What do you think of 9/11?

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What do my US friends think of 9/11/2001?

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Bangoo

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I want to know what my US friends think of 11 September attacks. It's late with three days and I'm sorry about this but I'm writing these words because it's only that I had some free time this day so I could watch over what happend in 2001. I'm not trying to ignite controversies and conspiracy theories but I do really want to know from my deep curiosity what is the major opinion among my american fellows about the World Trade Center Tower 1 and 2 and 7 crashes and of course the Pentagon attack.
 

blue_ladybug

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World Trade 7 and the Pentagon are where the money and paper trails were housed. A few days before 9/11 it was announced that a significant amount of money was mission, money in the trillions. It ain't no coincidence that those buildings were destroyed just a few days later.. JMO
 
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World Trade 7 and the Pentagon are where the money and paper trails were housed. A few days before 9/11 it was announced that a significant amount of money was mission, money in the trillions. It ain't no coincidence that those buildings were destroyed just a few days later.. JMO
Got all those terrorists in place, the pilots trained, the tickets all bought, all the timing of the people being on all three planes at the very same time, the dozens of bombs planted........ all within a couple of days of being surprised by that announcement.

Yeah, makes good sense to me.
 

Dude653

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Huglife

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i have several consprisicy theories about 9/11...
 
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Speaking of missing money, does everybody know they had gold bullion in the basement floors? It's missing also. Noo melted gold was found.
 

Huglife

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ive learned not to trust the media. everything is currupted today:(
 
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no where else in the history of the world has 2 planes struck 2 large buildings and made 3 large buildings collapse straight down in their own footprint.
 
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no where else in the history of the world has 2 planes struck 2 large buildings and made 3 large buildings collapse straight down in their own footprint.
Prior to 9/11, no where else in history had 2 planes struck 2 large buildings...
 
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Prior to 9/11, no where else in history had 2 planes struck 2 large buildings...
maybe not 2 & 2, but planes have struck large buildings many times in history my friend. none of them collapsed.
 
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Bangoo

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OK, I have done some studies about 9/11 and look what I think that it is the most probable hypothesis regarding 9/11 events.

First, the media and the USA authorities told people that there were 4 airplanes hijacked, specifically 4 757 Boenings. Two of them hit the World Trade Center, one crashed into the Pentagon and the last one collapased in a field due to the desperate intervention of the people inside the plane.

You know the official story so I want to make just some remarks. The most crucial thing about 9/11 events is this: if there is found strong evidence that suggest that the story about one plane it is likely impossible so it is fake then it is highly reasonable to question the authenticity of the rest of the story about the other three planes. Right? It makes sense, didn't it? For example, if the evidence shows that is highly improbable that a plane crashed into the Pentagon what good is then to believe that there were at all comercial airplanes that hit the towers? And this is what I've found most interesting: the vast majority of experts from the US army and journalists as well as people are highly skeptical about not just one but two airplanes, meaning the airplane that hit the Pentagon and the other one that crashed in Shanksville. So let's recap: if we find disturbing evidence that shows that at least one story from these events does not correspond to the reality then it would become hard to believe at all that the official story about the towers is true.

Now, let me present my conclusions after a private investigation.

The US authorities clearly do not play the transparency card and hide things from the ordinary people. They manipulated the video evidence from the Pentagon trying to make us to believe that it was a terrorist attack. They showed two usseles camera videos that were edited and had the wrong time date on them and were missing parts from them. It is highly improbable that a Boeing 757 could hit the Pentagon and leave in the walls just a small hole about 4-5 m. How could such a plane fit into this hole? There were no debris left from the crashed airplane but they told us that the huge fire vaporized them. How then were they able to identify the dead bodies using their DNA? Moreover, how could such a stupid pilot to fly such a plane? Were were the US airplanes to intercept the terrorist? And how could this stupid pilot turn around the airplane in mid air at such a speed?

The vast majority of people are skeptical about the Shanksville crash. Everybody said that it was just a hole in the ground and that there were no debris and human bodies left there. People that were there said that they didn't parts of the plane nor blood and human remains. Even if a military plane crashed the comercial unto the ground there must have been debris scattered all over the place. This story is the most foggy from the all three.


About the twin towers I could talk on and on and on but I will make just some remarks.
The experts from the military and from engineering as well ordinary people that were involved in the events and of course the journalists, all agree that these buildings could not collapsed due to the huge fire. Never in history it was reported that an ordinary fire could melt the steel and collapse three skyscrapers at free fall speed. The evidence is that there were isolated fires in the buildings as reported by the fireme and that people heard and were hit by explosions, maybe bombs maybe detonators. So many people reported explosions and the videos show actual evidence about this. It was found molten steel left in the debris and the experts could identify correctly military thermite that was used. It's quite strange that all three buildings collapsed at free fall speed. Of course there are many other things to say but I want to close this and dragg the conclusions.

