What happen to the Christians of the United States

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JustinDVW

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My relative says it all stated in the 1960's, first with every church in america not teaching the words of god and instead making entire Sunday's about nothing but money talk. this has got to stop and also with teachers saying that God only exists in their church only. It is ok to give a church money in order for them to operate successfully but not to make a lap of luxury out of God. In my opinion. what do you all think?

As I said before I run a community Facebook page for since 2015 and I have noticed that I have reached out to vary few Americans, but lots of feedback and attention from the middle east in which is also good. But where are the Americans and why are they so hard to reach? I pay for my ads and my american campaigns barely make an audience but everywhere else I somehow am reaching far more people.

Here is my debate about what is going on in america Obama has ripped my country apart. and what really makes me angry is I was banned from 2 american chat rooms without warning and without reason. That is what compelled me to start my Christian page.
 
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Firstly it is a HUGE judgment to state that 'every church in America' is not teaching the word of God, since the 60s. Has your relative been to every church? And what qualifies your relative to be a self appointed judge and jury over every church?

Well I read your post about not being able to edit your posts. You were quick to assume, get angry and threaten to leave the site because you believed you were being singled out, though you had no reason to believe this. You did not ask if this was normal for everyone but got defensive and angry. It's not hard to see why you got banned from other sites.
 
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JustinDVW

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I am sorry I lashed out I am just a little paranoid please forgive me. I have had enemies in my past that are real though. I have been harassed by random hackers for so many years that I am always on the defense. when something is strange on my computer screen

and the site I was banned for no reason and no warning really happened. It was on Christian forums.com I only get emails from them but I cannot log in to their site it says I am still banned and I have been for 2 years and I made no bad remark or word. Someone even gave me a love post reaction and then I was banned ever since.. It could have been my chosen user name I called myself Justin Anonymous. but 2 years ago I didn't know that would get me perm banned for choosing a name that I thought was not offensive

I have protection and my computer monitored it got so bad years ago and I never know when my enemies will strike at me because they strike my computer from the shadows and never show their faces to me. I have to gain a persons trust before I am comfortable in am online relationship now.

not too long ago my 2 household PC lost their sound drivers mine twice. My guess it was them again, who else would strange thing is they seem to know me but I don't know them.
 
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JustinDVW

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[FONT=&quot](this is what I think got me permintly banned I saved this post from 2 years and boosted not to long ago on my page

My personal Opinion)
I need to get this off my chest.June 2015[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]first all I am a 27 year old man with mental issues, the only real problem I have with the bible is that it is not complete yet, It includes a majority of gods teaching's but a lot is missing in the modern day readers eye. I am not saying that the bible is wrong, I am only saying, what god has told me throughout my entire life, something is missing in there, and god told me to finish part of what was started so long ago,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]First, and foremost is the teaching that tells us the Jesus died for all sins (including sins we did on purpose) and never for the sins of us being born on Earth in the first place. Now what God has instructed me to do, is to write this short work that further explains the bibles teachings deeper than ever before and I will only share that with you if you ask. anyway back to the explaining. God told me to tell modern Christians it is not ok to sin and then think you are automatically forgiven each time with no consequences whatsoever.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jesus will forgive, your purposely acted sins for a while, and let you in Heaven just fine, but what is not usually mentioned is that God told me, that if you are a repeated and purposely offender, of gods law, and ask forgiveness you may receive what parents gave there children back in the 20th century and before common. before reaching the gates of heaven upon your Universal death in which could happen at any time in your life. The bible calls this in terms called chastising, on his angels of disobedience. Now I don't believe that Jesus came all the way from Heaven to this low Earth to give us no punishment for user directed sins,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]that we thought we could escape justice, and knew we were wrong before we done them in the first place. and kept asking Jesus I knew I should have not cheated on my 3rd wife please forgive me, I am so sorry again and again. First of all god is a parent to us, another thing I don't believe in is that some people are sons and daughters of the devil, I even heard a someone say the devil is not a maker before in my life. and it was from a non Christian. I been a Christian all my life. since 9 years old when I read my first children's bible.
The main problem I find is that the bible says you shall be forgiven upon prayer and not if you died and could not find Jesus in time.[/FONT]
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Problem, in modern society, people are being born today without ever learning about Jesus especially with atheist parents, hushing all of their children every time they say something godly, If I was one of those children just being born on Earth not knowing that I could go to hell when I grow up no matter what. Now do you really think Jesus would let a man or women who never got a chance to seek god and died never being a mass murder, and just going to hell for being human because of Adam and Eve's sins?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Father made each and everything on Earth special in his eye and died a horrible death for our sins and we Christians are still talking about 99.9% of all living humans will burn forever and not even be warned first? by a loving God and his son Jesus who paid a terrible price for us to seek freedom from evil? Sorry but believing that is what I think the devil wants us to believe to stop us from loving our heavenly father. If I was the devil and hated God and his creations that is what I would do. No something in the bible is missing gods love needs to be expressed through all of us.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I seen Hell I know for a fact that it is real but god told me all my life only the dirtiest sickest meanest humans will fit the bill for eternal hell fire and torment. the rest of the baddies will be punished in different ways that will still be
inconvenient for all of chronic sinners.
I am a profit that no one believes I have seen a visions that this world may not be saved and I keep on trying to save what good is still left in it but always end up failing to hold a stand in truth. I care about everyone in the world, and try to share with others.[/FONT]
 
