on it. Do I research on different conspiracies? Yes, but not all of them, and it certainly does NOT consume every waking moment of my life..however I am curious as to why most conspiracies seem to almost always lead back to the government and all it's groups. Am I a conspiracy nutjob? NOPE, not by any means!! :) A TRUE conspiracy nutjob stays awake all day and all night researching and gathering "evidence". I do NOT do that. lol
 
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The least likely [note that I've omitted the word "crazy" here for the benefit of those in the forum that ascribe to HAARP conspiracy theories]conspiracy theory I've heard to date about HAARP was Project Blue Beam in which it was alleged that NASA was attempting to use HAARP to implement a New Age religion with the Antichrist at its head to launch a New World Order.

HAARP is currently being dismantled (despite a letter-writing campaign from scientists organized by the UAF Geophysical Institute to prevent an irreversible demolition of HAARP). The Air Force has been picking the plant apart piece by piece, and critical research instruments already have been taken off site and packed for disposal.

University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) Professor Chris Fallen, KL3WX, who has conducted research at HAARP, told ARRL that the Air Force has already rendered HAARP reversibly inoperable through the removal or relocation of critical diagnostic instruments, instrument shelters, office furniture, and even tubes for the multiple transmitters.

[video=youtube_share;j3-c1dhQ8A0]http://youtu.be/j3-c1dhQ8A0[/video]

Secretary of the Air Force Deborah Lee James told Murkowski that the Air Force “will proceed with removal of government property not essential to operations and will seek to reduce maintenance costs through additional storage of equipment and winterization.”

A variety of experiments, such as HAARP (which stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program), involve high power radio transmitters to modify the properties of the ionosphere. These investigations focus on studying the properties and behavior of ionospheric plasma, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and military purposes. HAARP was started in 1993 as a proposed twenty-year experiment, and is currently active near Gakona, Alaska.

^ Though that sounds really ominous, the scientific consensus is that the degree of inosphere control possible through HAARP is akin to controlling the Pacific Ocean by tossing a rock into it.

Honestly, the Russian Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility is FAR more powerful and capable of radiating about 190 MW, effective radiated power (ERP) on short waves but that's a handful of rocks. None of these systems can modify the weather, disable satellites, exert mind control over people, etc...

The purpose of these systems was to gain a better understanding the interaction of radio waves with the ionospheric plasma, the local consequences of heating in the ionosphere, and studies of nonlinear plasma physics processes.
 
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I believe that science is able to manipulate the weather, but I believed that they are able to create clouds, but they aren't knowing what is can happen when putting a cloud where it not suppose to be and which causing all sorts of wacky weather conditions. When major catastrophe has happen, it causes some atmospheric changes, because of the environmental changes unexpectedly causing a domino effect of some sort to the atmosphere making strange weather conditions, like tornadoes, hurricanes, and so on. But I believe that they are keeping it a secret, but not to harm, but doing experiments to see what happens; but if something goes wrong, then no one will not know what has happened, so that they will not get the blame.



Throughout the history of mankind clouds have carried all sorts of negative connotations; they have been read pessimistically as a sign of misfortune or the premonition of a tempest or as simply as a blemish in the sky ruining an otherwise perfectly bright sunny day. But for Dutch artist Berndnaut Smilde, it seems that the clouds that have appeared in his world have a silver lining after all, making him the talk of the art world. Since 2010, Smilde has been skillfully creating clouds inside indoor spaces. Yes, indoors. As strange as it might sound, Smilde has mastered the art of controlling the weather conditions of a room by making clouds appear inside the oddest of spaces.Nimbus’ is an impressive project that explores the idea of a cloud being mysteriously created inside a space in which it does not belong and the various meanings that people project onto it. In a series of photographic prints that bring to mind the paintings of surreal artist René Magritte, Smilde playfully reinterprets the cartoon reference of a cloud as a the universal sign of bad luck by creating the unfathomable where walking into an empty space dominated by a massive cloud makes one ask whether it is real or just a weird hallucination.
How To Make Clouds Indoors: Nimbus By Berndnaut Smilde | Yatzer
 
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Collapse of Earth in 2014?? They better hurry up. What happened to 2012?

Also remember every skirmish or minor war is naturally the start of WW3 and the apocalypse. Keep believing! Don't let the bible or wisdom tell you otherwise! Listen only to Alex Jones! He will be your salvation!! :p
 
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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

I see, I hear and I understand, one thing I want to add in all of this that is going on.... is The LORD ALMIGHTY IS GREATER THAN ALL OF THIS AND SOME. We simply forget sometimes - that he is STILL IN CONTROL AND WILL REMOVE HIS PEOPLE WHEN THE TIME COMES TO DO SO. If its his will "We the Children of the Lord Almighty" will not be harmed nor will any of this hurt us in any way - nor our households. It's no different than when the Lord sent the plaque and all of the Children of the Lord were told to put lambs blood over their doorways. They were saved yet, others who were not, died.

Let us not forget the LORD ALMIGHTY GOD IS STILL IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE. Everyday, every hour, every minute, and every second and will always be!

I understand and I know why its important to share this, however, in sharing all of this, SHARE THE REAL TRUTH TO TOP IT ALL, THAT EVERYTHING WILL BOW TO THE LORD ALMIGHTY.

I am sorry, its my opinion to share here and remind folks that its not as much as what's going on in the world, but, who's in charge of it and still managing its day to day operations. This message would become viral if and I say "if" it was connected to the fact be ye reminded that the LORD ALMIGHTY GOD IS STILL IN CHARGE AND ALIVE AND WELL AND THAT ALL UNDER HIM UNDER HIS WINGS Psalms 91 will be sheltered and secured. In Jesus Name Amen!
 
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Collapse of Earth in 2014?? They better hurry up. What happened to 2012?

Also remember every skirmish or minor war is naturally the start of WW3 and the apocalypse. Keep believing! Don't let the bible or wisdom tell you otherwise! Listen only to Alex Jones! He will be your salvation!! :p
I don't recall anyone saying the end would come in 2014, I don't even recall anyone saying that geo-engineering would end the world. I do however know that there will be scoffers. So nice of you to join us.
 
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Oh, please? Do you really belief this guff? Tsunamis, earthquakes, floods etc. are the result of living in a fallen world. Creation is crumbling apart because it wasn't made to last. Some of these could be aftereffects of Noah's Flood (like the Ring of Fire fault-line etc.)
Remember, the Bible NEVER said HOW they would happen, only that they would.