Fifteen years have passed since then and yet there is no shred of evidence that there is a connection between Osama and the twin towers. Quite interesting, isn't it? The USA government gave no other choice: surrender and be conquered. With what authority did they invaded Afghanistand and Iraq? With the authority of the weapons. They smashed to the ground two independent free countries and brought the sword of war into them destroying people lives for good taking every wealth that these countries possessed. Quite nice, insn't it?

In the end there is a question left: if it really was an inside job what happend to the passangers? This question haunts me but there is a plausible explanation for this. The easy answer is this: i don't know, maybe these planes rest into the Pacific Ocean. No. There is a reasonable explanation. Who told us that there were 4 airplanes hijacked? The US government and the media. What did people saw? Nothing. In one case, no one could see the first plane hitting the tower. It was a surprise and no one could see the plane. All we have is just a lucky recording from a french journalist that shows interesting fact about the crashing. Most people said about the second plane that it didn't look like a comercial plane and they could not see any logo and windows etcetera. We should have had some debris left on the ground due to the impact but all it was found it was just a strange engine. And there is also the Pentagon and the Shanksville crashing. What's interesting though is that there was no arabic name on the passenger list and there are "terrorists" still alive in Africa and Middle Eastern.

To sum up, I for one think that one theory presented by some american experts is the most plausible. There were no comercial planes involved in. I saw some evidence presented that it showed that before the impact of these two engines there were some explosions visible just quite before the planes hit that towers. We're not sure what it was, some say that these planes had rockets underneath them but that it is quite unlikely if it was the case that these were comercial planes. It could be synchronized bomb, why not? And why not a rocket if these were military planes? I don't know what to say but to believe that the authorities were incompetents it's hard but why not given the fact there were no interceptors in the sky? How could someone loose 4 planes in a day? I say that it's easier to use drone-aircrafts into the tower than to kill inocent people. It's easier to fake some phone calls and a passanger list and some stories about these people than to kill these people and held them in CIA prison. That's sound to me like SciFy and it's more plausible that there were military planes that hit the buildings afterwich there was actual demolition. But the questions remains open. This bothers me and I honestly know what to say about the passangers.

No way, you would say. Why not? From 15.000 people just about 2.000 showed up at work that day. Interesting, isn't it? What are the results of 9/11? The Patriot Act and all the others, didn't it? More military power, more control, body scaners and listened phone calls etc. In the light of US interests why is so hard to believe that to further some agenda there must have been a slaughter of people?
 
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Bangoo

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When you talk about a conspiracy theory you talk about a theory of conspiracy. It's just a theory. However, when you bring up evidence to support your theory this is not a theory anymore but a possibility. Don't you agree? It think that this is also the case with World Trade Center as it was with Watergate ....
 

Tommy379

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The 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by muslims. This attack was planned by muslims for a good long while before it was launched.

Steel does melt in fire, ask any foundry worker in Pittsburgh. Furthermore, the steel would not have to get hot enough to melt, it would merely need to get hot enough to lose its temper. The World Trade Center buildings were not made of space age polymers and lightweight alloys, they were made of steel, concrete, and stone. At their weight when they collapsed, it did in fact weaken the foundation of WTC 7.

When a 757 is traveling at nearly 600 mph full of jet fuel and nose dives into the ground, it will leave a hole and not much else. Aluminum and magnesium the aircraft are made of burns and turns to ash at low temperatures compared to other metals.

A plane.did hit the Pentagon. Not only was it captured on video surveillance, many eyewitnesses driving along 395 saw it. I laid eyes myself on the lamp post on the bridge that were knocked over. As for the date/time stamps being incorrect on the surveillance video, I am a law enforcement officer and I have never recovered video for evidence that did have the correct date/time stamp. It's a fact of life. No one makes sure the time is set on the recorders. Not a bank, quickie mart, or even a police station has the correct time set on their recorders. People are careless and lazy. No big conspiracy there.

Muslims attacked us, no one else. Not the government or the new world order globalist. Muslims hate us. They hate Jews, they hate Christians. Muslims are evil. Muslims are nothing but animals.
 
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9/11 was cause by the corrupt US government. Dont believe the lies the mainstream media tells you.
 
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Bangoo

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My friend,

I don't bite anything with these all conspiracy theories and I am not a conspirator. However, I do want to point you a few things regarding what you say:

1. The investigation showed that the hijackers were unskilled in flying those planes.
2. The imoral behaviour of the hijackers prior to the attack was in opposition with their radical islamic belief so I wonder if they were really muslim believers.
3. OK, the planes were hijacked. How then is possible to make someone guilty that has nothing to do with the attack? There are perplexed muslims that had learned they were supposed to be terrorists in the 9/11 events and they had nothing to do with these events. Moreover, how it is possible that one passport survive to the explosion of the plane and the collapsing of the building and fly safely undamaged into the streets? Is that believeble?
4.Of course the steel melts but I assure you it doesn't melts in any ordinary fire be it even kerosene. If it would be true the fuel would be consumed once with the explosion itself and not couldn't maintain the fire. You're right, it melts in a foundry. Also, if I may ask, two planes crashed into the towers and collapsed not one but three buildings. Do you see how small damage was done at the Pentagon? Why is that? There are hundreds of buildings that were on fire and neither of them collapsed. OK, let's say that the steel melted. This does not explain how it is possible that a skyscraper falls down in just 10 seconds! Galileo's law states an object thrown to the ground from air it would reach the destination in aproximately 9 point something seconds. Weird. And one more thing. The planes that hit the towers damaged the internal structure foor good but at the Pentagon the plane left a 4-5 hole in the wall...
5.This does not explain the fact that there were secondary explosions at WTC. I remember specifically one picture of CNN that showed some explosion taking place down bellow the towers. I've never seen it again. Strange mass-media behaviour.
6.Larry Silversteistein admitted that they had to decide to pull WTC 7. My friend, you don't pull a building down in 8 hours so smoothly and perfect. If that it is the case with WTC 7, what shall we think about the others? How it is possible that so many people knew that this building was about to collapse? Remember the BBC blunder?
7.Do you remember when the russians took down a plane with a missile in Ukraine? Have you seen the damage done there? There were hundreds of pieces of debris scattered all over the place. Should I mention mention you also about the Smolensk crash when an entire government smashed with the plane to the ground? Yes, it would be fire, but really only a hole? Why isn't this case also with the other planes in the history? I mean when a plane just crashes we should just a hole in the ground, isn't it?
8.Yes, they showed us camera footage but it was corrupted. I swear I can't see a plane in that video! All I can see is just a small white line and immediately an explosion. You know they say that in that area were about 80 cameras and they showed us just the worst pictures captured at that moment. Why can't they simply show something for the sake of the family's victims? Did you saw the pictures prior to the moment whe the roof collapsed at Pentagon? Have you ever saw there a plane and the debris? If it would have been a 757 we should have had a huge fire engulfing the Pentagon not to mention that the soil woud have become usseles and they should have replaced it because of the contamination. If I would show up at the Pentagon and try to sneak around they would probably shoot me down. Come on, man, a plane, not a man! You want to say that we ransecked the mountains looking after the talibans camps and hunged Hussein and were not able to defend the most secure building in our nation? How it is possible to loose 4 planes and do nothing? It's "funny", if russians knew during the Cold War what the terrorists knew ...
8.I want to see evidence for having Osama bin Laden involved in the 9/11 events. We started a war based on a video footage. Ha! When WW1 began, it started because they shot down Franz Ferdinand, the austriand archduke ! Of course there were many other reasons besides this but it makes more sense, isn't it?
9.No, my friend, muslims are not animals. What happened with "love thy neighbor as yourself"? Of course, Islam is a religion of violence and war but Christianity surpasses way beyond that. Many muslims are just like christians, someone says "hey, I'm a christian" but in real life he's not at all. Many muslims are just like that. Others are radicals, even they don't know what they believe, so easy is their manipulation. Unfortunately, yes they hate us, they hate jews, they hate among themselves. But this is not an excuse for the fact we ignored the global protests of 10 millions of people and killed 1 million during a cold, bloody war. It's that a price to pay for the people that died on 9/11? May God forgive us!

Clossing bottom: I wish it would have been a dream but it isn't. I don't know if it was military plane or airliners. I don't know if there were terrorist at all. All I must believe is what they tell me to believe. I hope some day the truth will be revealed and those responsible for that will be punished. Until then, I rember our ex-president, G.W. Bush who lied on TV saying that he saw at TV the first plane hitting the tower during a classwork. I don't have an ultimate explanation for what it happened, but I can tell you that something about this is very very rotten.
 

blue_ladybug

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There were several eyewitnesses on the ground who said that the 2nd plane was NOT a commercial airliner, but that it WAS a military plane. One even said the plane was gray or black.. Those military planes can very easily be painted to look like a commercial airliner.. just sayin.
 

Fenner

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I say don't waste your time on conspiracy theories.
 

Huglife

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I say don't waste your time on conspiracy theories.
Do you honestly want huglife to you every conspiracy theory I've ever heard? I am a conspirasist, and while some are just wacky theories, some are completely true and show that we need to wake up
 

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The Lord is a warrior ( Exodus 15:3 and Isaiah 42:13) Another words NEVER!!!! EVER mistake my kindness for weakness! That is the mindset of a believer! I lost three fine people on 9-11 and of the 200 which jumped from windows at a speed of 150 miles per hour from some 1200 to 1300 feet, none passed out until they hit the ground.

I do not wish for our Country to wait to defend, I want my Country to go on the attack,so the enemy must defend! Lay waste to the enemy.You cannot reason or bargin with evil! ( Proverbs 8:13) You must destroy evil! The Lord is love,and full of grace and compassion, the Lord is also fair and just!( Col 3:25) No more words,but rather DEEDS!( James 1:22)