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JustinDVW

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This post came off of my page Modern Christian Believers Facebook page. I read rule #17 and that is why I am telling you this but yet i am not sure if it is breaking rule #15 but I read the rules carfully and don't want to get in trouble with the law
 
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Adstar

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JustinDVW said:
My relative says it all stated in the 1960's, first with every church in america not teaching the words of god and instead making entire Sunday's about nothing but money talk. this has got to stop and also with teachers saying that God only exists in their church only. It is ok to give a church money in order for them to operate successfully but not to make a lap of luxury out of God. In my opinion. what do you all think?

As I said before I run a community Facebook page for since 2015 and I have noticed that I have reached out to vary few Americans, but lots of feedback and attention from the middle east in which is also good. But where are the Americans and why are they so hard to reach? I pay for my ads and my american campaigns barely make an audience but everywhere else I somehow am reaching far more people.

Here is my debate about what is going on in america Obama has ripped my country apart. and what really makes me angry is I was banned from 2 american chat rooms without warning and without reason. That is what compelled me to start my Christian page.
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You say obama ripped your country apart.. Yet you have an american flag identifying you as an american ? So i am confused about this.. Are you an american citizen ?
 
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Ugly

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Adstar said:
You say obama ripped your country apart.. Yet you have an american flag identifying you as an american ? So i am confused about this.. Are you an american citizen ?
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Actually flags represent location, not heritage, unless that has changed.
 
SCHISM

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Many Christians recognize that some preachers are in it for the money. That is not to say that it is in every church or that anyone in those churches will be held accountable for the works of their preachers.

It is a matter of heart and spirit.

As for habitual sinners, I believe humans were told to forgive 70x7 times. Now try to imagine how much more the Spirit of God will forgive.

If you find yourself as a habitual sinner, do not stop asking for forgiveness. It is your ego which lies to you, telling you that you have sinned too many times to receive God's forgiveness.

Have faith. Eventually when you come to that habitual sin, the voice of the Holy Spirit will be so loud, reminding you that it is a sin, that you will indeed repent of it.

Keep the faith. God bless.
 
posthuman

posthuman

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JustinDVW said:
My relative says it all stated in the 1960's, first with every church in america not teaching the words of god and instead making entire Sunday's about nothing but money talk.
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i rather think it started earlier, with such men as Charles Finney, at the advent of modern 'revivalism' during what's called the 'second great awakening' in the later 1800's.

when churches started making 'altar calls' and exchanging the Biblical concepts of faith, belief, unity with and devotion to Christ with such things as 'making a decision for Christ' or 'asking Him into your life' etc.

evangelism at this point became a numbers game -- adding up totals of 'converted' by the number of people who raised their hands or walked up to the front after an emotionally-driven, charismatic speaker whipped a crowd into a frenzy of guilt, fear and urgent shame. people who respond to such calls are declared "saved" and then left in the dust of the travelling revival salesman.

we stopped making disciples. we stopped shepherding souls. we started padding numbers and stuffing ballots, and things kind of steamrolled on toward the things you're talking about over 150 years later, which weren't new then, and weren't even new in the 1800's, or in the 800's.
 
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oldethennew

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POST,

not always, but MOSTLY, your 'God-Given-Gifts' amaze us both...:):cool:
 
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imfinallyfree

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I think that God's advice has been so twisted that what is being preached is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what He wants and this goes back to the beginning of Christianity so thinking that it is the US is way limited thinking.

It's been proposed that Christianity in it's core belief of forgiveness is satanic and I believe it.

I am a born Christian but since I became a adult I never believed that nonsense that is passed from generation to generation about no accountability for your actions,which is what seemingly every Christian believes,that all that we have to do is repent afterwards and everything is fine.

If that is true then why is the world the way that it is now?

Christianity is basically a teaching of failure and no accountability for that failure which leads people to believe that they are going to Heaven no matter what.
 
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